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December 07, 2015, 04:53:58 AM
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Friendly reminder, fix your ios app it doesnt even work, also android last update was in march!

https://timeline.gulden.com
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December 07, 2015, 02:00:30 AM
Friendly reminder, fix your ios app it doesnt even work, also android last update was in march!

The new android wallet is for Gulden, you are looking at guldencoin. It was updated a month ago.
iOS wallet is having sync issues for me but I am getting the same problem with the digibyte iOS wallet.

Waterloodown said there is a new iOS wallet coming last week but must of been delayed.


Yes, indeed, android wallet is here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gulden.androidwallet.nlg
"Updated November 4, 2015"

Regarding iOS. The initial iOS port has been working and ready for a few weeks now with testing ongoing and pending one final extra special feature we want to add for this release.
We are not copy paste developers who just take other peoples code and change a few variables/names without understanding whats going on (like many other coins) but actually take time reading the code to understand what it does, altering the code in such a way that we can actually keep up with new bugs and features from upstream in future, adding new Gulden specific features, testing the code to make sure it works right and improving the code where necessary.
This unfortunately sometimes takes a while, if we wanted to put out garbage we could be a lot faster but we don't Smiley At the same time putting in the extra effort now, means that in future we can keep on putting out new wallets at a much faster pace, so it is extra up from time now to ensure there is not a lot of wasted time in future, development done *right*.

We are also not full time - and have to keep up with our regular full time jobs - and have lost a lot of development time to handle the update after the double spend attack, I personally had to put off my normal work for a day or two so that we could handle that with the appropriate urgency it deserved and while that is fine (I fortunately have the luxury of being able to do that sometimes) it now means I have a backlog of work to catch up on Smiley This is an unfortunate reality for now until we grow to the point where we have a ton of full time developers.

The above said, the new iOS wallet is looking great and will be out real soon (the submission process to Apple will of course take a while), we are really excited for this release and for the future of this wallet once we start making more changes to it. 2016 is going to be an exciting year.
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December 07, 2015, 01:21:31 AM
Friendly reminder, fix your ios app it doesnt even work, also android last update was in march!

The new android wallet is for Gulden, you are looking at guldencoin. It was updated a month ago.
iOS wallet is having sync issues for me but I am getting the same problem with the digibyte iOS wallet.

Waterloodown said there is a new iOS wallet coming last week but must of been delayed.

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December 06, 2015, 09:13:16 PM
A new forum would be a waste of time because you splitting the community. Updating the forum is the only mistake the team has made and this community keeps drilling them for this. Post on here if you don't like the main forum, btctalk is setup so people don't have to use multiple forums to ask questions about a coin.

Why would a new forum, or any forum other than this one and the official one, split up the community?

Personally, Guldenzone has been my catalyst to become a Gulden fan. Hence I fail to see that a new forum would/could have a subtracted value, rather than an added one  Wink

Like many others I only post on here but there does appear to be a problem with community involvement regarding posts on the official forum. This post of yours is 2 days old and not one response.

https://community.gulden.com/t/netwerk-hashrate-multipools-and-other-perils/1366

When Gulden was over 800 in price a few months ago there was a lot more multi pools fighting for blocks, if the price returns to that level again we will see a lot more players on the blockchain.


Yeah, I know...

That link is tied to 2 earlier topics of mine, which both initially enthusiastic received, yet both shot down.

Gulden, besides Bitcoin, is/are my coin(s). I am no trader, I am a miner. For me, I don't care about price. 80 sat, 800 sat, even nearing 1.500 sat, I simply do not care.

Bitcoin is my main. Gulden is my first alt. And on both, I see potential. Much potential. Likewise, I do believe in this community...  Wink
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December 06, 2015, 06:42:00 PM
Friendly reminder, fix your ios app it doesnt even work, also android last update was in march!

ios app and also Nocks ios app will be send again soon for approval by Apple, as founders of Gulden and Nocks company told.  Nocks can be used for buying with Gulden everywhere around the globe where bitcoin is accepted. Also can you use it for paying with bitcoin where Gulden is accepted. First it was needed to form a company to get approval again by Apple. https://nocks.nl/

There have been talks to innovate the android wallet as well later on maybe.
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December 06, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Friendly reminder, fix your ios app it doesnt even work, also android last update was in march!
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December 06, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
The best of all! Better than e-gulden  Cool Cool
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December 06, 2015, 04:19:18 PM
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December 06, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
A new forum would be a waste of time because you splitting the community. Updating the forum is the only mistake the team has made and this community keeps drilling them for this. Post on here if you don't like the main forum, btctalk is setup so people don't have to use multiple forums to ask questions about a coin.

