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Topic: Mycelium Wallet Promoting Scam Bookies 1xbit.com (Read 1079 times)

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It should be possible since the wallet could be reproduced by Wallet Scrutiny[1]. The real question is who would bother maintain such fork?
It an be anyone who understands how coding works, if he is a regular user of Mycelium wallet that get's annoyed but this ads.
In my opinion there are other better open source alternatives for crypto wallets, and maybe that is the reason we didn't see any active Mycelium fork.
Original developers could also accept payment or donations that could remove all ads (with 1xbit in that package), but there is a general problem with app ads for smartphones.
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It's now clear they are doing massive promotion from 1xbet in the main stream media but in the online media they are promoting 1xbit, They do not care about the reputation since 1xbit is completely de-touched from 1xBet. It's obvious now 1xBet is legally operating with a license otherwise they could not promote in the mainstream media. The victims from 1xBit can use the evidence of connection and call out 1xBit.

Yes, they could. But a civil lawsuit of this nature instigated by a private party would be very expensive, and none of the scammed players are likely to pursue it. As a result, 1xBit can continue to scam their users for hundreds, even thousands, of dollars without fear, because they know they are practically above the law.

It's actually a tragicomic. For a company to proudly proclaim their "protected by law" status, one would think that at least a basic legally required information would be provided, such as contact information, incorporation name, legal jurisdiction, or anything of the sort that a business entity should have readily available. Yet, none of this has been provided by 1xBit. That fact alone is blatantly illegal.
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I am not sure this is totally correct,
You were actually right all those days.
I hope you meant that comment as sarcasm?  Grin
It was not sarcasm. It's been a long time I am assuming. I can recall something I read or wrote but I was not sure that it was about two of these sites. Other day when I was checking their sites then I discovered total two different sites and that made me confused. 🤣

It's now clear they are doing massive promotion from 1xbet in the main stream media but in the online media they are promoting 1xbit, They do not care about the reputation since 1xbit is completely de-touched from 1xBet. It's obvious now 1xBet is legally operating with a license otherwise they could not promote in the mainstream media. The victims from 1xBit can use the evidence of connection and call out 1xBit.
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Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

I hope you meant that comment as sarcasm?  Grin

Although 1xBit and 1XBET are, obviously, different sites (on two different domains), both casinos are owned and operated by the same company. This has already been irrefutably proven on numerous occasions.
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Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL
You were actually right all those days. They are different sites but both casinos are connected, and there's a lot of evidence pointing to their connection though they have tried always way to hide the connection, but archives don't lie. I even tried to post a few connections, but I think you missed it.
Just research about 1xcorp. N.V. You will see a string of scammy sites just like 1xbit, 1xslots etc, and 1xbet is one of those sites.
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Dunno about you, but for me bitcointalk topics are very close to the top and no one who actually type "is 1xbit scam?" won't miss it. Problem is that people google that only after they've been scammed by 1xbit.
That is why I gave two examples, typing only 1xbit term in search engine you won't see any topic from bitcointalk forum or anything related with scam on top.
Just to clarify, they are not typical quick exit scam that shuts down website and steals all the money, but they are know for blocking accounts and confiscating money from individual customers.
We know their TrustPilot is heavily manipulate so we can't expect to see many scam reports there, and even with this they have 19% 1 star reviews.


https://www.trustpilot.com/review/1xbit.com

One potential solution for Mycelium wallet, someone could fork it and create new wallet version without any ads, if that is even possible without messing everything up.
One github they show Apache 2.0 license, and this is what I found on their website:

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL
I am not sure this is totally correct, because I remember someone on forum posting real connection between this two companies and owner was the same guy if I remember correctly.
They both used same third party services and IP addresses, and even same cryptocurrency address was used by both 1xbit and 1xbet, and that is more than enough evidence for me.
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That's their most important marketing technique, to make people think that 1xBet=1xBit.  Cheesy
All these years I was seeing 1xBet in many leagues and used to wonder fucking shit loads of money they are spending in advertising but on the forum we know they are at the best level to scam users. I even never created any account with 1xBet because in my mind I thought they are 1xBit 🤣
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I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Dunno about you, but for me bitcointalk topics are very close to the top and no one who actually type "is 1xbit scam?" won't miss it. Problem is that people google that only after they've been scammed by 1xbit.


You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.
Yep, that's a very good question, reminds me of the sketch making fun of the fake moon landing conspiracy theory, in which conspirators concluded that it would be cheaper and easier to actually send man to the moon than fake it. Grin One of the explanation could be that they are so incompetent that they end up scamming people, but I don't really believe in that scenario.


Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL
That's their most important marketing technique, to make people think that 1xBet=1xBit.  Cheesy


 
legendary
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But since Mycelium let that ads place on their platform it indicates that they are not checking the backgrounds of their promoters and just want their own gain for that situations.
I don't think when you go with an ad network then you have a choice of what you display. They give a code and the ad-network sends the ads based on the interest of the client browser. I am not expecting for one or two wrong ads a business or service will change their ad network.

