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legendary
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July 30, 2020, 09:30:24 PM
#26
Righto, I was mixing info from multiple threads. So that makes it easier because I potentially empathized with people who may have needed to fight for a refund for whatever reason.  Who cares if the site states the USD price? If you go to place an order and they're using an exchange rate you don't like, don't buy it. If the ticker was stuck, using an exchange rate you don't like, or whatever else, you could have not bought it and moved on, or requested an updated total, etc. How is it any different from having a sales thread where you say you're selling a camera for $700 and then when someone decides to take you up on it, you look up the BTC price and give them a BTC address and total? There was a thread where OGNasty said they were selling a coin for $1750, so they converted that to BTC and posted it on the site. OGnasty may have used an autoupdating ticker, or maybe done it manually? Regardless, the solution to your problem was pretty minor.




you have missed the point.

in the big picture what it is priced in can and often will affect how you get refunded. Take bitmain for example, you pay them 2600 in btc for a miner based on the exchange at that moment because they price it in USD not btc - they convert it yes. If you get a refund, which is rare - but I did get once - and even though I paid in bitcoin, and was refunded in bitcoin, the amount I got back was based on USD value of bitcoin at that time.

so whether something is priced in btc or usd matters when there has to be conversions.
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July 30, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
#25
Righto, I was mixing info from multiple threads. So that makes it easier because I potentially empathized with people who may have needed to fight for a refund for whatever reason.  Who cares if the site states the USD price? If you go to place an order and they're using an exchange rate you don't like, don't buy it. If the ticker was stuck, using an exchange rate you don't like, or whatever else, you could have not bought it and moved on, or requested an updated total, etc. How is it any different from having a sales thread where you say you're selling a camera for $700 and then when someone decides to take you up on it, you look up the BTC price and give them a BTC address and total? There was a thread where OGNasty said they were selling a coin for $1750, so they converted that to BTC and posted it on the site. OGnasty may have used an autoupdating ticker, or maybe done it manually? Regardless, the solution to your problem was pretty minor.


legendary
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July 30, 2020, 08:28:31 PM
#24
Not my thread.  I was just clarifying some things if you read the entire thread. Wink



Yeah I was addressing the OP

the OP that I made - is simply about the listing of the coins - He closed the other thread without addressing the question. He basically said anyone that thinks his items are priced in BTC is ignorant and that everything is priced in USD.

I have looked at the site many times - even copied 100% of the sites text into the OP - there is nothing about the coins being priced in USD --- all the pricing simply states is the BTC cost.

As gold rose in value over the past few weeks, the prices never changed they did not change to match the increased USD value.

I am not making any such claim against a refund or about the refund process, so there is no dilution here.
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 07:40:01 PM
#23
Not my thread.  I was just clarifying some things if you read the entire thread. Wink



Yeah I was addressing the OP
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
#22
No offense, but while you may have a valid claim about the refund process, complaining about whether they have their prices set in USD or BTC is kind diluting whatever claims you make. Why does it matter in the slightest whether they have their asking price pinned to USD or BTC? Was there an issue where you paid in BTC and your refund wasn't the same amount in BTC? If I decide to sell a coin and pin it to crude oil, but accept X barrels worth converted to BTC, who cares? Now, if there was an issue where you paid BTC and got refunded a different amount, fair enough.

(I did get my coin I ordered, and I also asked ahead of time before ordering because the thread said that quantities were limited and they updated quantities on saturday)

Not my thread.  I was just clarifying some things if you read the entire thread. Wink

legendary
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July 30, 2020, 07:18:09 PM
#21
No offense, but while you may have a valid claim about the refund process, complaining about whether they have their prices set in USD or BTC is kind diluting whatever claims you make. Why does it matter in the slightest whether they have their asking price pinned to USD or BTC? Was there an issue where you paid in BTC and your refund wasn't the same amount in BTC? If I decide to sell a coin and pin it to crude oil, but accept X barrels worth converted to BTC, who cares? Now, if there was an issue where you paid BTC and got refunded a different amount, fair enough.

(I did get my coin I ordered, and I also asked ahead of time before ordering because the thread said that quantities were limited and they updated quantities on saturday)
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 05:47:05 PM
#20
I was asking him to clarify the statement.

Good luck with that.  Roll Eyes


Priced in Bitcoin and based on USD @ the time of listing viewing is perhaps more accurate?  

So it should say exactly that then, amirite? Tongue
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
#19
My understanding is that things are priced at the time they are listed. 

The dude got his Bitcoins refunded the same day... I don't understand the issue?

I had a friend receive some gold under spot from this deal.  OG delivers.

The "dudes" (plural) had to jump through hoops to get the refund the next day.  Make accurate statements when talking about this "dude" please.  I was blown off initially by Og as MJ reached out to him with my proof of purchase.  Was told to reach out to a member who hadn't been active in over a month.  Only after I made the public thread did things get moving and initially I was told by the other member "nonnakip" to wait 4 days to refund my bits.  Again, please be accurate.

