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legendary
Activity: 980
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August 07, 2014, 03:01:48 PM
Please confirm what the final plan for the IPO is, this does mean I won't be buying on the exchanges for the next month as I will be contributing to the iOS wallet. So expect volumes to die out while everyone is giving funds towards this.

400 packages of 10.000 Guldencoin will be sold at 0.017 BTC per package. The original plan as stated here: https://guldencoin.com/guldencoin-ios-community-funding
sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 02:29:02 PM
Please confirm what the final plan for the IPO is, this does mean I won't be buying on the exchanges for the next month as I will be contributing to the iOS wallet. So expect volumes to die out while everyone is giving funds towards this.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
August 07, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
Guldencoin!

Heard from it some time ago bot didn't really bother looking at it.
But as a Dutch native I respect people still caring about the Gulden!

Welcome Kuusj, Smiley

Please feel free to join the community on http://guldencoinforum.com/, also a lot of updates happening there.
sr. member
Activity: 435
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 11:32:52 AM
I think it's important to understand that the goal is not to sell the developer premine. The goal is to gather funds so we can pay this iOS developer to create an awesome iOS wallet.  I for one would be most happy if we as a community could raise this money without having to sell any coins from the dev premine at all. The goal is an iOS wallet. If you want to buy coins: they're cheaper at bittrex.

Having said that, I do agree with this method to get funds in exchange for NLG as it might be more effective and fast. It's just that I would just be more happy if we could all donate (crowd funding) so we keep more dev premine coins in stash and use them  at a later stage.

If you wish to donate BTC or EUR, please contact us per mail or post here on the forum.

Now, I am lost. So, what is happening now ?
The first idea with the 400 packages at 170 sat is great ! Is it still actual ?
We stick with the first idea. 400 Packages at 170 sat. What GJ means that it's always possible to donate and that the goal is an iOS wallet, not just selling development premine. Tomorrow we will start taking payments and the good news is that we've already received some requests through the website.
Okay, thanks for the info !  Cheesy...Great news !
And, again, amazing job  Wink
sr. member
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August 07, 2014, 11:14:37 AM
I'm am willing to donate in BTC, EUR or NLG but it's not a huge amount something like 50 Euro also would buy at 170 Sat if you prefer.
But I don't know how many people would buy above market price even though it's for a good cause. Most people at sometime want ROI.
It would be a very cool use of the dev premine . Cool

even if it is a single euro donation is donation and it will surely help the coin.
sr. member
Activity: 393
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 10:54:56 AM
I'm am willing to donate in BTC, EUR or NLG but it's not a huge amount something like 50 Euro also would buy at 170 Sat if you prefer.
But I don't know how many people would buy above market price even though it's for a good cause. Most people at sometime want ROI.
It would be a very cool use of the dev premine . Cool
sr. member
Activity: 435
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 10:48:10 AM
I think it's important to understand that the goal is not to sell the developer premine. The goal is to gather funds so we can pay this iOS developer to create an awesome iOS wallet.  I for one would be most happy if we as a community could raise this money without having to sell any coins from the dev premine at all. The goal is an iOS wallet. If you want to buy coins: they're cheaper at bittrex.

Having said that, I do agree with this method to get funds in exchange for NLG as it might be more effective and fast. It's just that I would just be more happy if we could all donate (crowd funding) so we keep more dev premine coins in stash and use them  at a later stage.

If you wish to donate BTC or EUR, please contact us per mail or post here on the forum.

Now, I am lost. So, what is happening now ?
The first idea with the 400 packages at 170 sat is great ! Is it still actual ?
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
August 07, 2014, 10:42:35 AM
I think it's important to understand that the goal is not to sell the developer premine. The goal is to gather funds so we can pay this iOS developer to create an awesome iOS wallet.  I for one would be most happy if we as a community could raise this money without having to sell any coins from the dev premine at all. The goal is an iOS wallet. If you want to buy coins: they're cheaper at bittrex.

Having said that, I do agree with this method to get funds in exchange for NLG as it might be more effective and fast. It's just that I would just be more happy if we could all donate (crowd funding) so we keep more dev premine coins in stash and use them  at a later stage.