If they could spend millions of dollars for advertisement then why they didn't solve the issue happened to their site? If they just take those situation or cases seriously for sure they can eliminate the doubts of people and we will not see any people discuss some bad words against them.
Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

   


I am wondering who else was dogged like me 🤣

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Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.
Sometimes you need to consider that ads are not placed specifying a service. If they are using service like Google AdSense then the ad network is sending the ads and they have no control over it. There are many ad networks not just Google AdSense. 1xbit spends millions of dollar in their advertising. So obviously ad networks are one of the choice for them.

If they could spend millions of dollars for advertisement then why they didn't solve the issue happened to their site? If they just take those situation or cases seriously for sure they can eliminate the doubts of people and we will not see any people discuss some bad words against them.

But since Mycelium let that ads place on their platform it indicates that they are not checking the backgrounds of their promoters and just want their own gain for that situations.
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The way you encapsulated the situation it demonstrates typical selective scam behaviour by 1xbit. As long as they continue to fake reviews on TrustPilot on one hand and then continue to selective scam a handful of their own users on the other hand, they will never have 100% of their users complaining.

I do think due-diligence by users beforehand would have saved so much hassle for future victims but such are the attempts by 1xbit to cover their tracks with fake reviews that it is understandable gullible individuals will fall victim.

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.
I guess they make more money this way. You scam just enough people and confiscate their funds to make good profits from it. But you don't overdo it to be tagged as complete scammers. That way you can still keep part of your userbase happy and don't make everyone angry.
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I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Typing 1xbit scam in search is giving much better results.
It's still not that bad. A thread from Bitcointalk's Scam Accusation's board is the 3rd result from the top on both Google and DuckDuckGo.

Even the first result is a review of the casinos and it shows a warning in bold that says: "The majority of the reported issues include missing funds, locked accounts, unresponsive support, and many more".
Source


You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.
I guess they make more money this way. You scam just enough people and confiscate their funds to make good profits from it. But you don't overdo it to be tagged as complete scammers. That way you can still keep part of your userbase happy and don't make everyone angry.
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When you put it like that it is hard to disagree  Grin

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.
I don't think that Trustpilot has any credibility so having bunch of fake 1xbit reviews won't damage them much.
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Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.
Sometimes you need to consider that ads are not placed specifying a service. If they are using service like Google AdSense then the ad network is sending the ads and they have no control over it. There are many ad networks not just Google AdSense. 1xbit spends millions of dollar in their advertising. So obviously ad networks are one of the choice for them.
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Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.
They could simply do google internet re-search and find juicy information about them, like wikipedia article stating 1xbit was ''ousted for their involvement in illegal activities''.
I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Typing 1xbit scam in search is giving much better results.

I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
Yeah I didn't know about it either up until recently when I got new PC and checked the website while forgetting to get adblocker on Mozilla. I thought that Coingecko is better than CMC in that regard but I guess they all like the money.
I think Coingecko still have less ads than CMC, but it's still bad for me.
It's harder to avoid ads on mobile devices but you could do it with host block list or use open source app like Blokada5 that blkocks adds for most apps.
Someone should try if it is working for blocking adds in Mycellium wallet.
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That's true, everyone in the world looks for money. Someone could sell the soul for money and Someone earned it the legal way. Since it's their business then they won't stop it. Coinzila doesn't have business with the public, their business is with companies and websites. So they don't care about the public's money. But gamblers should check themselves before depositing there. Need a bit of research, not just jump after seeing the ads.
Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.


I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
Yeah I didn't know about it either up until recently when I got new PC and checked the website while forgetting to get adblocker on Mozilla. I thought that Coingecko is better than CMC in that regard but I guess they all like the money.


If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.
I don't think that Trustpilot has any credibility so having bunch of fake 1xbit reviews won't damage them much.


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If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.

Just the notion that the 1xbit scammers have more reviews on trustpilot than stake.com, is in itself just proof that 1xbit have infiltrated an otherwise mostly trusted review website.

You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research. 

I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot. IIRC, 1xbit_official even admitted once that they encourage and reward leaving a review, which is why all positive comments on Trustpilot have an "Invited" note next to them. For example, 1xBit has almost twice as many reviews on TrustPilot compared to Stake.com, and the traffic to their website is ten times less than that of Stake according to Similarweb.com.

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Someone could sell the soul for money
Would that be Digital goods or Invites & Accounts? I'm tempted Cheesy

Is there any way do disable or hide this coinzilla ads in Mycellium wallet, maybe with some external app or custom settings that hide ads for all apps?
I'm not sure which ads come from Coinzilla. After disabling anything it allows, all I see are the BUSINESSES and FIO REQUESTS tabs, but usually I don't scroll that far. I don't need anything right from TRANSACTIONS (I don't use the ADDRESS BOOK). The FIO thing looks like a shitcoin that somehow got added, and the BUSINESSES has offers like (I kid you not): "Small aircraft. $570,000 (only for Mycelium users)."
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This is how it works, Mycelium makes a ad space available on their app, coinzilla rents that space to promote their clients business, in the end, client pays coinzilla, coinzilla then pays Mycelium, this is how it is across all other crypto platforms like etherscan, bscscan, poocoin and the rest.
Is there any way do disable or hide this coinzilla ads in Mycellium wallet, maybe with some external app or custom settings that hide ads for all apps?
I stopped using Mycellium wallet after they introduced this change and I see no real reason to use it for Bitcoin only wallet, and for multicoin wallets there is open source alternative Unstoppable wallet.
I understand developers need some funding to continues development, but I think this was long term wrong decision made by Mycellium team.

Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.
I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
We also know that scam ads can be seen all over facebook, google and other websites, so we can't expect miracles from small company like coinzilla or mycellium  Cheesy
Does anyone have full list of coinzilla partners?

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I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.
Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.

That's true, everyone in the world looks for money. Someone could sell the soul for money and Someone earned it the legal way. Since it's their business then they won't stop it. Coinzila doesn't have business with the public, their business is with companies and websites. So they don't care about the public's money. But gamblers should check themselves before depositing there. Need a bit of research, not just jump after seeing the ads.
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I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot.
That is not something that surprises me. Bought and fake reviews have unfortunately become a normal thing these days. But the fact remains, if you are unaware of what 1xBit is from the many threads on this forum, and you just scratch the surface to see what comes out, you will get the feeling that 1xBit is a good casino with excellent ratings and many positive reviews. Even a search for "1xBit scam" shows casino reviews at the top of the results, where it's stated that the platform has its problems and some unresolved scam accusations, but overall, it's a great place to gamble. That's just the way things stand at the moment. 
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But some says they are sister site.

1x trademark is owned by the owner of Crex24 and according to this post, 1xbit = 1xbet = crex24. This is very much possible though the proof to link 1xbit with 1xbet and crex24 are too weak. On the other hand, crex24 = 1xbet is somewhat clear and the guy got some good proof, reasoning. Even crex24 has stated they have partnership with 1xbet. And we all know that crex24 is a shady business and if managed by same owner, 1xbet is also a shady casino.
Here is more proof to show that the 2 casino are related. Even wayback machine gives as a clue or two. Foolish Erdogan and group initially denied the claims, am surprised they now changed the goal posts.  Grin


1xbit support declares that 1xbet and 1xbit have nothing to do with each other, except a similar name:
What choice do you have except believe everything your scam masters say and come here and lie about it, despite all the evidence showing that the 2 scam casinos are sister companies?

Enjoy your bloody scam money in peace but don't make it worse by trying to defend the indefensible.

Let's go back in time a year after the beginning of the Russian scam casino: https://web.archive.org/web/20170603210023/https://1xbit.com/

When you scroll a bit down



Google translated
Quote
Do you like sports but can't find a suitable site for the right bets? 1xBit is the site for you. Since 2007, we have been offering our clients the most exciting sports betting and casino games. We have a huge selection of games for all gambling lovers. Have fun fighting our live dealers, spinning slots and enjoying other games.

Sign up to 1xBit and have an amazing gaming experience.

What does that highlighted sentence say about 1xbit?
Wait, which year was 1xbet founded again?

And more evidence by someone else here and here

I'm afraid that's not entirely true. When faced with all the evidence, 1xbit_official clearly shifted their argument from "there is no official connection" to "we are using software developed by the same company", and finally "the same company set up our service from a to z". So, it's obvious that there is at least some connection between the two platforms, besides just having a similar name and using the same software.

Furthermore, as I have shown before, both platforms use the same identification meta tags, which proves beyond a doubt that the same entity manages them both from the backend. As I have stated numerous times, these meta tags have nothing to do with the software these companies are using. Verification meta tags are not provided by game providers or software developers, but by third-party services, such as Google, Microsoft, Yandex and Paysera. They are required in order to verify ownership of a domain (website) at those services, and are unique to every user.

Taking it a step further, in a topic linked by Haunebu, there is strong evidence that there is a connection between KawBet and 1xBit. Both platforms use the same wallets for crypto deposits, which can be easily verified.



In addition to the Bitshares wallet, the same wallets are also used for EOS and Stellar deposits, and I suspect for other cryptocurrencies as well.
Code:
Bitshares wallet username: x1bit
Eos wallet username: x1bitpaygate
Stellar: GD5X7UT6V2LQPQVORA7KRNYAW4LTZWN6R4M3M5UHSGM7YIYGBN67IYP5

The same wallets are used on the 1xBET platform as well. As a result, all payments on any of these platforms go to the same account, and the same company handles all deposits and withdrawals, and that is 1xBET.



Several other platforms (with a shady history) are also affiliated with the same group:

888STARZ - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/888starz-casino-belongs-to-1xbet1xbit-known-scammers-plz-support-flag-5250905
Cleobet - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cleobet-another-betb2b-1xbet1xbit-clone-flag-to-be-supported-5237723
Pnxbet - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pnxbet-kawbet-1xbet1xbit-known-scammers-plz-support-flag-5235201

And that's not all ...
Here is another one using the same bitshares deposit address:
https://casino-z.com/

edit: there are many more:
https://bet-1xsport.com/
https://lordbetting.com/
https://betwinner.com
https://melbet.com/
https://playwetten.com/
...