Why would a new forum, or any forum other than this one and the official one, split up the community?

Personally, Guldenzone has been my catalyst to become a Gulden fan. Hence I fail to see that a new forum would/could have a subtracted value, rather than an added one  Wink

Like many others I only post on here but there does appear to be a problem with community involvement regarding posts on the official forum. This post of yours is 2 days old and not one response.

https://community.gulden.com/t/netwerk-hashrate-multipools-and-other-perils/1366

When Gulden was over 800 in price a few months ago there was a lot more multi pools fighting for blocks, if the price returns to that level again we will see a lot more players on the blockchain.
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December 06, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Bitcoin about to break 400 this week and this will push Gulden price to about 300-350. There will be buying opportunity when bitcoin price corrects and Gulden price remains low. Look out for that point to buy bitcoin to get into Gulden.
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December 05, 2015, 11:31:01 AM
What is a good price to get more Gulden ? Everytime I have bought although small amount the price continues to decline. I am not complaining but if price going under 350 I will wait for when it was similar to last year to buy more coins. Coin was low price for a long time in historical graphs.

This currency is great and one of the best around but has been harmed by political strife in the past, both times over forums (Very hard to believe but true).

The price has been on a downward trajectory since the Zone forum shut down as a few community memebers have either left or become silent supporters.

I can't fathom why forums are such an important topic with certain members of the Gulden community as you never see these debates within other communities. Digibytes.community forum is nowhere near as active as btctalk but for Gulden the community forums were active and vocal.

To your question I would buy up as the price continues to go south. I have also decided not to take part in the mining campaign to rather help support the market.
Next year we can only hope a community can be built where a look of a forum is not the main focus but what the coin offers it's users.



I perceive it differently. Neither a forum, nor any users affiliated with Gulden, are debit to it's price. In my experience, whenever the Bitcoin rises in value, non-Bitcoin coins drop in value. And, other way around.

So, yes, Gulden has indeed declined in (abstract) value. Yet, this value, in terms of price, is related to the Bitcoin. Gulden, is a crypto currency that has WAY more bag holders, than that it has miners, of which a good deal comes from pools (and not from dedicated miners).
Yet, in terms of percentages, Gulden has declined far less than the Bitcoin has risen in value; this simply equates that the value/price/etc of Gulden did not decrease, but actually has increased...

Besides that, it is still a given fact that pre-mine has been made available for this community mining to cover expenses for a rough 2/3 of its costs. Based on ALL prior mining experiences thus far, any "package takers" are completely covered, and they most certainly end up with profits...
Unless, unless the Bitcoin drops significant in value (>50%) AND Gulden doesn't rise equally or more; which, I very VERY highly doubt to be a likely scenario (less than 2% probability for this scenario to occur in the upcoming 2 months)....

Gulden has dropped position from the low 40s to mid 50s on coinmarketcap. Other coins have performed better in price but not in real value as Gulden has added more development where other  coins have done nothing.

This can only be attributed to a loss in community. Slack is not a replacement for a forum as I cant browse the discussions taking place. Lots of "guest" users read the forums that don't worry about registering but want to see what is being discussed.

I totally agree. I don't have time to spend in multiple systems. For me at least, coming here to Bitcointalk allows me scan all the forums I participate in as well as some I may be scouting for a buy in or just to see what the competition is up to. It's important to keep this forum up to date. I'm sorry if some of you don't agree but, for my situation at least, that's the way I see it. Besides, gotta spend time keeping those Gulden miners running!  Cheesy

And, a central point of discussion is important for community participation and dissemination of up to date information among regular users and those contemplating taking the plunge.
 
