I lost my password for account "bitcoinspender" at mybitcoin. If there is no way for me to recover my password/account can you please donate my bitcoins to the bitcoin police.
Thanks,
Bitcoin Spender
Topic: MYBITCOIN.COM MOVES 50213.22337BTC IN PUBLIC AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH (Read 4097 times)
August 09, 2011, 08:38:00 AM
August 09, 2011, 03:26:18 AM
i still cant believe people sent thousands of dollars worth of assets to a website registered to a PO box in the carribbean with an alias name as the CEO and no other papertrail information based on a simple domain registry
+1
PD: I didn't know that a Bitcoin Police would exist.
August 09, 2011, 03:20:19 AM
i still cant believe people sent thousands of dollars worth of assets to a website registered to a PO box in the carribbean with an alias name as the CEO and no other papertrail information based on a simple domain registry
But did they? On a case by case basis?
Sure, okay, their television evangelist(s) televised a 25000 BTC account being on there, but what were they actually risking? They, afterall, knew the guy or the operation well enough to tellyshop or app-mockup or scrape together 25000 BTC for promotional purposes on behalf of the guy or operation. Can we wonder what they hoped to gain by doing that?
But normal people?
It might be interesting to divide the victims into those who follow the show and those who never even heard of the people involved in that whole public relations blitz and find the mean of the deposits of each of those categories of victim.
It is blatantly obvious that the more people who are risking a few bitcoins the more bitcoins are at risk therefore the more risk each person's coins are at due to the whole haul of the lot of them being more attractive a pile of loot so the less coins each individual should and hopefully would put at risk, isn't it? Unless some cut is being used to beef up security, which if it truly was a free service you have to wonder where in their business model the security budget is going to come from?
-MarkM-
August 09, 2011, 02:57:36 AM
i still cant believe people sent thousands of dollars worth of assets to a website registered to a PO box in the carribbean with an alias name as the CEO and no other papertrail information based on a simple domain registry
August 09, 2011, 02:42:44 AM
pastebin of the IRC logs or it didn't happen.
(keeping with the meme theme)
(keeping with the meme theme)
August 09, 2011, 01:47:59 AM
I'm not saying this necessarily bad, but "Tom" is probably a quite young kid/teen rather than a team of professionals or "we's".
He is referencing juvenile internet memes in some of those transfers (maybe some clever members will notice which ones).
Again, that's not a telltale 'bad' sign, but it gives you a hint.
He is referencing juvenile internet memes in some of those transfers (maybe some clever members will notice which ones).
Again, that's not a telltale 'bad' sign, but it gives you a hint.
hum, imho he s more a group of hackers than a single teenager . . .
August 08, 2011, 10:49:42 PM
Although I haven't lost any coins in the mybitcoin incident... I really think the work you're doing for the bitcoin community is great.
Thanks
August 08, 2011, 09:14:53 PM
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MYBITCOIN.COM MOVES 50213.22337BTC IN PUBLIC AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH
Greetings Bitcoin Community,
At 11:36am (GMT+10) a person using the nick "williams_tom" logged into the #bitcoin-police IRC channel on Freenode claiming to be the proprietor of the MyBitcoin.com website.
The user was determined to be utilizing the same I.P address as the mybitcoin server (83.149.112.133) and, upon request was able to prove their current control of the server by signing and placing a file on the server at our request
[http://mybitcoin.com/popo.txt]
Subsequent communications resulted in the public transacting of Bitcoin to the value of 50213.22337BTC in publicly visible and pre-announced transactions as a gesture of good faith and control over mybitcoin funds by "williams_tom".
The transactions as announced by the user are:
10101.01BTC moved to wallet 1GbESqXVYbmUfcrQD27jYkBQpmvunABkVR in TXN
90a34c36be0988ca23af8413b5bac49881b35631d9ffc36410822fc916d1a1b8
11997.21BTC moved to wallet 1B1aYCsWfYzd5xeeAedEf66mWEDc6V3p9T in TXN
4418fb858d26336e52765e0c8d5c00956ac5b417fb0128c8c1f9b726213445e6
11337.11337BTC moved to wallet 1NABj3fa6Ay3ohqbnztoDFR8spiA2j2kKS in TXN
8eb157b58929cb664fe843e8f7d243ff893bed4571522ba51e94dc9cc0e11ce9
9000.11BTC moved to wallet 1AcGjPk41bQ5kGR8XDdJqnpXxQ6GNXiJM2 in TXN a8908fc7bae60999e685279f2728ed9d3812d5be791b8735efa1f1c7693d274a
5555.55BTC moved to wallet 1FNtcee1zmZ7TGxP1gS3ZY5tSjaAUwTp3H in TXN 1ed74aa309ccc279602e7a74bd9d34d0167b018a0777ac93da56356d77e7bdfc
Totalling 50213.22337BTC.