So, to summarize: they use the same software and the same game provider, matching third-party verification tags, matching deposit addresses and wallets, matching terms of use...
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ...

And lastly, for all those who are still in denial, here are some quotes from their previous representative on this forum (or the same person under a different name) which completely refute their more recent claims:

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.
But its separate team and the owners.

We are related. Its obvious))
We are using a lot of 1xbet.com functions, 1xbet using some ours.
But our team is separate and we'll develop a lot of new features soon.

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You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research. 

I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot. IIRC, 1xbit_official even admitted once that they encourage and reward leaving a review, which is why all positive comments on Trustpilot have an "Invited" note next to them. For example, 1xBit has almost twice as many reviews on TrustPilot compared to Stake.com, and the traffic to their website is ten times less than that of Stake according to Similarweb.com.
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Put your biased opinion somewhere else, not here. You are vouching for them because they have given you a spot on their campaign? It would be better if you verified and justified the accusations before you decide to promote them. Also, you can check my post above and get an idea how shady they can be.
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Or maybe you should all do a thorough research of who makes complaints, why they do it and whether they are dealt with and how? Also check on what basis you issue your opinions - on the basis of facts or the opinions of others.
Because maybe it is that 1xbit and 1xbet are fair casinos and organizations such as Serie A, Barcelona, Confederation of African Football and others have good research and have better checked who they work with?

FC Barcelona - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/1263451/fc-barcelona-adds-1xbet-as-a-new-global-partner
CAF (Confederation of African Football) - https://www.cafonline.com/competitions/sponsors/ - Yes, a whole continent with over a billion people!
Serie A - https://www.legaseriea.it/en
ESL Pro League - https://pro.eslgaming.com/csgo/proleague/

Maybe you should check if the owner of 1xbit and 1xbet is one company, or you don't know it and you are still speculating?
Maybe the time has finally come to check if all these negative opinions about 1xbit come from facts or are they simply duplicated unverified opinions?


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I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.
Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.
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Recently I learned about Mycelium push notifications and banner ads organized by the Coinzila ad network. So I don't think Coinzila filter scams or Mycelium filter scams. It's likely the same forum, they don't moderate scams. Coinzila just need KYC verification to run ads to their network. I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.
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You may not like a wallet advertising a particular service and I understand this. But, that doesn't mean the wallet is not secure.
That's true indeed, but personally I find in-wallet advertising and/or partnering with 3rd party services distasteful, for lack of a better word.  Even when the Dash Electrum wallet suddenly displayed a pro-Ukraine message, I found that to be well beyond what a software wallet should be about.  But when we're talking about one that obviously doesn't do their due diligence on a partner or doesn't care about that partner's reputation, that's concerning (to me at least).

I was surprised to see this thread pop up, because I was under the impression that the Mycelium team had stopped development of their wallet.  There haven't been many threads about it in the last couple of years, and I was pretty sure it had slipped off people's radar.  Interesting.

Edit:  *Oh, shit!*  I just realized this is an old thread!  My bad (though I guess I was right about Mycelium's popularity decline).
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You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research. 
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A lot has been learned about 1xBet since I made those comments.  I no longer have the confidence to stand behind those words, so I updated my original post to strike out that comment.  I don't use either site, but I've been told that the sites are nearly identical barring cosmetics and branding.  There are also many scam allegations against 1xBet in the last year.  I don't know that they are affiliated, but they seem to behave similarly.
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1xbet.com is a legit bookmakers

1xBet is a legitimate sportsbook.

But some says they are sister site.

1x trademark is owned by the owner of Crex24 and according to this post, 1xbit = 1xbet = crex24. This is very much possible though the proof to link 1xbit with 1xbet and crex24 are too weak. On the other hand, crex24 = 1xbet is somewhat clear and the guy got some good proof, reasoning. Even crex24 has stated they have partnership with 1xbet. And we all know that crex24 is a shady business and if managed by same owner, 1xbet is also a shady casino.
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I found this thread through this one https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbit-advertised-on-mycelium-5404996.

First, I will like everyone to know that i did not read every comment on this thread, so maybe another user might have posted this which am posting right now, forgive me in such case.

The topic of Mycelium wallet promoting scam 1xbit might not really be their fault from what I know about coinzilla ad service.
What Is Coinzilla?
Coinzilla is an ad network which allows you to advertise your product across hundreds (if not thousands) of blockchain, crypto and web3 focused websites and Apps.
From what i know, after setting up your ad account on coinzilla, you choose where you want your ad to be displayed, coinzilla then places your ads on the platforms you choose as long as those platforms individually have ad spaces available.