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December 05, 2015, 09:56:10 AM
Do you have some BTC left? Community mining as a Sinterklaas present!
https://community.gulden.com/t/community-mining-ipo-no-limit/1349
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December 05, 2015, 05:05:35 AM

Nice initiative. Great jobs done, Nickle2dime. Smiley
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December 04, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
Gulden has dropped position from the low 40s to mid 50s on coinmarketcap. Other coins have performed better in price but not in real value as Gulden has added more development where other  coins have done nothing.
This can only be attributed to a loss in community. Slack is not a replacement for a forum as I cant browse the discussions taking place. Lots of "guest" users read the forums that don't worry about registering but want to see what is being discussed.

I think that is oversimplifying a bit, to name a few factors I can think of and by no means an exhaustive list:
1) We had an unfortunate (albeit temporary) setback with the iOS wallet and Apple - some investors will be waiting to see the end result here before they commit further, if iOS was important to them.
2) We then had, as you will know, a huge prolonged public fight (over an embarrassingly silly thing) including a reckless and large sell wall and some crazy pump action, this sort of thing does not inspire confidence and it will take some time for the damage of this to be reversed.
3) We then suffered an attack, which while we responded quickly to it is again going to leave some people somewhat demoralised for now.
4) Due to the above our Bittrex wallet was offline for a few days, which again will make traders nervous for a while until they return, especially the cautious ones who aren't following closely what actually goes on with the coin.
5) This coincides also with a slightly 'dry' period for releases/news - which will soon come to an end but is unfortunately timed with all the other things above and also as the dev team had to concentrate on the attack our latest release has been delayed a bit.
6) Then BTC is on the up which makes some people want to hold BTC rather and/or potentially cash out
7) Finally it is the end of the year, which means that people will be spending money on gifts for their loved ones, holidays, and other things, meaning less money to speculate on NLG with.

All of these things and more will be combining right now, and have left everyone a bit tired and demoralised, yet despite that the price actually has held relatively steady. This is actually a good thing.
Over time more news will roll in, great new releases will come out, the forum drama and attacks will become a distant memory, we will enter the new with a renewed energy and carry on forward.

The high BTC price also makes it much easier for coins with very high supply to 'manipulate' there 'market cap' on coinmarketcap - coinmarketcap remains in my opinion one of the absolutely worst indicators to compare currencies based on.


Regarding slack I don't see anyone claiming it is a replacement for forums, they are different, yes they compete to an extent (they are both communication tools) but they do not have a 100% overlap.
Slack is real time, which allows for faster communication, it allows for better bonding, it is a much better place to actually get to know people, form bonds, create friends or partnerships. You will find people casually talking about stuff on Slack that you would never see come up on a forum. It is as a result also a great incubator for ideas and projects and for spontaneous teams to form for these projects. The realtime nature causes people to be themselves and more honest because there is less time to think about replies. People can get instant help. etc. etc.
At the same time forums are also great, they allow much more thought and much slower communication, so they are a good place to have discussions that require lots of thought, they are also a great place for news to go, where people who only check by occasionally can catch up with goings on. To have the sort of discussion that takes place on slack take place on a forum actually undermines the usefulness of a forum, we have over 14k messages in a single week on slack. Imagine coming once a month to check up on a forum and there are 50k messages, where to even begin? (Yes the topics help to an extent but not entirely)

In short they both serve a purpose, at the end of the day people will use what they are comfortable with, and nobody can force them not too, we cannot force people onto the forums just so that people who only read forums do not feel left out, just as we are not forcing anyone onto Slack.
For now there has been a large swing to Slack as clearly it is what people currently prefer (and also because it is new), but I am sure over time and as the project grows, you will see the forums also picking up again, the two will work together to form a better synergy than either can provide alone. And hopefully other mediums like Reddit/Facebook and whatnot will also play a role.

Malcolm hit the nail on the head right here.

