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August 21, 2023, 07:54:03 AM
#39
Ruzzia has choosen a path that is likely to lead it to a lower stance in the world and a reduced influence even at regional level. The war with Ukraine is sucking up armament at a pace that simply cannot be sustained, so regardless of the territorial and economic result of the war, Russia will have an army that is a shadow of what it was, including the reputation.
Don't be silly, Russia will come out of this conflict much stronger than it was before. The mass experience of using unmanned aerial vehicles alone is worth something. Armies around the world are now carefully studying the Ukrainian conflict, trying to learn valuable lessons from it, but the experience gained in practice is much more effective than any theory.
the fact is both country have suffered and lost a lot in this on going war hundred of Russia soldiers and Ukraine civilian have been killed Russia itself has been plunged into isolation never before experience by an economy of such size. Despite an initial battle plan Russia has not been able to capture some of the major cities but Ukraine who are currently facing tougher challenge in recruiting as the war with Russia has entered a brutal phase I think the main goal become the libration of Donbas .
I don't believe both have suffered hough they might share some common issues  but what you see out there is media broadcast.  I'm not supporting  Russia though but what do you think it's happening there's something cooking but someone having upper hand with the other having upper hand in media as result of some cookings as have said earlier . With the ongoing war Russia created a new way of carrying out their trade since there's be some secretive war ongoing too .
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August 18, 2023, 04:28:40 PM
#38

Russia took advantage of the sanctions, and now there is a new gas pipeline between Russia and China... cementing relations between them somewhat. Also, Russia is opening up all kinds of new roads to trade with many countries around the world... oil and grain to India for example.

In addition, there are loads of countries who want to join BRICS.

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To sum it all , the Russian situation is the type that you say a closed door means there are other access you can open. Before now, Russia and China didn't have that strong bond of trade even though they traded but not as it is now as China tops the list of foreign partner with Russia, Turkey and Belarus are also partners.  China supply the highest numbers of cars, telephone, computer, technological equipment while the major supply of Russia to China is crude oil

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August 18, 2023, 02:00:10 PM
#37
I get your point OP. But isn't also normal for the other superpower nations? I am referring to China and the US.
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August 18, 2023, 12:09:53 PM
#36
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As you say, I think that there are two sides to the coin. But I probably don't mean it in the same way that you do.

People in the US government and military aren't that stupid... not all of them. The sanctions have helped Russia. Russia is developing worldwide contacts and trade it never would have if the sanctions hadn't been initiated. But the US idea of the sanctions was to weaken or destroy Russia. Total backfire... it seems. So, when you look at the bigger picture, it seems like the sanctions were really set in place to make Russia stronger.

The point? Who is really running the world show? Whoever it is, Russia and the US are two sides of the same coin.

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Russian could have developed those economical and diplomatic connections without the senseless attack against a country and it's people, by the way.

In the end, Russia and any other country is supposed to be free to make deals and treaties with other countries or their choice, for the development of their own people's standard of living. So, the hardening on the economy cannot be an excuse or part of an excuse to support war between neighbors.

Also, even if Russia manages to find new clients for the gas and raw materials they export, being ilosated from much of the rest market can be harmful to any nation, not matter what plans they have in the mid term.

The so-called attack by Russia was simply a counter-attack against Ukraine. Now, I would agree that there have been mixed relations between Russia and Ukraine for ages.

If a country wants to increase its international trade structure, what does it do? It figures out how to trade with the US and Western Europe. This is what Russia was trying to do before the sanctions. Why waste time developing trade with countries who are not as beneficial to your trade as the US is? No need to develop deep trade relations with other countries when the US is there to trade with.

Part if not all of the reason why the US started war with Russia (even though it was a covert war) was that Russia was increasing its world trade faster than the US was. And by trading with the US, Russia was outstripping even the US in some ways. This was something that the US couldn't take, because it was exactly the thing that the US was trying to do to Russia. The sanctions were just about the only way (outside of the covert Ukraine war) to stop Russian trade... or so they thought.