So on the subject of this discussion, i think coinzilla is responsible for the 1xbit ad which is displayed on Mycelium wallet app.
This is how it works, Mycelium makes a ad space available on their app, coinzilla rents that space to promote their clients business, in the end, client pays coinzilla, coinzilla then pays Mycelium, this is how it is across all other crypto platforms like etherscan, bscscan, poocoin and the rest.
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this bookmaker is advertised in also another well known service. likewise... coinmarketcap show clearly their banner
https://i.ibb.co/HgvhJ5r/Schermata-2021-08-03-alle-20-53-10.png
and I have the same your reaction time ago while noticing it Sad
It's not the first scam I have seen coinmarketcap advertise  Grin

That aside, After looking at the issue which was raised on GitHub. Where the dev responded and said they wouldn't fix what was requested and even closed it, I think it's time for me to stop using Mycelium. What a disappointment they have been on handling the 1xbit advertising.
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Barcelona is also having partnership with 1xbet
Are you sure that Barcelona has a partnership with 1xbet. I am sorry but I have no idea about it. But if they have a partnership then I think they do not clearly known about the scam activity of 1xbet. But I have doubt about their partnership. I think if they have partnership with 1xbet then they will not delay to cancel the deal after the clarification of the scam activity.

1xBet is indeed a sponsor of Barcelona FC, but don't confuse 1xBet with 1xBit.  1xBet is a legitimate sportsbook.  1xBit is a scam hoping the subtle difference gives them more opportunities to scam.

This from Barcelona FC's website: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors/
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Barcelona is also having partnership with 1xbet
Are you sure that Barcelona has a partnership with 1xbet. I am sorry but I have no idea about it. But if they have a partnership then I think they do not clearly known about the scam activity of 1xbet. But I have doubt about their partnership. I think if they have partnership with 1xbet then they will not delay to cancel the deal after the clarification of the scam activity.
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There is nothing of substance solved in that post. Where is the recourse for those victims wrongly accused of breaking the ToS that are being used to steal from them?

And what is the name and address of the owner/operator of the 1xbit website? That information should be listed on the website but is deliberately missing. In other threads you keep avoiding the answer, let us see if you answer here.


Before blaming anyone, take a look at this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56150537

Perhaps that is enough for neutral people to have some faith in 1xBit. Dyor.

Sincerely,
1xBit team
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this bookmaker is advertised in also another well known service. likewise... coinmarketcap show clearly their banner

and I have the same your reaction time ago while noticing it Sad

The question is if CMC sold ad space to 1xbit OR if whoever CMC is selling ad space to sold space to them.
It's probably worth reaching out to CMC and see what they say.

But, remember Mycelium sat down and coded 1x into their product, so you know there was some communication between the two of them.

-Dave

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this bookmaker is advertised in also another well known service. likewise... coinmarketcap show clearly their banner

and I have the same your reaction time ago while noticing it Sad
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I haven't used Mycelium wallet since the first time I played with it a couple of years ago.  The minute I saw that it was pushing ads I dumped it and never looked back.  There are way to many truly free wallets out there, no need to deal advertisements in your wallet app.  Like LoyceV has already mentioned, if they are so hungry for money that they'll advertise a scam site then it seems like only a matter of time before they turn into scammers themselves.  Even it's merely an oversight, it shows that the wallet development team is less inclined to research their advertisers.


Dyor.

Done.  Conclusion: 1xBit is a scam.
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Perhaps that is enough for neutral people to have some faith in 1xBit.
Nope. I've been called Switzerland for being neutral, and I don't trust your site one bit.
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Before blaming anyone, take a look at this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56150537

Perhaps that is enough for neutral people to have some faith in 1xBit. Dyor.

Sincerely,
1xBit team
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This is Dave's opinion and nothing more: Mycelium and Giszmo are no longer worth our time.

1) Unless I missed it nowhere on the walletsecurity site. Which Giszmo is in charge of does it mention that he is one of the developers of Mycelium. Even if I missed it and it is there it still does not matter because of:

2) There is at least 1 possibly 2 wallets that are reproducible that wallet security lists as unreproducible. And this is by people (or person) who has no idea what that are doing. Just following the posted instructions. Now, it's possible that between the time they posted and it was tested they either the source code or executable was changed to match up with what was there. But that does not matter because:

3) Many wallets are in a constant state of being updated, saying a random person on the internet can compile it and it matches ain't worth shit. Sorry but it's not. And unless we know the process control of updating their site it's worth less then shit. Who owns the domain, who controls the updates, etc. Is it just one person or a team. How are they vetted, etc. And the above don't matter because:

4) You would have to be just interested in making a few dollars to have advertisers in your wallet that you did not check out. And since they are here on this forum it's real easy to see what 1xbit is all about.

Just my opinion and nothing more.
I used mycelium for years and years, but with the token sale crap, and everything else they have done. It's obvious they just no longer care.

-Dave
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It would make sense if more people send them an email too,( bugging them till we get a positive response)  ~snip
Since they only use an email as a way of communication, the other way around is to post the issue on their Github issue tracker. I know that is not how the Github issue tracker supposed to be, but it will make them to at least respond to the inquires publicly.

There are also some users complaining about casino ads back then in January[1], I might bump the issues while tagging the dev in the hope they will respond about 1xbit.