....and I'm glad OG delivered for your friend.  Woohoo!!  He did not for tothemoonsands and myself. Roll Eyes

legendary
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July 30, 2020, 03:23:00 PM
#18
Priced in Bitcoin and based on USD @ the time of listing is perhaps more accurate? 

perhaps but with nothing on the site to state this - with only a btc price showing, one would think that it is priced in BTC.

I just think the fact that calling everyone ignorant if they "think otherwise" is misplaced when there is nothing on the site that states it and the fact that the prices did not change for at least two weeks as many others have posted that were watching the prices of the coins in reference to the rise in gold prices.

and others that post here - while they may be active and even beneficial to these forums - quite a few have grudges with one another - which I guess is expected in any given societal group.
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July 30, 2020, 03:10:55 PM
#17
Priced in Bitcoin and based on USD @ the time of listing is perhaps more accurate? 
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 02:28:42 PM
#16
My understanding is that things are priced at the time they are listed.  

The dude got his Bitcoins refunded the same day... I don't understand the issue?

I had a friend receive some gold under spot from this deal.  OG delivers.

I posted this simply for the clarification on pricing - OG stated that all items are priced in USD and anyone saying otherwise was wrong - I do not see anywhere on the entire site one item priced in USD. All I see is a BTC  price tag.

I was asking him to clarify the statement.

as for the two that were waiting for refunds, not sure how long they waited but this thread and post should have nothing to do with that issue.
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 02:16:13 PM
#15
My understanding is that things are priced at the time they are listed.  

The dude got his Bitcoins refunded the same day... I don't understand the issue?

I had a friend receive some gold under spot from this deal.  OG delivers.
legendary
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July 30, 2020, 12:21:35 PM
#14
He only had 1 left in stock, you can see that because weeks ago he said not to order multiples. I would assume the reason he said not to order multiples was because there was only 1

Right. So random people visiting would totally know that because they read your garbage posts. Roll Eyes

Edit - I honestly think the only reason you stand up for him is that you are afraid not to. LOL. Cheesy

My posts you mean Ogs post.


Last time I checked I was the one who tried to put together a FU OG coin but nobody would preorder them with escrow

Last time I checked, you were behaving like an idiot.
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July 29, 2020, 11:07:54 PM
#13
He only had 1 left in stock, you can see that because weeks ago he said not to order multiples. I would assume the reason he said not to order multiples was because there was only 1

Right. So random people visiting would totally know that because they read your garbage posts. Roll Eyes

Edit - I honestly think the only reason you stand up for him is that you are afraid not to. LOL. Cheesy

My posts you mean Ogs post.


Last time I checked I was the one who tried to put together a FU OG coin but nobody would preorder them with escrow
legendary
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July 29, 2020, 07:31:20 PM
#12
I think it should definetly say USD value and then - btc price.... Leaving too many doors open with that one for my taste and you one of the three users in my trust list since I haven't understood any accusation from the past and I thought you might of been treated unfair.
legendary
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July 29, 2020, 06:26:03 PM
#11
He only had 1 left in stock, you can see that because weeks ago he said not to order multiples. I would assume the reason he said not to order multiples was because there was only 1

Right. So random people visiting would totally know that because they read your garbage posts. Roll Eyes

Edit - I honestly think the only reason you stand up for him is that you are afraid not to. LOL. Cheesy
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July 29, 2020, 04:23:18 PM
#10
At the minimum the refunds were too slow.

I have a question did anyone buy one on the cheap?

Or did everyone get a sorry we are sold out.

I see 2 needed and got slow refunds.

I do wonder if anyone placed an order on that day and got one.

@ Og    you could have handled this a little better than you did.

He only had 1 left in stock, you can see that because weeks ago he said not to order multiples. I would assume the reason he said not to order multiples was because there was only 1
legendary
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July 29, 2020, 02:31:35 PM
#9
At the minimum the refunds were too slow.

I have a question did anyone buy one on the cheap?

Or did everyone get a sorry we are sold out.

I see 2 needed and got slow refunds.

I do wonder if anyone placed an order on that day and got one.

@ Og    you could have handled this a little better than you did.
legendary
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July 29, 2020, 10:59:47 AM
#8
if the shown prices are not USD then it is not priced in USD... instead they are estimating a USD value to equivalent BTC and displaying the BTC - that is pricing in BTC not USD


Pricing in btc would mean the btc price never changes.

not exactly. btc prices can change as well - the point is that they had not changed for a while and there is no where on the site that says the prices are based on USD

if going to price in USD then show the USD price and then convert it to BTC -- similar to the way Bitmain does it for the miners - it is not rocket science.
legendary
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July 29, 2020, 10:57:40 AM
#7


Are you upset you couldn't buy an ounce of gold for 1750 when market price was 1850?  

Yes.... the site should be maintained better.


if the shown prices are not USD then it is not priced in USD... instead they are estimating a USD value to equivalent BTC and displaying the BTC - that is pricing in BTC not USD


Pricing in btc would mean the btc price never changes.

...and it wasn't moving for at least 2 weeks. Roll Eyes
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