Russia took advantage of the sanctions, and now there is a new gas pipeline between Russia and China... cementing relations between them somewhat. Also, Russia is opening up all kinds of new roads to trade with many countries around the world... oil and grain to India for example.

In addition, there are loads of countries who want to join BRICS.

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August 18, 2023, 11:33:37 AM
#35
Reading through the comments, some people think Russia made a mistake getting involved in the Ukraine conflict and will regret it later. But we can't be sure about that. If the US and UK were in Russia's place, they might take stronger actions, or they might not. The situation is complicated and hard to predict.

Yes, Russia made a big mistake when it decided to restore the USSR within its former borders. The time of empires has passed, and the Russian Empire is facing its inevitable end.

I think there are two sides to the coin likewise the story of Russia and US on Ukraine. I don't think Russia was going for the reunion of the old Soviet Union and of course that won't be possible but the interest of both world powers are barely political at the expense of the Ukrainian soil. Ukraine has not known peace ever since they wanted to join NATO and US as the big man of NATO trying to advocate for freedom of association maybe be for other reasons though. About the losses, well people actually thought Russia would have given up because of the economic sanctions but that is not helping because I read somewhere that even US gets above 13% of her uranium from Russia.

As you say, I think that there are two sides to the coin. But I probably don't mean it in the same way that you do.

People in the US government and military aren't that stupid... not all of them. The sanctions have helped Russia. Russia is developing worldwide contacts and trade it never would have if the sanctions hadn't been initiated. But the US idea of the sanctions was to weaken or destroy Russia. Total backfire... it seems. So, when you look at the bigger picture, it seems like the sanctions were really set in place to make Russia stronger.

The point? Who is really running the world show? Whoever it is, Russia and the US are two sides of the same coin.

Cool

Russian could have developed those economical and diplomatic connections without the senseless attack against a country and it's people, by the way.

In the end, Russia and any other country is supposed to be free to make deals and treaties with other countries or their choice, for the development of their own people's standard of living. So, the hardening on the economy cannot be an excuse or part of an excuse to support war between neighbors.

Also, even if Russia manages to find new clients for the gas and raw materials they export, being ilosated from much of the rest market can be harmful to any nation, not matter what plans they have in the mid term.
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August 18, 2023, 11:20:02 AM
#34
Reading through the comments, some people think Russia made a mistake getting involved in the Ukraine conflict and will regret it later. But we can't be sure about that. If the US and UK were in Russia's place, they might take stronger actions, or they might not. The situation is complicated and hard to predict.

Yes, Russia made a big mistake when it decided to restore the USSR within its former borders. The time of empires has passed, and the Russian Empire is facing its inevitable end.

I think there are two sides to the coin likewise the story of Russia and US on Ukraine. I don't think Russia was going for the reunion of the old Soviet Union and of course that won't be possible but the interest of both world powers are barely political at the expense of the Ukrainian soil. Ukraine has not known peace ever since they wanted to join NATO and US as the big man of NATO trying to advocate for freedom of association maybe be for other reasons though. About the losses, well people actually thought Russia would have given up because of the economic sanctions but that is not helping because I read somewhere that even US gets above 13% of her uranium from Russia.

As you say, I think that there are two sides to the coin. But I probably don't mean it in the same way that you do.

People in the US government and military aren't that stupid... not all of them. The sanctions have helped Russia. Russia is developing worldwide contacts and trade it never would have if the sanctions hadn't been initiated. But the US idea of the sanctions was to weaken or destroy Russia. Total backfire... it seems. So, when you look at the bigger picture, it seems like the sanctions were really set in place to make Russia stronger.

The point? Who is really running the world show? Whoever it is, Russia and the US are two sides of the same coin.

Cool
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August 18, 2023, 04:55:36 AM
#33
Reading through the comments, some people think Russia made a mistake getting involved in the Ukraine conflict and will regret it later. But we can't be sure about that. If the US and UK were in Russia's place, they might take stronger actions, or they might not. The situation is complicated and hard to predict.

Yes, Russia made a big mistake when it decided to restore the USSR within its former borders. The time of empires has passed, and the Russian Empire is facing its inevitable end.

