Mycelium Wallet Promoting Scam Bookies 1xbit.com

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It should be possible since the wallet could be reproduced by Wallet Scrutiny[1]. The real question is who would bother maintain such fork?

It an be anyone who understands how coding works, if he is a regular user of Mycelium wallet that get's annoyed but this ads.
In my opinion there are other better open source alternatives for crypto wallets, and maybe that is the reason we didn't see any active Mycelium fork.
Original developers could also accept payment or donations that could remove all ads (with 1xbit in that package), but there is a general problem with app ads for smartphones.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 28, 2022, 01:03:59 PM

It's now clear they are doing massive promotion from 1xbet in the main stream media but in the online media they are promoting 1xbit, They do not care about the reputation since 1xbit is completely de-touched from 1xBet. It's obvious now 1xBet is legally operating with a license otherwise they could not promote in the mainstream media. The victims from 1xBit can use the evidence of connection and call out 1xBit.

Yes, they could. But a civil lawsuit of this nature instigated by a private party would be very expensive, and none of the scammed players are likely to pursue it. As a result, 1xBit can continue to scam their users for hundreds, even thousands, of dollars without fear, because they know they are practically above the law.

It's actually a tragicomic. For a company to proudly proclaim their "protected by law" status, one would think that at least a basic legally required information would be provided, such as contact information, incorporation name, legal jurisdiction, or anything of the sort that a business entity should have readily available. Yet, none of this has been provided by 1xBit. That fact alone is blatantly illegal.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 27, 2022, 01:26:17 PM

I am not sure this is totally correct,

Quote from: logfiles on July 27, 2022, 03:43:02 PM

You were actually right all those days.

Quote from: FatFork on July 28, 2022, 07:32:23 AM

I hope you meant that comment as sarcasm? Grin

It was not sarcasm. It's been a long time I am assuming. I can recall something I read or wrote but I was not sure that it was about two of these sites. Other day when I was checking their sites then I discovered total two different sites and that made me confused. 🤣

It's now clear they are doing massive promotion from 1xbet in the main stream media but in the online media they are promoting 1xbit, They do not care about the reputation since 1xbit is completely de-touched from 1xBet. It's obvious now 1xBet is legally operating with a license otherwise they could not promote in the mainstream media. The victims from 1xBit can use the evidence of connection and call out 1xBit.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 27, 2022, 09:18:29 AM

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

I hope you meant that comment as sarcasm? Grin

Although 1xBit and 1XBET are, obviously, different sites (on two different domains), both casinos are owned and operated by the same company. This has already been irrefutably proven on numerous occasions.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 27, 2022, 09:18:29 AM

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

You were actually right all those days. They are different sites but both casinos are connected, and there's a lot of evidence pointing to their connection though they have tried always way to hide the connection, but archives don't lie. I even tried to post a few connections, but I think you missed it.
Just research about 1xcorp. N.V. You will see a string of scammy sites just like 1xbit, 1xslots etc, and 1xbet is one of those sites.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 27, 2022, 11:46:59 AM

Dunno about you, but for me bitcointalk topics are very close to the top and no one who actually type "is 1xbit scam?" won't miss it. Problem is that people google that only after they've been scammed by 1xbit.

That is why I gave two examples, typing only 1xbit term in search engine you won't see any topic from bitcointalk forum or anything related with scam on top.
Just to clarify, they are not typical quick exit scam that shuts down website and steals all the money, but they are know for blocking accounts and confiscating money from individual customers.
We know their TrustPilot is heavily manipulate so we can't expect to see many scam reports there, and even with this they have 19% 1 star reviews.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/1xbit.com

One potential solution for Mycelium wallet, someone could fork it and create new wallet version without any ads, if that is even possible without messing everything up.
One github they show Apache 2.0 license, and this is what I found on their website:

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 27, 2022, 09:18:29 AM

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

I am not sure this is totally correct, because I remember someone on forum posting real connection between this two companies and owner was the same guy if I remember correctly.
They both used same third party services and IP addresses, and even same cryptocurrency address was used by both 1xbit and 1xbet, and that is more than enough evidence for me.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 27, 2022, 11:46:59 AM

That's their most important marketing technique, to make people think that 1xBet=1xBit. Cheesy

All these years I was seeing 1xBet in many leagues and used to wonder fucking shit loads of money they are spending in advertising but on the forum we know they are at the best level to scam users. I even never created any account with 1xBet because in my mind I thought they are 1xBit 🤣

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 26, 2022, 03:38:10 PM

I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.