[1] https://github.com/mycelium-com/wallet-android/issues/578
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I have emailed their support about the issue and asked them to look into it. I may share the details here if they respond to the email, for purposes of clarity. Let us hope they respond positively for the sake of their reputation.
Good move... It would make sense if more people send them an email too,( bugging them till we get a positive response)  I sent mine a few weeks ago no response yet; I assumed they are fully cognizant but the bill was too good to be turned down. Too bad I'll have to change my staked address.
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I have emailed their support about the issue and asked them to look into it. I may share the details here if they respond to the email, for purposes of clarity. Let us hope they respond positively for the sake of their reputation.
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I don't know how reputable Mycelium really is, in fact I would label them just the opposite.  I used to use their wallet on my apple iphone and one day it just stopped working.  Thankfully I had been able to already take all of my funds off of it, but I still looked in to what was going on.  I was surprised to learn that they simply stopped servicing the app.  Just like that they just quite on it, proving no support as far as I could tell as well.  That was pathetic and wrong, that is not how a legit company should be operating.  I will never use their products or services again.
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I have been using Mycelium wallet for more than a year now and I have never faced any issues to date. They had been advertising this scam website under media flow but recently they have started promoting them under a new heading Crypto Betting. Such promoting will destroy its reputation, they should reassess their advertisement policy. Associating themselves with a scam betting website will only ruin their customer base.
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Maybe, and maybe they don’t care as long as they benefit from promoting such services. I am of the opinion that it is not professional to make such a mistake, because if you provide a very serious service, then you need to be especially careful what you advertise within that service. Any user of this crypto wallet who becomes a victim of this scam bookmaker will surely become a former user.
I do agree with the bolded, and if this is just a bad case of negligence on their part when doing proper research, it doesn't make it much better, as how exactly can you trust their wallet if they can't do something as simple as checking someone's track record before advertising them. I personally never used Mycelium wallet, but if I did, I would probably stop using them at least until this is resolved.


To be frank I'm disappointed to see the ads of 1xbit in mycelium, but I do not think that Mycelium is scammer just because of the ads.
Best case scenario is that they acted irresponsibly and didn't check properly. Question is do you trust companies like that with your own money.
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It means that you are also saying that Barcelona, one of the biggest football clubs in the world is also scammer because Barcelona is also having partnership with 1xbet which is known as the main site or sister site of 1xbit?
For your information 1xbet.com is different from 1xbit.com don't put the two in the same sentence, 1xbet.com is a legit bookmakers and they are not crypto gambling site they uses local fiat, I'm a big fan and I've been using them for a long time now. What you see on the Bacelona official page is 1xbet.com not 1xbit.com. 1xbit.com is a clone site of 1Xbet.com

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I'm mycelium user and I noticed about the ads since few weeks ago. To be frank I'm disappointed to see the ads of 1xbit in mycelium, but I do not think that Mycelium is scammer just because of the ads.
If you rent out your apartment to kidnappers what are you? They are not scammers but they are dining with scammers. Precautions is better than cure.
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I have no idea either Mycelium is scam or not but I think those who promote scammers are also scam. By considering this if Mycelium promotes 1xbit then I think Mycelium is scammer too. I am not sure either they are promoting or not as I am not using Mycelium..

It means that you are also saying that Barcelona, one of the biggest football clubs in the world is also scammer because Barcelona is also having partnership with 1xbet which is known as the main site or sister site of 1xbit?

I'm mycelium user and I noticed about the ads since few weeks ago. To be frank I'm disappointed to see the ads of 1xbit in mycelium, but I do not think that Mycelium is scammer just because of the ads.
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They are too smart to know those who deposit to test the system to see if it pays or not and those set of users usually stake with a little amount, in cases like this they sometimes payout those smaller amounts to give you self motivation to come back with a high stake and to have some kind of society backup. But their major targets are high stakers. They act like a Ponzi scheme( pay 100 people, scammed 10,000 people )

Of course, you pay $10 to 100 ordinary people and you get a great base of satisfied users who will spread the good news through their social networks, and in addition, they have an additional motive in promoting their ref links. Then a player appears who has made a deposit of say 1 BTC and when he says that his money has been stolen, his voice in the crowd of 100 votes is almost inaudible.



As some others said, Mycelium probably didn't do a proper due diligence.

Maybe, and maybe they don’t care as long as they benefit from promoting such services. I am of the opinion that it is not professional to make such a mistake, because if you provide a very serious service, then you need to be especially careful what you advertise within that service. Any user of this crypto wallet who becomes a victim of this scam bookmaker will surely become a former user.



I have no idea either Mycelium is scam or not but I think those who promote scammers are also scam.

If you think that way, then this forum is also a scam - because not only that this service is advertised on the forum, but the scam is not moderated here.
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I have no idea either Mycelium is scam or not but I think those who promote scammers are also scam. By considering this if Mycelium promotes 1xbit then I think Mycelium is scammer too. I am not sure either they are promoting or not as I am not using Mycelium..
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As some others said, Mycelium probably didn't do a proper due diligence. I saw 1xbit being promoted on some other legit sites too, so I guess that all these warnings on bitcointalk don't have that big of a reach, unfortunately.