Although the absolute identity of the user cannot be verified, this communication shows that the MyBitcoin.com server is still under control by humans and that those humans seem to be operating in good faith to repay (in part or full) the funds involved in the mybitcoin.com incident.
The Bitcoin Police wish to thank "williams_tom" for his demonstration of good faith and ongoing cooperation and communication with regards to this incident and urge the bitcoin community to exercise restraint, respect and patience in forward dealings with Mr Williams and MyBitcoin.com
All details of our investigations into this incident are available publicly at http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/
Kind Regards
MrTiggr
Founder -Bitcoin Police
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Hash: SHA1
MYBITCOIN.COM MOVES 50213.22337BTC IN PUBLIC AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH
Greetings Bitcoin Community,
At 11:36am (GMT+10) a person using the nick "williams_tom" logged into the #bitcoin-police IRC channel on Freenode claiming to be the proprietor of the MyBitcoin.com website.
The user was determined to be utilizing the same I.P address as the mybitcoin server (83.149.112.133) and, upon request was able to prove their current control of the server by signing and placing a file on the server at our request
[http://mybitcoin.com/popo.txt]
Subsequent communications resulted in the public transacting of Bitcoin to the value of 50213.22337BTC in publicly visible and pre-announced transactions as a gesture of good faith and control over mybitcoin funds by "williams_tom".
The transactions as announced by the user are:
10101.01BTC moved to wallet 1GbESqXVYbmUfcrQD27jYkBQpmvunABkVR in TXN
90a34c36be0988ca23af8413b5bac49881b35631d9ffc36410822fc916d1a1b8
11997.21BTC moved to wallet 1B1aYCsWfYzd5xeeAedEf66mWEDc6V3p9T in TXN
4418fb858d26336e52765e0c8d5c00956ac5b417fb0128c8c1f9b726213445e6
11337.11337BTC moved to wallet 1NABj3fa6Ay3ohqbnztoDFR8spiA2j2kKS in TXN
8eb157b58929cb664fe843e8f7d243ff893bed4571522ba51e94dc9cc0e11ce9
9000.11BTC moved to wallet 1AcGjPk41bQ5kGR8XDdJqnpXxQ6GNXiJM2 in TXN a8908fc7bae60999e685279f2728ed9d3812d5be791b8735efa1f1c7693d274a
5555.55BTC moved to wallet 1FNtcee1zmZ7TGxP1gS3ZY5tSjaAUwTp3H in TXN 1ed74aa309ccc279602e7a74bd9d34d0167b018a0777ac93da56356d77e7bdfc
Totalling 50213.22337BTC.
Although the absolute identity of the user cannot be verified, this communication shows that the MyBitcoin.com server is still under control by humans and that those humans seem to be operating in good faith to repay (in part or full) the funds involved in the mybitcoin.com incident.
The Bitcoin Police wish to thank "williams_tom" for his demonstration of good faith and ongoing cooperation and communication with regards to this incident and urge the bitcoin community to exercise restraint, respect and patience in forward dealings with Mr Williams and MyBitcoin.com
All details of our investigations into this incident are available publicly at http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/
Kind Regards
MrTiggr
Founder -Bitcoin Police
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Although I haven't lost any coins in the mybitcoin incident... I really think the work you're doing for the bitcoin community is great.
August 08, 2011, 07:30:18 PM
I'm not saying this necessarily bad, but "Tom" is probably a quite young kid/teen rather than a team of professionals or "we's".
He is referencing juvenile internet memes in some of those transfers (maybe some clever members will notice which ones).
Again, that's not a telltale 'bad' sign, but it gives you a hint.
He is referencing juvenile internet memes in some of those transfers (maybe some clever members will notice which ones).
Again, that's not a telltale 'bad' sign, but it gives you a hint.