If you wish to donate BTC or EUR, please contact us per mail or post here on the forum.

Is there some kind of 'mission statement' for the purpose of the pre-mined NLG?  I understand some portion of the 170,000,000 NLG is dedicated to distribution to dutch citizens, are there any other details?   When I saw the post this morning I thought to myself 'what a great use of the pre-mine!'. 

Respectfully --Mark

sr. member
Activity: 409
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 09:39:58 AM
I think it's important to understand that the goal is not to sell the developer premine. The goal is to gather funds so we can pay this iOS developer to create an awesome iOS wallet.  I for one would be most happy if we as a community could raise this money without having to sell any coins from the dev premine at all. The goal is an iOS wallet. If you want to buy coins: they're cheaper at bittrex.

Having said that, I do agree with this method to get funds in exchange for NLG as it might be more effective and fast. It's just that I would just be more happy if we could all donate (crowd funding) so we keep more dev premine coins in stash and use them  at a later stage.

If you wish to donate BTC or EUR, please contact us per mail or post here on the forum.
hero member
Activity: 637
Merit: 500
August 07, 2014, 09:13:23 AM
I don't agree. This is a fair price with a responsible amount of the pre-mine sold. Why sell more of the pre-mine when you can do it like this and keep a lot left for future projects. 2 million pre-mine with a rising price will surely get us even more exposure and possibilties than if we spend 6 million now to get the same result we can with 4 million.

We've had a rate of 179 satoshi for a short time before on Bittrex and Bleutrade and that was without all these merchants we have now or even an iOS wallet to talk about.

A 113 or even 130 satoshi does not a logical 'IPO' make. For 0.017BTC you get 10.000 NLG to fund a project that will have so much impact, I don't see why we would change the price of this funding project. And a hefty profit can surely be made.  Cheesy


I do agree there will be profits to be made, damn this coin should already be trading above 170 as it is but it seems people haven't woken up to the coin yet.

My suggestion is, do 2 IPOs. 1 Cheaper one to get the deposit arranged quickly so your dev can start.
Then for 2nd IPO you have a lot of time to raise capital before the dev completes the work. Price of NLG also might go up then, as people start pumping the price in anticipation for first wallet.

Those that dig into there pockets now should be rewarded.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
August 07, 2014, 08:58:21 AM
I don't agree. This is a fair price with a responsible amount of the pre-mine sold. Why sell more of the pre-mine when you can do it like this and keep a lot left for future projects. 2 million pre-mine with a rising price will surely get us even more exposure and possibilties than if we spend 6 million now to get the same result we can with 4 million.

We've had a rate of 179 satoshi for a short time before on Bittrex and Bleutrade and that was without all these merchants we have now or even an iOS wallet to talk about.

A 113 or even 130 satoshi does not a logical 'IPO' make. For 0.017BTC you get 10.000 NLG to fund a project that will have so much impact, I don't see why we would change the price of this funding project. And a hefty profit can surely be made.  Cheesy
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
August 07, 2014, 08:58:13 AM
Whilst I get the idea of selling only 4m NLG, if you were to put up 6m at 113 SAT each, you're a LOT closer to the current market price, and you'll get your BTC in no time.

I would worry about how many will want to spend out BTC that much over the going market rate - even though it's for the greater good.

Agree.  70%-80% mark up is a tough sell.  At 113 satoshi you'll raise the BTC quick.  If we do 600 packages of 10.000 NLG each package, I'll purchase the first 100 packages today and you can give a down payment to the developer to get him going.  I'll keep it in cold storage until the Eurocup betting starts up in 2016 on nlgcup.com. Smiley Will post the guldencoin address once received if anyone wants to track it, it's not going anywhere.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
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August 07, 2014, 08:48:59 AM
Guldencoin!

Heard from it some time ago bot didn't really bother looking at it.
But as a Dutch native I respect people still caring about the Gulden!
hero member
Activity: 637
Merit: 500
August 07, 2014, 08:44:50 AM
Whilst I get the idea of selling only 4m NLG, if you were to put up 6m at 113 SAT each, you're a LOT closer to the current market price, and you'll get your BTC in no time.

