Topic: Natural corona virus immunity sky rockets. (Read 353 times)

Did you understand what you read?

Did the researchers filter the fluids they withdrew from the sick or dead people properly?

Did they properly separate the various substances that they filtered?

Were they able to grow the isolate in a petrie dish?

Were they able to compare what they grew to the filtered substance to see if they really grew the thing that they originally filtered?

Did they "inject" the substance into another living "person" to see if they could get the new subject to become sick?

Did they withdraw fluids from the subject they made sick, filter them, and isolate exactly the same substance they had isolated from the first subject?

Did their report go into enough detail to show exactly how they did what they did?

Can you find the literal people who did the research? That is, did they sign their reports, and can you actually locate them in the medical lab wherein they did the worked, in case you want to question them about some aspect of their work?

For starters, check the "Koch's postulates" article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch%27s_postulates. Go 2/3 down the page and look at the things that have to be checked for in the 21st Century. Then search for the River's updating of Koch's postulates to see the path that needs to be followed to make sure that everything was done correctly so that the wrong substance wasn't identified.

Did you get that deep into it? Others have, and have found the reports lacking in many areas.

??  Where did you dream that up?

Recent news out of the UK indicates the virus does permanent damage to many organs other than the lungs.  Other news is antibodies are only effective for 3-6 months.

19 will become another seasonal illness like the flu, until the current strain dies out and the evolution is no longer harmful to humans.  Could take years or centuries!

There will be no herd immunity - just like the flu. 

It seems to be pretty much accepted that 95% of the population will not have serious problems when they are infected with the corona virus. It would also seem that almost everybody has been or will be infected at some stage in the not too distant future. Natural immunity in a healthy person lasts for in excess of 17 years - that is the furthest back they can go to check, so it is probably a lifetime immunity. Fake vaccines are expected to give limited immunity for less than a year, and will require regular " top ups".

95% of the population has been adversely affected by the economic measures imposed by governments, and the resulting deaths would appear to be in excess of the genuine ones that can be attributed to the virus.

So in summary, if you are at least half way healthy, then you should get a mild infection during the summer months, and build a natural immunity before the monkey face masked brigade get their winter infections.

Please note, I have no medical training and I haven't been indoctrinated by the Pharma propaganda. I'm just a practical guy who likes to delve behind the sheeple fodder.

do you think that if a person believe he has immunity and the virus is fake, he has the shield from catching it?  what you can do is wear protective gears if possible and improve you health by eating healthy and vitamins for protection.

someone in our house doesn't care about getting infected so we allow him to go out and freely walk around to the marketplace but he just can't go back inside the house. there is a cabin we build long time ago, it must be good to quarantine himself all his life. now he has to cook for himself.

This might be done by the government so that people do not easily panic and stress facing this pandemic, because usually people who are easily stressed are very vulnerable to disease. While we are all waiting for the vaccine to be made by experts, it is better to carry out activities as usual and follow the recommendations set by the government with existing health protocol standards so that the economy is better and can meet daily needs

We also know that the coronavirus is an RNA virus that mutates very quickly. That's why I wouldn't trust the information about 30% as the virus can vary dramatically in different countries.

There is no thinking. There was a research done and I read it. But I am to lazy to now go and find pdf of it. Problem is as I said that such researched has to be reviewed a lot.  And only time can help with that. In half year that cant happen.

The problem with this thinking is:
1. The Chinese identification of Covid was not done correctly; therefore we don't have any accurate identification;
2. Since Covid matches SARS like 80%, it has probably been around for two decades;
3. Herd immunity has been achieved around the world for essentially 2 decades or more;
4. The numbers are total misinformation manipulation of the numbers; you can tell by finding out how the numbers were treated at different times over the last 6 months.


Big Holes in the Covid 'Spike' Narrative

60% are some usually average for viruses. But it differs for every virus. For some you would need 90% for some 20%. There were some researches made a month ago and their results shown we are very lucky with covid-19 since to achieve herd immunity only 30% of population need to be immune. Of course no such results are tested enough, since covid-19 exist only half year.

