Topic: Kawbet belongs to 1xbet/1xbit (known scammers) - Plz support flag! (Read 2062 times)
Oh shit, here we go again. My first thought when I visited Cleobet website - seems that I saw it already and it looks very similar to 1xbet. Though, not exactly same like Kawbet. But I didn't wanted to attack them without any proofs. Some investigation is needed, but seems that now they tried to hide all traces better.
April 02, 2020, 03:49:15 PM
Attention please
Some new crypto bookie - cleobet.io - launched a signature campaign thread a few minutes ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-cleobetio-signature-campaign-srherolegendary-members-25-spots-5237438
A quick look at their website is enough to realize that this is just another 1xbet/1xbit clone... I dont have any other "proof" yet but I thought it make sense to post this as quickly as possible so everyone is alarmed. Very first "standard" checks show they are learning... No ANN thread, a simple google search doesnt seem to show any connection, different license, no bitpay as payment where we saw same destination addresses previously.
Yeah, looks like they have an escrow for the signature campaign but we all know - the problem with that group is not whether signature campaign participants will get paid - Kawbet also paid their participants.
See screenshots of cleobet & 1xbet/1xbit below - registration process is almost identical... this is not just "inspiration", it´s the same "software"...
cleobet.io
1xbet
1xbit
Some new crypto bookie - cleobet.io - launched a signature campaign thread a few minutes ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-cleobetio-signature-campaign-srherolegendary-members-25-spots-5237438
A quick look at their website is enough to realize that this is just another 1xbet/1xbit clone... I dont have any other "proof" yet but I thought it make sense to post this as quickly as possible so everyone is alarmed. Very first "standard" checks show they are learning... No ANN thread, a simple google search doesnt seem to show any connection, different license, no bitpay as payment where we saw same destination addresses previously.
Yeah, looks like they have an escrow for the signature campaign but we all know - the problem with that group is not whether signature campaign participants will get paid - Kawbet also paid their participants.
See screenshots of cleobet & 1xbet/1xbit below - registration process is almost identical... this is not just "inspiration", it´s the same "software"...
cleobet.io
1xbet
1xbit
March 28, 2020, 06:20:27 PM
the representative of KawBet(KawBet) in this forum was banned a few weeks ago(not sure what he got banned for) thus explain why he stopped responding to anyone. but even if he didn't I doubt he'd be able to clean their name because of how poorly he handled the situation.
That's interesting. As I understand, they were banned permanently, so, it would be interesting to know what was reason of ban.But ban isn't excsuse. I remember when first accusations appeared, they ignored all questions about their relation with 1xbit and their communication wasn't professional.
March 28, 2020, 07:50:18 AM
the representative of KawBet(KawBet) in this forum was banned a few weeks ago(not sure what he got banned for) thus explain why he stopped responding to anyone. but even if he didn't I doubt he'd be able to clean their name because of how poorly he handled the situation.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, unexpectedly, I assumed that they were not active because they abandoned their project on this forum. Not only me, many others, too, no one noticed that they were banned. Before they disappeared, they announced that they would return to solve the problem 
But having account banned doesn't prevent them from returning if they want, they can create new accounts. Unwittingly, it could be an excuse for them to keep going out.
March 28, 2020, 06:29:53 AM
As with most scammers, after they get caught out either they stop using the associated user account to post or they simply post nonsense attacking those that exposed them. In this case the associated account has stopped posting but that does not mean they do not have other accounts to post from.
This forum has been used by scammers and thieves to scam people for many years, that is an unwanted by-product of being a very open forum.
This forum has been used by scammers and thieves to scam people for many years, that is an unwanted by-product of being a very open forum.
the representative of KawBet(KawBet) in this forum was banned a few weeks ago(not sure what he got banned for) thus explain why he stopped responding to anyone. but even if he didn't I doubt he'd be able to clean their name because of how poorly he handled the situation.
March 26, 2020, 03:11:49 PM
As with most scammers, after they get caught out either they stop using the associated user account to post or they simply post nonsense attacking those that exposed them. In this case the associated account has stopped posting but that does not mean they do not have other accounts to post from.
This forum has been used by scammers and thieves to scam people for many years, that is an unwanted by-product of being a very open forum.
This forum has been used by scammers and thieves to scam people for many years, that is an unwanted by-product of being a very open forum.
March 26, 2020, 09:23:40 AM
They've done that and they're still active, we can only issue a warning, pretty sure that many people will reach them through the ads.