I think there are two sides to the coin likewise the story of Russia and US on Ukraine. I don't think Russia was going for the reunion of the old Soviet Union and of course that won't be possible but the interest of both world powers are barely political at the expense of the Ukrainian soil. Ukraine has not known peace ever since they wanted to join NATO and US as the big man of NATO trying to advocate for freedom of association maybe be for other reasons though. About the losses, well people actually thought Russia would have given up because of the economic sanctions but that is not helping because I read somewhere that even US gets above 13% of her uranium from Russia.
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August 18, 2023, 03:43:03 AM
#32
Ruzzia has choosen a path that is likely to lead it to a lower stance in the world and a reduced influence even at regional level. The war with Ukraine is sucking up armament at a pace that simply cannot be sustained, so regardless of the territorial and economic result of the war, Russia will have an army that is a shadow of what it was, including the reputation.
Don't be silly, Russia will come out of this conflict much stronger than it was before. The mass experience of using unmanned aerial vehicles alone is worth something. Armies around the world are now carefully studying the Ukrainian conflict, trying to learn valuable lessons from it, but the experience gained in practice is much more effective than any theory.
the fact is both country have suffered and lost a lot in this on going war hundred of Russia soldiers and Ukraine civilian have been killed Russia itself has been plunged into isolation never before experience by an economy of such size. Despite an initial battle plan Russia has not been able to capture some of the major cities but Ukraine who are currently facing tougher challenge in recruiting as the war with Russia has entered a brutal phase I think the main goal become the libration of Donbas .
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August 18, 2023, 01:56:49 AM
#31
Reading through the comments, some people think Russia made a mistake getting involved in the Ukraine conflict and will regret it later. But we can't be sure about that. If the US and UK were in Russia's place, they might take stronger actions, or they might not. The situation is complicated and hard to predict.

Yes, Russia made a big mistake when it decided to restore the USSR within its former borders. The time of empires has passed, and the Russian Empire is facing its inevitable end.
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August 18, 2023, 12:18:20 AM
#30
Reading through the comments, some people think Russia made a mistake getting involved in the Ukraine conflict and will regret it later. But we can't be sure about that. If the US and UK were in Russia's place, they might take stronger actions, or they might not. The situation is complicated and hard to predict.
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August 18, 2023, 12:06:50 AM
#29

Thanks. All these accusations against Putin, and almost 100% no proof. Not even evidence when you consider situations in Russia and Ukraine.

That's a lot of pages you have up on your websites. Are you that fast of a typist? Or how many people do you have working with you?


Cool

Most of Russia's crimes are organized by the bandit Putin. The fact that this murderer is awaiting a tribunal and a gallows is beyond doubt. According to your approach, there is no evidence for Hitler either. However, there is no doubt that if Hitler were arrested, then he would hang next to other criminals. The same will happen with the Russian international terrorists led by Putin. There will be retribution for evil, this is how the world works.

You are more or less correct in that... no evidence for Hitler, either. But, to keep it in context, almost no evidence if you wrote it the way you write about Putin.

Maybe somebody has evidence for how bad Putin is. But there is evidence for the good, as well. One BIG chunk of evidence is that Putin has held off regarding nukes, even though the US is straining to goad him into using them. Putin wants peace and prosperity for the world rather than destruction for the peoples of the world.

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And Hitler also wanted peace, Putin is not the first in this desire. He said that Russia has no borders.
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August 17, 2023, 08:26:57 PM
#28

Thanks. All these accusations against Putin, and almost 100% no proof. Not even evidence when you consider situations in Russia and Ukraine.

That's a lot of pages you have up on your websites. Are you that fast of a typist? Or how many people do you have working with you?


Cool

Most of Russia's crimes are organized by the bandit Putin. The fact that this murderer is awaiting a tribunal and a gallows is beyond doubt. According to your approach, there is no evidence for Hitler either. However, there is no doubt that if Hitler were arrested, then he would hang next to other criminals. The same will happen with the Russian international terrorists led by Putin. There will be retribution for evil, this is how the world works.