It seems that some countries, including the government of the country in which I live, have taken a herd immunity method to fight the growing Corona virus on a daily basis. This method is of course much easier and does not cost the government much money nor does it cause the economy to crash. Therefore people should live with this virus for a long time and accept it as part of their life and try to increase their immunity to fight the virus instead of waiting for the vaccine that may never come.

And I read that about 60-70% of the population must be affected by the virus to develop collective immunity. It's a pity that we won't know what percentage of people have already got sick because the number of false-positives and false-negative test results can't be precisely determined.

I have started to believe that all this buzz around covid and the fact that media tries to make people believe that it is a deadly virus has started to happen because there is a huge vaccine production right now on going.
The have to pursue somehow the people that they have to be vaccinated in order to be safe from the virus and make pharmacheuticals rich.

We as a whole world are far from herd immunity. I saw some research it said that about 30% of population is needed for herd immunity. I doubt there is few % of people on earth immune right now.  Yes on some parts of world like Lombard or New York immunity is close to 30% but in most part of the world is not even 1%.

With the rise within the number of corona viruses there's not any fear among the people due to the lockdown most are moving as they please we've not yet discovered a vaccine to fight the virus We aren't in the least sure whether the vaccine for Covid-19 will begin in the least. Can't get out albeit a vaccine does begin it's impossible to ensure that it'll pass all the tests before it comes on the market.

^^^ It's good if it's increasing. Most of the people that have it aren't sick at all. They're keeping us penned up for nothing.

The number of the infected people with the virus is increasing maybe it is because most of the country is now free, most of the government stated that we are now in general community quarantine, that is why most of the people are now back to the normal lives, working, playing or anything which result to violate the social distancing and by that the virus can easily spread to each and every one. I think we should kill first the virus before were getting back to normal.

I think you are going to have to take the "wait for a vaccine" part out of that equation. And where does that leave us?

Pretty sure herd immunity requires around 80% of the population to actually have gotten it. The state in the US that had the most amount of people get it was NY, and even the state of NY only has 20% of the population get it. This is while 26k (or more now) residents of NY died b/c of Corona.

While yes, we'll get closer and closer to herd immunity as things go on. We're going to have a lot of people dead if we continue to go on the path of herd immunity. The best case is a vaccine soon, but that's also pretty far out at this point.

Rolling lockdowns and social distancing while we wait for a vaccine is really all we can do. Honestly.

Since there is no proof that SARS and Covid are different, this is, like, the 20th season for Covid... since we really don't know when SARS actually started.

1. if this is the 2nd 3rd season then yea people have built up a tolerance. they have the blueprints from previous seasons and the hospitalisation rate per year would drop from 10% first to 1% second to 0.1% third

but we are in the first season of a new virus..
again because i dont think you understand this part
NEW VIRUS
even if you do have a fast metabolism so when you identify a threat replicate loads of antibodies. this can take hours-days still.. but in that first 20 minutes of sucking face with a sick person the viral load may outpace your bodies ability to have pot luck random defenders.
its then too late its in the lungs replicating

much better to get low dose to then have low amount battle/replicating if they get passed the first defense
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2. face coverings are only about 20% effective compared to N95/PPE2. and if you just done some maths.
its way better to instead of getting 1mill particles sucking face unprotected. to stand at 2 metres and get
a few dozen thousand. and then reduce that by 20% further so that your body gets a lower dose. thus less fight to need to battle

but overall distance and limiting time exposure makes more of an impact that a covering.

but if you want to keep promoting people should lick faces with sick people for 20minutes a day unprotected then you are just creating more problems for people.
much better to promote personal space respect to only get low dose exposure(social distance/cloth covering)

or if you are in the vulnerable category. then avoid all exposure(shielding/n95)