Yeah I thought I saw 10101.01 = LOLOLOL, 9000.11 = OVER NINE THOUSAND and the oh so obvious 1337=l33t in those, but then again I'm so steeped in memes at this point that I'm beginning to see them in places where in fact they are not...
Also, without any kind of logs from the IRC chat, others in the room may have actually been requesting those amounts in which case it wouldn't be "Tom" at fault for the juvenile memes, but rather random members of the bitcoin community - thus making a statement about our community which I would absolutely believe
August 08, 2011, 07:24:49 PM
I'm not saying this necessarily bad, but "Tom" is probably a quite young kid/teen rather than a team of professionals or "we's".
He is referencing juvenile internet memes in some of those transfers (maybe some clever members will notice which ones).
Again, that's not a telltale 'bad' sign, but it gives you a hint.
He is referencing juvenile internet memes in some of those transfers (maybe some clever members will notice which ones).
Again, that's not a telltale 'bad' sign, but it gives you a hint.
August 08, 2011, 06:55:06 PM
MrTiggr,
Please don't lose sight of the fact that even if Tom Williams did not steal anything - a theft has occurred - and unless Tom Williams supplies ALL available evidence to law enforcement - he's effectively stonewalling a proper investigation and protecting the thief.
Please don't lose sight of the fact that even if Tom Williams did not steal anything - a theft has occurred - and unless Tom Williams supplies ALL available evidence to law enforcement - he's effectively stonewalling a proper investigation and protecting the thief.
August 08, 2011, 06:47:46 PM
Hey, good progress on the case!
August 08, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
did you guys make a tally of how much you collectively had in mybitcoin yet?
August 08, 2011, 01:22:08 PM
I filled the claim form and in the bitcoin address field I put the mybitcoin.com address I had. Only then I thought maybe that was not the right thing to do cause they had no way to transfer my funds then. I immediately tried to fill it again with a normal bitcoind address where the bitcoins can be transfered but it says the acount is now empty. What can I do ? They can't say the emptied the account from their account to their account. Grr- they should have made that field more descriptive ! 
Anybody here from mybitcoin.com that can help me please ?
EDIT: Grr- now I see it said above it mustn't be a mybitcoin addresss. But still they must have ways to get around mistakes like that !
Anybody here from mybitcoin.com that can help me please ?
EDIT: Grr- now I see it said above it mustn't be a mybitcoin addresss. But still they must have ways to get around mistakes like that !
August 08, 2011, 08:01:23 AM
Thank you for your leadership, Mr. Tiggr.
MrTiggr says thanks, as he doesn't have a forum account and i'm another one of the leaders we'll be using my account to communicate with the community.
Just on a side note, it wasn't only MrTiggr! The entire community helped out by providing us with info that became useful in the end.
August 08, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
Although I haven't verified the details, I want to say that yes I was in the channel while this was going on, and have no reason to doubt the above account.
August 08, 2011, 07:49:47 AM
50213.22337BTC IN PUBLIC AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH
The Mt. Gox strategy...
The Mt. Gox strategy...
Yes, but we now know they have control of some coins.
On another note, we have had 5 confirmed claims on IRC - if you've gotten yours please PM me.
August 08, 2011, 07:49:11 AM
We had about 10 people that are trusted on the forums witnessing the transactions, plus another hundred that were in the channel, these people include me, da2ce7, Bruce and other people I can't think of at the moment.
I personally have trust in you guys, I think the team is doing great. There is that real world worst case scenario though, and it shouldn't be easily forgotten. I mean, I have been shown new levels of how sad humans can be to each other thanks to Bitcoin, and most of it comes from programmers not the scammers lol. The part where this crack team is helping solve the MyBitcoin case can easily be one of the most memorable schemes ever. All it takes is in the end, to let Tom Williams somehow disappear, a fake hunt continues, the scammers win. I assure you 100% I do not believe this is in the case at all. August 08, 2011, 07:45:09 AM
This is only awesome if the users he did that for in good faith weren't in on it.
Nothing can be trusted lol
Nothing can be trusted lol
We had about 10 people that are trusted on the forums witnessing the transactions, plus another hundred that were in the channel, these people include me, da2ce7, Bruce and other people I can't think of at the moment. Ill try get some people to post here.
August 08, 2011, 07:43:28 AM
Thank you for your leadership, Mr. Tiggr.
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