Since they are not active on any social media, I don't see any other way to contact mycelium other than via email, so if enough of us contact them, they might stop promoting 1xbit. Anyway, here is the email address [email protected]
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1xbit is only tagged as a scam here in the forum. Outside, 1xbit is heavily promoted and they are even considered as top sites to most crypto betting reviews sites making it a legit site for those users that don't browse in this forum.
Bitconnect also had heavy promotions back in the day, including on sites like coinmarketcap. Livecoin was also tagged as scam in this forum and a couple of years later, look where it ended. It's all about money, but that does not stop them from being known as scammers. I never trust most of the review sites, especially ones that earn from referrals.

A small search on other sites like reddit and trust pilot immediately gives a picture about the kind of service 1xbit is. SCAM.
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I am not familiar with Mycelium wallet nor I am using that anyway. But I heard Mycelium is a well-reputed Bitcoin wallet. Actually, this advertising is a part of business, it's pretty sure they have a business partnership and that's why they are advertising a scam site like 1xbit. Perhaps Mycelium getting short-time benefits from 1xbit but for a long time, they are going to losing potential users. Because once Mycelium's users will join 1xbit and encounter scammy behaviors then definitely that users will leave Mycelium. Or they don't know about 1xbit scammy behaviors like theymos missed it at the beginning of running forum ads.
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I tried to build locally the wallet and was able to found out 1xbit CDN images:

https://mycelium-wallet.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/business-partners/1xbit/Mycelium_6_720x422.jpg
https://mycelium-wallet.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/business-partners/1xbit/Mycelium_6_720x1236.jpg

They dedicated a tap ( cryptobetting) on their wallet to 1xbit.com and they also have a promotional code that gives 125% on first deposit to new users who register using the code "Mycelium", they are not only paid to advertise but it seems like they are in partnership with 1xbit.com.
Judging by how the above image URL looks like, it's very likely they partnered up with 1xbit.
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I am not using Mycelium wallet so I don't know and I don't care what they used for advertising, but 1xbit is known for aggressive marketing so it's no surprise to see them everywhere, including in bitcointalk signature campaign.
Disable that option to show ads in setting if possible or just switch to better alternative wallets like BlueWallet or Electrum.
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I'm a little surprised that most people think that they really pay unique users (is there any proof of payments at all?), but it seems to me that they have created an account farm that they use as a cover-up for their campaign.
They are too smart to know those who deposit to test the system to see if it pays or not and those set of users usually stake with a little amount, in cases like this they sometimes payout those smaller amounts to give you self motivation to come back with a high stake and to have some kind of society backup. But their major targets are high stakers. They act like a Ponzi scheme( pay 100 people, scammed 10,000 people )
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The power of money you can see it from their signature campaign here, they offer so much they are buying their way to the top, they pay for almost everything from site reviews to testimonies, to the advertisement.

If something is unequivocally proven as a scam (and I think in this case there is no doubt), then the problem is that the forum (admin) allows their activities to take place smoothly on the forum. On the other hand, I'm a little surprised that most people think that they really pay unique users (is there any proof of payments at all?), but it seems to me that they have created an account farm that they use as a cover-up for their campaign.

In any case, it would be good for everyone to investigate who they do business with if they want to preserve their reputation - who is next to appear on their ads, maybe Yo-Yo-bit?
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Settings > External services > 1xbit.com turn off
Also: Settings > Notifications > Media Flow > Disable.

I love reading a few of their Media Flow so I left that enabled they do have some interesting crypto news most of the time. I hate wallet with some many ads I've moved my assets to Trustwallet.

Outside, 1xbit is heavily promoted and they are even considered as top sites to most crypto betting reviews sites making it a legit site for those users that don't browse in this forum.
The power of money you can see it from their signature campaign here, they offer so much they are buying their way to the top, they pay for almost everything from site reviews to testimonies, to the advertisement.
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Settings > External services > 1xbit.com turn off
Also: Settings > Notifications > Media Flow > Disable.

they are even considered as top sites to most crypto betting reviews sites
I guess they earn from referrals or direct payments.
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1xbit is only tagged as a scam here in the forum. Outside, 1xbit is heavily promoted and they are even considered as top sites to most crypto betting reviews sites making it a legit site for those users that don't browse in this forum.

What we can do now is to spread awareness. I do hope that those who use Mycelium will only use the wallet "as a wallet".

Settings > External services > 1xbit.com turn off

Yes, it works. The 1xbit banner at the header is now removed.
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Unfortunately they don't use social media (according to https://wallet.mycelium.com/#support), so there's no way to ask about it and get answer publicly.
Yeah  I just noticed that too but I've figured out a way to disabled some of their media flow adverts

Settings > External services > 1xbit.com turn off

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...snip...
They dedicated a tap ( cryptobetting) on their wallet to 1xbit.com and they also have a promotional code that gives 125% on first deposit to new users who register using the code "Mycelium", they are not only paid to advertise but it seems like they are in partnership with 1xbit.com. money is powerful if you ask me. I don't know what options this belong to but Mycelium are fully aware of the advertisement and reporting to them would lead to nowhere.