Dunno about you, but for me bitcointalk topics are very close to the top and no one who actually type "is 1xbit scam?" won't miss it. Problem is that people google that only after they've been scammed by 1xbit.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 26, 2022, 05:02:57 PM

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

Yep, that's a very good question, reminds me of the sketch making fun of the fake moon landing conspiracy theory, in which conspirators concluded that it would be cheaper and easier to actually send man to the moon than fake it. Grin

One of the explanation could be that they are so incompetent that they end up scamming people, but I don't really believe in that scenario.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 27, 2022, 09:18:29 AM

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

That's their most important marketing technique, to make people think that 1xBet=1xBit. Cheesy

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Quote from: Taskford on July 27, 2022, 08:13:36 AM

But since Mycelium let that ads place on their platform it indicates that they are not checking the backgrounds of their promoters and just want their own gain for that situations.

I don't think when you go with an ad network then you have a choice of what you display. They give a code and the ad-network sends the ads based on the interest of the client browser. I am not expecting for one or two wrong ads a business or service will change their ad network.

Quote from: Taskford on July 27, 2022, 08:13:36 AM

If they could spend millions of dollars for advertisement then why they didn't solve the issue happened to their site? If they just take those situation or cases seriously for sure they can eliminate the doubts of people and we will not see any people discuss some bad words against them.

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

I am wondering who else was dogged like me 🤣

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 26, 2022, 03:44:52 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2022, 02:01:44 PM

Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.

Sometimes you need to consider that ads are not placed specifying a service. If they are using service like Google AdSense then the ad network is sending the ads and they have no control over it. There are many ad networks not just Google AdSense. 1xbit spends millions of dollar in their advertising. So obviously ad networks are one of the choice for them.

If they could spend millions of dollars for advertisement then why they didn't solve the issue happened to their site? If they just take those situation or cases seriously for sure they can eliminate the doubts of people and we will not see any people discuss some bad words against them.

But since Mycelium let that ads place on their platform it indicates that they are not checking the backgrounds of their promoters and just want their own gain for that situations.

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The way you encapsulated the situation it demonstrates typical selective scam behaviour by 1xbit. As long as they continue to fake reviews on TrustPilot on one hand and then continue to selective scam a handful of their own users on the other hand, they will never have 100% of their users complaining.

I do think due-diligence by users beforehand would have saved so much hassle for future victims but such are the attempts by 1xbit to cover their tracks with fake reviews that it is understandable gullible individuals will fall victim.

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 26, 2022, 05:02:57 PM

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

I guess they make more money this way. You scam just enough people and confiscate their funds to make good profits from it. But you don't overdo it to be tagged as complete scammers. That way you can still keep part of your userbase happy and don't make everyone angry.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on July 26, 2022, 03:38:10 PM

I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Typing 1xbit scam in search is giving much better results.

It's still not that bad. A thread from Bitcointalk's Scam Accusation's board is the 3rd result from the top on both Google and DuckDuckGo.

Even the first result is a review of the casinos and it shows a warning in bold that says: "The majority of the reported issues include missing funds, locked accounts, unresponsive support, and many more".
Source

Quote from: JollyGood on July 26, 2022, 05:02:57 PM

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

I guess they make more money this way. You scam just enough people and confiscate their funds to make good profits from it. But you don't overdo it to be tagged as complete scammers. That way you can still keep part of your userbase happy and don't make everyone angry.

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When you put it like that it is hard to disagree Grin

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

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Quote from: JollyGood on July 26, 2022, 12:50:33 PM

If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.

I don't think that Trustpilot has any credibility so having bunch of fake 1xbit reviews won't damage them much.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2022, 02:01:44 PM

Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.

Sometimes you need to consider that ads are not placed specifying a service. If they are using service like Google AdSense then the ad network is sending the ads and they have no control over it. There are many ad networks not just Google AdSense. 1xbit spends millions of dollar in their advertising. So obviously ad networks are one of the choice for them.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 26, 2022, 02:01:44 PM

Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.