The website may still be active but they already lost the trust here and i don't think any sensible bitcointalk member would risk using their service.Yesterday i saw how they are aggressively displaying banners in beermoneyforums along side 1xbet's, you can clearly see that it's the same people behind them.
March 25, 2020, 03:11:50 AM
It was so good that this Kawbet scammers got busted before they could establish there scam casino here and get trusted by many members. I am also leaving them a negative.
They've done that and they're still active, we can only issue a warning, pretty sure that many people will reach them through the ads. Why doesn't a business focus on advertising for their official project but develop many different projects in the same way? They are almost the same, so what is the purpose for it?
The evidence above seems sufficient to prove the relationship between Pnxbet and Kawbet
No question - they definitely are connected: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pnxbet-kawbet-1xbet1xbit-known-scammers-plz-support-flag-5235201
March 25, 2020, 12:47:29 AM
It was so good that this Kawbet scammers got busted before they could establish there scam casino here and get trusted by many members. I am also leaving them a negative.
They've done that and they're still active, we can only issue a warning, pretty sure that many people will reach them through the ads. Why doesn't a business focus on advertising for their official project but develop many different projects in the same way? They are almost the same, so what is the purpose for it?
The evidence above seems sufficient to prove the relationship between Pnxbet and Kawbet
March 24, 2020, 06:42:29 PM
I just came here through a scam accusation thread where someone got scammed over 2800 Euros by PNXBET. PNXBET.COM ---- SCAM
It was so good that this Kawbet scammers got busted before they could establish there scam casino here and get trusted by many members. I am also leaving them a negative.
Thanks OP
It was so good that this Kawbet scammers got busted before they could establish there scam casino here and get trusted by many members. I am also leaving them a negative.
Thanks OP
March 24, 2020, 02:40:37 PM
I played in casino and sportsbook in site pnxbet.com. When i made first payout 300 euro i received money in 1 day. When i received my second payment 1000 eur, they close my account and confiscate all my balance 2830 eur. Pnxbet even didnt give back my deposit. I would ask you help of return my money. Thanks so much.
As far as i know, pnxbet.com is not connected to Kawbet. So i would recommend you to open up a new thread in the scam accusations board with all the details of how you were scammedOh my... I couldnt respond earlier because I had no forum access... and looks like theres already "work" to be done with all those scammers out there. The thing is... pnxbet and kawbet actually seem to be connected... I mentioned that in one of my first posts in this thread, I would now have to do some research again in order to fit the pieces together. I remember they are being promoted together on lots of sites and youtube channels and there is even some linked in profile proving they belong together.
Side note: Googling kawbet now you will see they are pumping advertising blogposts on a regular basis these days...
Side note 2: Pnxbet have a bad reputation, here and on other portals
Proof pnxbet and kawbet belong together:
Kawbet representative in this forum confirming this - see quote:
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Re: (Unprocessable subject) [#1824643]
Good Day. We are bringing to your notice that we made a decision to stop any collaboration with you (closing your gaming account) on the basis of General Terms and Conditions of the Bookmaker Company:
Re: (Unprocessable subject) [#1824643]
Good Day. We are bringing to your notice that we made a decision to stop any collaboration with you (closing your gaming account) on the basis of General Terms and Conditions of the Bookmaker Company:
Upon checking with the team you did not reply with the email sent to you on where you should process the refund, please reply with the ticket and ask them to
"activate account in order for me to process my withdrawal".
Point 1. I have also noticed that your the same person that is facilitating multiple accounts, arbitrage betting, corridor betting from pnxbet.com (the same company managed by kawbet) where you also have been banned by violating such terms. So banning your account would be common in any sportsbook company as they has the right reason on cheating players.
Point 2. Most banned players from these sportsbook are based from a collective data gathered by the company which players that ONLY involve fraud.
Don't forget to reply with the email, wish you all the good luck
Linkedin Profile: https://cy.linkedin.com/in/kawbet-by-pnxtech-n-v-289b6119a (screenshot below)
Press Release confirming pnxbet and kawbet belong together: https://zycrypto.com/kawbet-an-innovative-bitcoin-casino-and-sportsbook-transforms-the-betting-space-with-fast-withdrawals-and-more/ (screenshot below)
March 21, 2020, 04:13:51 PM
I played in casino and sportsbook in site pnxbet.com. When i made first payout 300 euro i received money in 1 day. When i received my second payment 1000 eur, they close my account and confiscate all my balance 2830 eur. Pnxbet even didnt give back my deposit. I would ask you help of return my money. Thanks so much.