Check the upper part of the image.

If there's promo code which refer to mycelium, then only 2nd/3rd option possible. But since Mycelium have decent reputation, it's possible they didn't do proper research. Unfortunately they don't use social media (according to https://wallet.mycelium.com/#support), so there's no way to ask about it and get answer publicly.
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...snip...
They dedicated a tap ( cryptobetting) on their wallet to 1xbit.com and they also have a promotional code that gives 125% on first deposit to new users who register using the code "Mycelium", they are not only paid to advertise but it seems like they are in partnership with 1xbit.com. money is powerful if you ask me. I don't know what options this belong to but Mycelium are fully aware of the advertisement and reporting to them would lead to nowhere.

Check the upper part of the image.

It doesn't show in my wallet yet, but this is bad Sad
Check on media flow or click the cryptobetting tap
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It doesn't show in my wallet yet, but this is bad Sad

I can understand that it can sometimes be a challenge to determine if a service is a scam or not
I've also seen wallets that promote an exchanger service that has several scam accusations against them.

Since mycelium is open-source and noncustodial, at least I know my fund is secure.
If they decide to scam their users, just one (automated) update is enough to give them access to your funds. The 6-digit PIN isn't going to save you from that.
If they don't mind their users getting scammed, as long as they earn from it, what's to stop them from selling the wallet to a scammer (just like a certain paper wallet site did)?
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This is not a thread but rather a question because I'm kind of mystified about why a reputable wallet as Mycelium would promote a well-known crypto scam bookmakers 1xbit.com on every page of their official wallet. They even have a promotional code for the first deposit bonus. The fact that they accept a partnership with 1xbit.com is a big turn off for me I'm moving my coins except I see a good reason why I should not.


I don't like the shady services by 1xbit.com but there is nothing wrong with Mycelium wallet. 1xbit.com may have given good money to them for promotion and they have accepted it.
Before you leave the Mycelium Wallet services, i have one question. We see scam sites being published in google ads too, so have we quitted google and youtube  too?
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..snip..
I understood your point very well that they operates a non-custodial service and all funds are secured but what would happen if those who joined thru mycelium found out that the wallet thy trusted so much with is playing a role in a scam project? Do you think that anyone would want to save their funds in the hands of scammers? I'll leave a negative report
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Secured wallets or not what they are doing is below expectation, do you have any idea how many holders/customers they must have led to 1xbit thru their Media?
You are right. Many people will probably see the advertisement and will put their money on 1xbit. They will consider 1xbit as a trusted gambling website only because they (wrongly) believe that a service promoted by a reputable wallet like mycelium is trustworthy.
It's clear why Mycelium is promoting 1xbit. They only think about money.

If a custodial wallet or an exchange promotes a scam, I would immediately stop using it. Since mycelium is open-source and noncustodial, at least I know my fund is secure. This is what I was saying in my previous post.

Of course, I agree with you.
You should no longer use mycelium if security of your fund isn't your only concern. By using mycelium, you help them have more users and earn more money from such advertisements.
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I've lost my respect for Mycelium, they chose money over a good reputation who know what they would do next. The fact that they have a promotional code drives me insane.

This is very unfortunate for Mycelium. I can understand that it can sometimes be a challenge to determine if a service is a scam or not, but I am surprised by their decision to promote 1xbit, especially considering the negative reputation that this casino has here and all over the Internet. While it is obvious that 1xbit has a lot of resources available for marketing, putting money first isn't always the best choice.
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You may not like a wallet advertising a particular service and I understand this. But, that doesn't mean the wallet is not secure.
Mycelium wallet is open-source and also gives you full control over your fund. There's nothing in the code they hide from users.
Secured wallets or not what they are doing is below expectation, do you have any idea how many holders/customers they must have led to 1xbit thru their Media? When a reputable source advertise a certain product the market and the amount of users becomes high, what do you think would happen if Elon Musk was to advertise 1xbit or tweet about them? Millions of people would get scammed.

I understand the need for money, but this is way below the belt for Mycelium. Of all businesses and services, they had to go for a proven scam such as 1xbit?
I've lost my respect for Mycelium, they chose money over a good reputation who know what they would do next. The fact that they have a promotional code drives me insane.
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I understand the need for money, but this is way below the belt for Mycelium. Of all businesses and services, they had to go for a proven scam such as 1xbit?

I don't see anything about 1xbit in media follow like in your case, but I do see a cryptobetting tab dedicated to 1xbit in my app  Sad




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You may not like a wallet advertising a particular service and I understand this. But, that doesn't mean the wallet is not secure.
Mycelium wallet is open-source and also gives you full control over your fund. There's nothing in the code they hide from users.
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This is not a thread but rather a question because I'm kind of mystified about why a reputable wallet as Mycelium would promote a well-known crypto scam bookmakers 1xbit.com on every page of their official wallet. They even have a promotional code for the first deposit bonus. The fact that they accept a partnership with 1xbit.com is a big turn off for me I'm moving my coins except I see a good reason why I should not.
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