They could simply do ~~google~~ internet re-search and find juicy information about them, like wikipedia article stating 1xbit was ''ousted for their involvement in illegal activities''.
I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Typing 1xbit scam in search is giving much better results.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 25, 2022, 02:59:13 PM

I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
Yeah I didn't know about it either up until recently when I got new PC and checked the website while forgetting to get adblocker on Mozilla. I thought that Coingecko is better than CMC in that regard but I guess they all like the money.

I think Coingecko still have less ads than CMC, but it's still bad for me.
It's harder to avoid ads on mobile devices but you could do it with host block list or use open source app like Blokada5 that blkocks adds for most apps.
Someone should try if it is working for blocking adds in Mycellium wallet.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on July 25, 2022, 12:27:30 PM

That's true, everyone in the world looks for money. Someone could sell the soul for money and Someone earned it the legal way. Since it's their business then they won't stop it. Coinzila doesn't have business with the public, their business is with companies and websites. So they don't care about the public's money. But gamblers should check themselves before depositing there. Need a bit of research, not just jump after seeing the ads.

Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 25, 2022, 02:59:13 PM

I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.

Yeah I didn't know about it either up until recently when I got new PC and checked the website while forgetting to get adblocker on Mozilla. I thought that Coingecko is better than CMC in that regard but I guess they all like the money.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 26, 2022, 12:50:33 PM

If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.

I don't think that Trustpilot has any credibility so having bunch of fake 1xbit reviews won't damage them much.

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If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.

Just the notion that the 1xbit scammers have more reviews on trustpilot than stake.com, is in itself just proof that 1xbit have infiltrated an otherwise mostly trusted review website.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 24, 2022, 01:46:33 AM

You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research.

I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot. IIRC, 1xbit_official even admitted once that they encourage and reward leaving a review, which is why all positive comments on Trustpilot have an "Invited" note next to them. For example, 1xBit has almost twice as many reviews on TrustPilot compared to Stake.com, and the traffic to their website is ten times less than that of Stake according to Similarweb.com.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on July 25, 2022, 12:27:30 PM

Someone could sell the soul for money

Would that be Digital goods or Invites & Accounts? I'm tempted Cheesy

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 25, 2022, 02:59:13 PM

Is there any way do disable or hide this coinzilla ads in Mycellium wallet, maybe with some external app or custom settings that hide ads for all apps?

I'm not sure which ads come from Coinzilla. After disabling anything it allows, all I see are the BUSINESSES and FIO REQUESTS tabs, but usually I don't scroll that far. I don't need anything right from TRANSACTIONS (I don't use the ADDRESS BOOK). The FIO thing looks like a shitcoin that somehow got added, and the BUSINESSES has offers like (I kid you not): "Small aircraft. $570,000 (only for Mycelium users)."

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on July 23, 2022, 03:52:06 PM

This is how it works, Mycelium makes a ad space available on their app, coinzilla rents that space to promote their clients business, in the end, client pays coinzilla, coinzilla then pays Mycelium, this is how it is across all other crypto platforms like etherscan, bscscan, poocoin and the rest.

Is there any way do disable or hide this coinzilla ads in Mycellium wallet, maybe with some external app or custom settings that hide ads for all apps?
I stopped using Mycellium wallet after they introduced this change and I see no real reason to use it for Bitcoin only wallet, and for multicoin wallets there is open source alternative Unstoppable wallet.
I understand developers need some funding to continues development, but I think this was long term wrong decision made by Mycellium team.

Quote from: Rikafip on July 24, 2022, 10:51:41 AM

Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.

I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
We also know that scam ads can be seen all over facebook, google and other websites, so we can't expect miracles from small company like coinzilla or mycellium Cheesy

Does anyone have full list of coinzilla partners?

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 24, 2022, 10:51:41 AM

Quote from: The Cryptovator on July 24, 2022, 09:24:53 AM

I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.

Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.

That's true, everyone in the world looks for money. Someone could sell the soul for money and Someone earned it the legal way. Since it's their business then they won't stop it. Coinzila doesn't have business with the public, their business is with companies and websites. So they don't care about the public's money. But gamblers should check themselves before depositing there. Need a bit of research, not just jump after seeing the ads.

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