His analysis is good and I won't post about this again but there is no denying the first forum and zone forum had much more members posting and getting involved. The one difference with the official forum is there has been less arguments and debates against Rijk and Geert, it is quiet but pleasant.
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December 04, 2015, 08:55:18 AM
Gulden has dropped position from the low 40s to mid 50s on coinmarketcap. Other coins have performed better in price but not in real value as Gulden has added more development where other  coins have done nothing.
This can only be attributed to a loss in community. Slack is not a replacement for a forum as I cant browse the discussions taking place. Lots of "guest" users read the forums that don't worry about registering but want to see what is being discussed.

I think that is oversimplifying a bit, to name a few factors I can think of and by no means an exhaustive list:
1) We had an unfortunate (albeit temporary) setback with the iOS wallet and Apple - some investors will be waiting to see the end result here before they commit further, if iOS was important to them.
2) We then had, as you will know, a huge prolonged public fight (over an embarrassingly silly thing) including a reckless and large sell wall and some crazy pump action, this sort of thing does not inspire confidence and it will take some time for the damage of this to be reversed.
3) We then suffered an attack, which while we responded quickly to it is again going to leave some people somewhat demoralised for now.
4) Due to the above our Bittrex wallet was offline for a few days, which again will make traders nervous for a while until they return, especially the cautious ones who aren't following closely what actually goes on with the coin.
5) This coincides also with a slightly 'dry' period for releases/news - which will soon come to an end but is unfortunately timed with all the other things above and also as the dev team had to concentrate on the attack our latest release has been delayed a bit.
6) Then BTC is on the up which makes some people want to hold BTC rather and/or potentially cash out
7) Finally it is the end of the year, which means that people will be spending money on gifts for their loved ones, holidays, and other things, meaning less money to speculate on NLG with.

All of these things and more will be combining right now, and have left everyone a bit tired and demoralised, yet despite that the price actually has held relatively steady. This is actually a good thing.
Over time more news will roll in, great new releases will come out, the forum drama and attacks will become a distant memory, we will enter the new with a renewed energy and carry on forward.

The high BTC price also makes it much easier for coins with very high supply to 'manipulate' there 'market cap' on coinmarketcap - coinmarketcap remains in my opinion one of the absolutely worst indicators to compare currencies based on.


Regarding slack I don't see anyone claiming it is a replacement for forums, they are different, yes they compete to an extent (they are both communication tools) but they do not have a 100% overlap.
Slack is real time, which allows for faster communication, it allows for better bonding, it is a much better place to actually get to know people, form bonds, create friends or partnerships. You will find people casually talking about stuff on Slack that you would never see come up on a forum. It is as a result also a great incubator for ideas and projects and for spontaneous teams to form for these projects. The realtime nature causes people to be themselves and more honest because there is less time to think about replies. People can get instant help. etc. etc.
At the same time forums are also great, they allow much more thought and much slower communication, so they are a good place to have discussions that require lots of thought, they are also a great place for news to go, where people who only check by occasionally can catch up with goings on. To have the sort of discussion that takes place on slack take place on a forum actually undermines the usefulness of a forum, we have over 14k messages in a single week on slack. Imagine coming once a month to check up on a forum and there are 50k messages, where to even begin? (Yes the topics help to an extent but not entirely)

In short they both serve a purpose, at the end of the day people will use what they are comfortable with, and nobody can force them not too, we cannot force people onto the forums just so that people who only read forums do not feel left out, just as we are not forcing anyone onto Slack.
For now there has been a large swing to Slack as clearly it is what people currently prefer (and also because it is new), but I am sure over time and as the project grows, you will see the forums also picking up again, the two will work together to form a better synergy than either can provide alone. And hopefully other mediums like Reddit/Facebook and whatnot will also play a role.

Malcolm hit the nail on the head right here.
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December 04, 2015, 08:25:07 AM
Gulden has dropped position from the low 40s to mid 50s on coinmarketcap. Other coins have performed better in price but not in real value as Gulden has added more development where other  coins have done nothing.
This can only be attributed to a loss in community. Slack is not a replacement for a forum as I cant browse the discussions taking place. Lots of "guest" users read the forums that don't worry about registering but want to see what is being discussed.