As far as i know, pnxbet.com is not connected to Kawbet. So i would recommend you to open up a new thread in the scam accusations board with all the details of how you were scammed March 19, 2020, 05:09:53 AM
They are not only advertising on coinmarketcap but actually all over the net and on places that cost way more... I am glad the English clubs suspended their cooperation with them but 1xbet is still "partner" of several big international clubs - I hate the fact they are "global partner" of FC Barcelona...
It will be a completely different story from this topic when we talk about ethics 
There are many websites that never care about what they're advertising, the only thing they care about is the cost they get. Not only coinmarketcap, etherscan and a few other platforms have advertised many fraudulent projects. Certainly Google is not an exception 
March 19, 2020, 04:55:24 AM
So yes this could be an idea, be on the first page of the popular search engine, but I don't think it can be a solution to avoid people to get scammed. Nowadays a lot of people get scammed by 1xbet despite there are a lots of scam accusations.
1xbet is a different story than Kawbet. A lot of people use it because it's advertised on coinmarketcap.com. It is understandable that a phishing platform is still used because it is promoted by one of the places with the highest traffic. Of course, the cost of advertising on coinmarketcap.com is not cheap. I haven't seen Kawbet have any similar ads Quote below for reference
1xbit is advertised directly in coinmarketcap, look screenshot !
They are not only advertising on coinmarketcap but actually all over the net and on places that cost way more... I am glad the English clubs suspended their cooperation with them but 1xbet is still "partner" of several big international clubs - I hate the fact they are "global partner" of FC Barcelona...
[my 2 cents]
Can you explain this? its meaning?It means "his opinion"
March 19, 2020, 04:53:12 AM
So yes this could be an idea, be on the first page of the popular search engine, but I don't think it can be a solution to avoid people to get scammed. Nowadays a lot of people get scammed by 1xbet despite there are a lots of scam accusations.
1xbet is a different story than Kawbet. A lot of people use it because it's advertised on coinmarketcap.com. It is understandable that a phishing platform is still used because it is promoted by one of the places with the highest traffic. Of course, the cost of advertising on coinmarketcap.com is not cheap. I haven't seen Kawbet have any similar ads Quote below for reference, it made by you
1xbit is advertised directly in coinmarketcap, look screenshot !
[my 2 cents]
Can you explain this? its meaning? 
March 19, 2020, 03:04:49 AM
@ChuckBuck [my 2 cents]
Very often people that get scammed by a site will make any prior search in google.
So yes this could be an idea, be on the first page of the popular search engine, but I don't think it can be a solution to avoid people to get scammed. Nowadays a lot of people get scammed by 1xbet despite there are a lots of scam accusations.
Very often people that get scammed by a site will make any prior search in google.
So yes this could be an idea, be on the first page of the popular search engine, but I don't think it can be a solution to avoid people to get scammed. Nowadays a lot of people get scammed by 1xbet despite there are a lots of scam accusations.
March 19, 2020, 01:07:07 AM
Maybe find some users who were ripped off by this sportsbetting site and have them open a separate scam accusation for each case. Might help mess with google results.
I don't know if their allegations are effective, for now, this topic is not included in the 1st page results returned on Google when searching Kawbet. It would be better if we could increase the priority of this topic somehow. I'm really not good at this, is increasing interaction on this topic an accurate option? 
March 18, 2020, 04:54:24 PM
Well, they just abandoned their project it seems, meaning we were "successful", no? Too bad there is nothing we can do in order to warn more people. This thread doesnt seem to pop up on first page when googling "kawbet" - I guess I will have to seo OP a bit more. 
Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.
Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.
Just checked it out and it seems like their website is working so means they're back at it ?
Their website has been working all the time and thats actually what I wrote - us having warned people here on bitcointalk doesnt help when it comes to people finding their website via Google.
March 18, 2020, 08:08:21 AM
Well, they just abandoned their project it seems, meaning we were "successful", no? Too bad there is nothing we can do in order to warn more people. This thread doesnt seem to pop up on first page when googling "kawbet" - I guess I will have to seo OP a bit more.
Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.
Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.
Just checked it out and it seems like their website is working so means they're back at it ?
Their website has been working all the time and thats actually what I wrote - us having warned people here on bitcointalk doesnt help when it comes to people finding their website via Google.
March 18, 2020, 08:07:08 AM
Well, they just abandoned their project it seems, meaning we were "successful", no? Too bad there is nothing we can do in order to warn more people. This thread doesnt seem to pop up on first page when googling "kawbet" - I guess I will have to seo OP a bit more.
Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.
Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.
Just checked it out and it seems like their website is working so means they're back at it ?
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