I would worry about how many will want to spend out BTC that much over the going market rate - even though it's for the greater good.

^^ this would be better Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 08:40:19 AM
Whilst I get the idea of selling only 4m NLG, if you were to put up 6m at 113 SAT each, you're a LOT closer to the current market price, and you'll get your BTC in no time.

I would worry about how many will want to spend out BTC that much over the going market rate - even though it's for the greater good.
hero member
Activity: 637
Merit: 500
August 07, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
Doesn't the developer want one half in NLG and the other half in Euro?

I was going to ask the same thing. Smiley

EDIT: I am willing to give 1btc at 130 Sat rate, if this is acceptable I will arrange for this by monday, it's still 30% more then current market value.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
August 07, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
Doesn't the developer want one half in NLG and the other half in Euro?
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
August 07, 2014, 07:33:08 AM
I am completely OK with this entire thing. Great price and will put us even more on the map, both with traders, miners and merchants and users. Full circle people. Full circle.  Cheesy

I think this is the best use of a premine I have ever seen and just shows if a premine is used right it can contribute a lot. I will contribute towards this as I believe it can only be a good thing!

What other development needs to be done in order for the team and community to focus more time on merchants?
Well of course development is never done and we are working on many projects, so that wont change. But I think we can all agree that an iOS wallet is necessary for real use in the Netherlands. From our own experience and we've had a lot of talks with businesses in Amsterdam, the big question is always: Alright how can my customers pay?

It looks like a iOS wallet must be difficult to make as I tried seeing if other coins have one and they don't, would it not be better for another coin to make one and we just copy it because they will just copy our iOS wallet and we spent the money paying for it.
We've investigated all possible options for the last weeks and breadwallet is the most secure and userfriendly wallet, however there is no other scrypt coin that uses it, so we have to make it ourselves. With that in mind we've contacted more than 30 iOS developers and received offers from 4000 up to 12000 euro. Then we got in touch with an iOS dev from the Netherlands who is very interested in our project and crypto in general and he is willing to build this for 3000 euro.

The iOS wallet for NLG will also be branded for us so any coin copying the iOS wallet would have a lot of work to do. Also if we had to copy another coins iOS wallet it would still cost quite a bit.
Potentially being the 1st altcoin to have a standalone iOS wallet we will make crypto history even for scrypt and will get the coin much deserved attention.

We also have 1 merchant that will accept us straight away for having a iOS wallet and this is a merchant you really want in the Netherlands. So there is a lot at stake and I personally believe will have a positive effect on the price and we can always boast about having the first scrypt iOS wallet.

With the above being said the most important thing for us is to speed up merchant adoption especially going into the last 1/4 of this year. A iOS wallet will give us a full suite of tools to move forward with NLG.


sr. member
Activity: 407
Merit: 250
August 07, 2014, 07:05:54 AM
I am completely OK with this entire thing. Great price and will put us even more on the map, both with traders, miners and merchants and users. Full circle people. Full circle.  Cheesy

I think this is the best use of a premine I have ever seen and just shows if a premine is used right it can contribute a lot. I will contribute towards this as I believe it can only be a good thing!

What other development needs to be done in order for the team and community to focus more time on merchants?
Well of course development is never done and we are working on many projects, so that wont change. But I think we can all agree that an iOS wallet is necessary for real use in the Netherlands. From our own experience and we've had a lot of talks with businesses in Amsterdam, the big question is always: Alright how can my customers pay?

It looks like a iOS wallet must be difficult to make as I tried seeing if other coins have one and they don't, would it not be better for another coin to make one and we just copy it because they will just copy our iOS wallet and we spent the money paying for it.
hero member
Activity: 502
Merit: 500
August 07, 2014, 05:39:59 AM
I am completely OK with this entire thing. Great price and will put us even more on the map, both with traders, miners and merchants and users. Full circle people. Full circle.  Cheesy

I think this is the best use of a premine I have ever seen and just shows if a premine is used right it can contribute a lot. I will contribute towards this as I believe it can only be a good thing!

What other development needs to be done in order for the team and community to focus more time on merchants and business?
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