You are more or less correct in that... no evidence for Hitler, either. But, to keep it in context, almost no evidence if you wrote it the way you write about Putin.

Maybe somebody has evidence for how bad Putin is. But there is evidence for the good, as well. One BIG chunk of evidence is that Putin has held off regarding nukes, even though the US is straining to goad him into using them. Putin wants peace and prosperity for the world rather than destruction for the peoples of the world.

Cool
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August 17, 2023, 04:54:13 PM
#27

Thanks. All these accusations against Putin, and almost 100% no proof. Not even evidence when you consider situations in Russia and Ukraine.

That's a lot of pages you have up on your websites. Are you that fast of a typist? Or how many people do you have working with you?


Cool

Most of Russia's crimes are organized by the bandit Putin. The fact that this murderer is awaiting a tribunal and a gallows is beyond doubt. According to your approach, there is no evidence for Hitler either. However, there is no doubt that if Hitler were arrested, then he would hang next to other criminals. The same will happen with the Russian international terrorists led by Putin. There will be retribution for evil, this is how the world works.
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August 17, 2023, 04:18:42 PM
#26

Actually, demonstration of love for Ukrainians. If they would only listen to my warnings, and look at what is happening to

Why in the world do you think that Russia isn't using nukes? They don't want to kill anybody. But they have to defend themselves when they are attacked by the US through Ukraine. Anybody would do that.

Cool

Yes, Putin invented the fairy tale that America staged a revolution in Ukraine, forcing Putin's henchman Yanukovych to flee Ukraine and therefore Russia was forced to attack Ukraine in order to protect itself from America. Who can believe this nonsense. Ukraine will defeat Russia and expel the invaders from their land.

Now, you have proof of this invention and that Putin did it?


Regarding the article, below, it's true that the US Navy has some secret weapons that can shoot some of these Russian missiles down. But can they shoot down enough of them?


Cool
Well, not me. Of course Putin did it.


Thanks. All these accusations against Putin, and almost 100% no proof. Not even evidence when you consider situations in Russia and Ukraine.

That's a lot of pages you have up on your websites. Are you that fast of a typist? Or how many people do you have working with you?


READY FOR ACTION: Russia equips new subs with hypersonic missiles



https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-17-russia-equips-new-subs-with-hypersonic-missiles.html
Russia has upped the ante in the race for nuclear superiority by equipping its new nuclear submarines with hypersonic Zircon missiles. The head of Russia's largest shipbuilder on Monday, Aug. 14, told the RIA state news agency that the process is underway.

"Multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the Yasen-M project will be equipped with the Zircon missile system on a regular basis," Alexei Rakhmanov, chief executive officer of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), told RIA. "Work in this direction is already underway."

Yasen-class submarines, also known as Project 885M, are nuclear-powered cruise missile submarines. They are built to replace Soviet-era nuclear attack submarines as part of a program to modernize the Russian army and fleet.

Designed by the Malakhit Marine Engineering Bureau and built by Sevmash for the Russian Navy, Project 885M is built to fight adversary aircraft carriers, track submarines with nuclear weapons and strike at strategic ground facilities.

There are six Project 885M submarines at various stages of construction. It could not be ascertained how many have been completed or delivered to the Russian Navy.

The submarine can reach a maximum depth of 600 meters, an impressive figure considering that many torpedoes cannot reach such depths.

The Russian Navy commands one of the largest submarine fleets in the world, with an estimated 58 to 72 submarines in its fleet. These include 11 nuclear-powered attack subs, nine nuclear-powered cruise missile subs, 17 nuclear-powered attack subs, diesel-electric subs and special mission subs.

The United States, Russia’s arch-rival, operates between 64 and 68 submarines – all nuclear-powered.

Zircon missiles are a potent weapon – but not invincible

The sea-based Zircon hypersonic missiles have a range of 900 km (560 miles) and can travel nine times the speed of sound, making it difficult to defend against them. It is a scramjet-powered maneuvering anti-ship hypersonic cruise missile with launch platforms on frigates and submarines.
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August 17, 2023, 01:48:30 PM
#25

Why in the world do you think that Russia isn't using nukes? They don't want to kill anybody. But they have to defend themselves when they are attacked by the US through Ukraine. Anybody would do that.