I think that is oversimplifying a bit, to name a few factors I can think of and by no means an exhaustive list:
1) We had an unfortunate (albeit temporary) setback with the iOS wallet and Apple - some investors will be waiting to see the end result here before they commit further, if iOS was important to them.
2) We then had, as you will know, a huge prolonged public fight (over an embarrassingly silly thing) including a reckless and large sell wall and some crazy pump action, this sort of thing does not inspire confidence and it will take some time for the damage of this to be reversed.
3) We then suffered an attack, which while we responded quickly to it is again going to leave some people somewhat demoralised for now.
4) Due to the above our Bittrex wallet was offline for a few days, which again will make traders nervous for a while until they return, especially the cautious ones who aren't following closely what actually goes on with the coin.
5) This coincides also with a slightly 'dry' period for releases/news - which will soon come to an end but is unfortunately timed with all the other things above and also as the dev team had to concentrate on the attack our latest release has been delayed a bit.
6) Then BTC is on the up which makes some people want to hold BTC rather and/or potentially cash out
7) Finally it is the end of the year, which means that people will be spending money on gifts for their loved ones, holidays, and other things, meaning less money to speculate on NLG with.

All of these things and more will be combining right now, and have left everyone a bit tired and demoralised, yet despite that the price actually has held relatively steady. This is actually a good thing.
Over time more news will roll in, great new releases will come out, the forum drama and attacks will become a distant memory, we will enter the new year with a renewed energy and carry on forward.

The high BTC price also makes it much easier for coins with very high supply to 'manipulate' there 'market cap' on coinmarketcap - coinmarketcap remains in my opinion one of the absolutely worst indicators to compare currencies based on.


Regarding slack I don't see anyone claiming it is a replacement for forums, they are different, yes they compete to an extent (they are both communication tools) but they do not have a 100% overlap.
Slack is real time, which allows for faster communication, it allows for better bonding, it is a much better place to actually get to know people, form bonds, create friends or partnerships. You will find people casually talking about stuff on Slack that you would never see come up on a forum. It is as a result also a great incubator for ideas and projects and for spontaneous teams to form for these projects. The realtime nature causes people to be themselves and more honest because there is less time to think about replies. People can get instant help. etc. etc.
At the same time forums are also great, they allow much more thought and much slower communication, so they are a good place to have discussions that require lots of thought, they are also a great place for news to go, where people who only check by occasionally can catch up with goings on. To have the sort of discussion that takes place on slack take place on a forum actually undermines the usefulness of a forum, we have over 14k messages in a single week on slack. Imagine coming once a month to check up on a forum and there are 50k messages, where to even begin? (Yes the topics help to an extent but not entirely)

In short they both serve a purpose, at the end of the day people will use what they are comfortable with, and nobody can force them not too, we cannot force people onto the forums just so that people who only read forums do not feel left out, just as we are not forcing anyone onto Slack.
For now there has been a large swing to Slack as clearly it is what people currently prefer (and also because it is new), but I am sure over time and as the project grows, you will see the forums also picking up again, the two will work together to form a better synergy than either can provide alone. And hopefully other mediums like Reddit/Facebook and whatnot will also play a role.
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December 04, 2015, 07:35:11 AM
Gulden has dropped position from the low 40s to mid 50s on coinmarketcap. Other coins have performed better in price but not in real value as Gulden has added more development where other  coins have done nothing.

This can only be attributed to a loss in community. Slack is not a replacement for a forum as I cant browse the discussions taking place. Lots of "guest" users read the forums that don't worry about registering but want to see what is being discussed.

I'm not so sure on that... Around the time Guldenzone pulled the plug, Gulden had a momentum. There was also that investor who wanted to hold like around 40 BTC worth in Gulden. Likely, back then, those combined has had Gulden pushed upwards. Besides, crypto's are quite volatile. Added to that, when the Bitcoin gets a hiccup, it ripples through on the crypto market.
Who knows, perhaps it might just as well that everything is just leveling out now  Wink

I do certainly agree a forum has its advantages. Like you said, browsing though discussions for example. I miss that stuff. If you're not keeping up on BCT, it's a pain in the ar*e to do so right here. Guldenzone was more active than the official, and most of the time even this one. That on it's own says something...
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