I think the whole talk about Russia national interest is about this. It is about defending themselves against US that may become there neighbors through NATO countries. US is playing the role of the big man and try to watch over the territories of NATO countries and nothing seems wrong with that for NATO. So Russia may be trying to resist that through Ukraine.
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August 16, 2023, 11:02:46 PM
#24

Actually, demonstration of love for Ukrainians. If they would only listen to my warnings, and look at what is happening to

Why in the world do you think that Russia isn't using nukes? They don't want to kill anybody. But they have to defend themselves when they are attacked by the US through Ukraine. Anybody would do that.

Cool

Yes, Putin invented the fairy tale that America staged a revolution in Ukraine, forcing Putin's henchman Yanukovych to flee Ukraine and therefore Russia was forced to attack Ukraine in order to protect itself from America. Who can believe this nonsense. Ukraine will defeat Russia and expel the invaders from their land.

Now, you have proof of this invention and that Putin did it?


Cool
Well, not me. Of course Putin did it.
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August 16, 2023, 02:53:01 PM
#23

Actually, demonstration of love for Ukrainians. If they would only listen to my warnings, and look at what is happening to

Why in the world do you think that Russia isn't using nukes? They don't want to kill anybody. But they have to defend themselves when they are attacked by the US through Ukraine. Anybody would do that.

Cool

Yes, Putin invented the fairy tale that America staged a revolution in Ukraine, forcing Putin's henchman Yanukovych to flee Ukraine and therefore Russia was forced to attack Ukraine in order to protect itself from America. Who can believe this nonsense. Ukraine will defeat Russia and expel the invaders from their land.

Now, you have proof of this invention and that Putin did it?

Consider all the info from both views at https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ukraine+government+attacks+donetsk+2014&ia=news

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August 16, 2023, 01:57:54 PM
#22

Actually, demonstration of love for Ukrainians. If they would only listen to my warnings, and look at what is happening to

Why in the world do you think that Russia isn't using nukes? They don't want to kill anybody. But they have to defend themselves when they are attacked by the US through Ukraine. Anybody would do that.

Cool

Yes, Putin invented the fairy tale that America staged a revolution in Ukraine, forcing Putin's henchman Yanukovych to flee Ukraine and therefore Russia was forced to attack Ukraine in order to protect itself from America. Who can believe this nonsense. Ukraine will defeat Russia and expel the invaders from their land.
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August 16, 2023, 12:49:32 PM
#21


Ukrainians won't regret starting the war with Russia in 2014. Why not? Because there won't be any Ukrainians left to regret or not regret anything.

Cool

Demonstration of vicious hatred for the Ukrainians, and the reason is that Ukrainians broke off the teeth of the Russians.

Actually, demonstration of love for Ukrainians. If they would only listen to my warnings, and look at what is happening to them, they would surrender and survive instead of fighting to the last man and being simply gone.

Cool

Yes, it's a pity that Ukrainians don't know anything about you. Maybe it's better for you to go to Ukraine and tell the Ukrainians there on the spot that you need to surrender to the Russian occupiers and part with the country with the name Ukraine.

Why in the world do you think that Russia isn't using nukes? They don't want to kill anybody. But they have to defend themselves when they are attacked by the US through Ukraine. Anybody would do that.

Cool
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August 16, 2023, 02:28:38 AM
#20


Ukrainians won't regret starting the war with Russia in 2014. Why not? Because there won't be any Ukrainians left to regret or not regret anything.

Cool

Demonstration of vicious hatred for the Ukrainians, and the reason is that Ukrainians broke off the teeth of the Russians.

Actually, demonstration of love for Ukrainians. If they would only listen to my warnings, and look at what is happening to them, they would surrender and survive instead of fighting to the last man and being simply gone.

Cool

Yes, it's a pity that Ukrainians don't know anything about you. Maybe it's better for you to go to Ukraine and tell the Ukrainians there on the spot that you need to surrender to the Russian occupiers and part with the country with the name Ukraine.
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