Topic: Nauusong "easy-money" - page 2. (Read 443 times)

I see then. Thanks sa input, I'm not aware na gine-generalize ko na pala. Actually, nag-search ako nang nag-search para mas maging clear sakin 'yong idea. I even see Avon, saka Tupperware (which is another mlm company) na matagal na nag-ooperate dito sa pinas. So it was really a thing na pala dati pa, 'no? Though hindi naman sila as bad as pyramiding na walang product, however hindi siya effective or efficient pag-kakitaan lalo na pag na sa pinaka bottom ka. Funny thing is, my mom was an Avon salesperson dati, now hindi naman na. I told it about her, and kaya pala 'yong mga na sa taas ('di ko alam kung may certain na tawag doon, pero pag-palagay na lang natin na boss or recruiter) is 'di nabo-bother kasi ang concern lang nila is maubos mo ang inventory. So even though may mabenta ka or wala, they still have "porsyento" pa rin naman sa kinuha mo. Grabe, kaya pala ang sketchy ng takbo ng mga ganyan if you won't put much of a thought, doble kayod ka para sa ikaangat nila meanwhile nagii-struggle ka sa kakarampot na kita  .

Iba pa rin talaga ang return sa investments specially sa crypto  .

Aside sa mga ganitong platform, meron din silang kinakalat via shared post na mga scam pa raffle kunoh. kung saan ang mga FB Users ay maaaring manalo ng mga pa premyo tulad ng cash, smart phones at iba pa. First look palang mukhang hindi na legit dahil yung mga litrato ay halatang kinuha lang sa google. kadalasan ginagamit nila ang pangalan ni nila Willie Revillame or Raffy tulfo para sa kanilang modus. kadalasan ng mga ganitong modus ay para lamang makahikayat ng mga followers at ang masama jan ay meron din silang nabibiktimang mga kababayan natin na walang kaalam alam sa mga ganitong uri ng panloloko na kung saan ay magpapadala daw sila ng brand new iphone na napanalunan daw ngunit kailangan ng shipping fee which is red flag na kaagad kapag tayo yung inalukan ng ganito. pero marami pa ring naloloko dahil na rin sa kanilang ka ignorante sa mga ganitong offers. mababasa nyo dito ang buong detalye sa mga ganitong uri ng panloloko.

https://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2020/05/05/2011985/willie-revillames-wowowin-wages-war-vs-scammers

Ang dami pa ring naloloko ng mga ganito. Dati nung wala pa akong alam ang mindset ko din ay tulad nung mga nabibiktima nito. Na akala ko ganito yung work at home at legit na pagkakakitaan pero hindi pala at mali pala yun. Meron naman talagang legit na pwedeng pagkakitaan tapos manonood ka lang ng mga ads at yun yung mga paid to click sites pero yung kitaan dun hindi naman ganun kalaki at puro sentimos lang din ang rate, wala ding joining fee at di tulad nitong mga scam na 'to may membership fee.

I don't think "cover-up" is the right wording for that kasi legal naman talaga yung mga networking companies dahil may binibenta silang product, what makes them attractive though is yung commission basis nilang earnings para sa mga magiging members/sellers nila. Ponzi schemes/pyramiding schemes on the other hand just offer up fake investments without any products pero meron silang similar structure ng commission katulad ng networking kaya nagkakaroon sila ng similarities. At totoo yung sinasabi mo na yung mga member nila ay mas kumikita pa sa referrals kaysa sa mga produkto nila but it doesn't make their company illegal dahil ang pyramid type of referral commission itself isn't illegal kaya malaya nila pwedeng gamitin ito.

Damn, thank you so much dito. Ito na lang ipapabasa ko sa mga kakilala kong nag-iinvest, and nag-iinvite sa mga ganitong scheme. Minsan kasi mahirap pag sasabihan mo lang without anything at hand na ipapakita sa kanila, they'll be mad at you lang kasi may benefit pa silang nare-receive kaya siguro 'di pa nila naiisip 'yong potential effect nito 'di kalaunan . So baka sakali rito, you know... baka matauhan or magtigil na sila.
(I'm going to save this one na)

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So, parang cover up lang nila 'yong item para makatakas sa legalities, right? Since, pyramiding is illegal. Saka ang money game pa rin naman nila is 'yong referral thing behind, or let's say na lang na, huge portion nung kinikita nila. Pero kasi 'di ko maisama 'yong relevance ng item sa potential na kita, eh hindi naman ma-benta 'yong iba doon unless it has a name na in the market.

Ito pala yung nakikita kong kumakalat sa Facebook na earning platform for watching Youtube videos. Halos na mga nag popost ng mga ganyan ay incomplete details. Kaya may kutob na ako na wala talaga itong pinagkaiba sa mga pyramiding schemes lalo na sa mga dumaang investment platform na naging scam lang din, kaya di ko na lang pinansin at nasa isip ko na ang auto-pass. Ang mga taong nabibiktima lang nito ay yung mga taong madaling makumbinsi kahit pakitaan lang sila ng proof of earnings/cash out kuno.

Regarding sa business name, dapat match ang gamit nilang name online at sa DTI permit.

Technically guys pyramiding and Multi-level-marketing are the same in terms of concept, the only difference is MLM/Networking companies are selling with real products kaya nagiging legal yung kanilang business. The concept na meron kang nasa taas at meron ka nasa baba at mga referral system or komisyon ay parehas lang but the thing is pyramid schemes don't have any product to show that's why they are counted as a fraud type of investment dahil peke yung business nila. Sa totoo naman kikita ka sa MLM/Networking companies pero ang ayaw ko dito is parang masyado ng extreme yung panghihikayat ng ibang mga tao para lang sumali ka sa kanila tapos hindi ka naman tutulungan sa dulo. Also networking is never an easy money kahit yung mga produkto nilang mga sabon or kape ay mahirap din ibenta, don't be fooled by the rewards you will get kasi ikaw ay dadaan sa hirap bago mo ito makuha.

Siguro itong mga nagkakainterest dito ay yung mga taong madaling makuha sa simpleng marketing strategy. Syempre gagamitin nilang pang akit yung "easy money" na either manonood, refer, at magbebenta ka lang ay kikita ka na, without thinking kung worth it ba talaga. Kung titignan mo naman kasi, mukhang madali lang ang mga gagawin pero kung pag-aaralang mabuti, hindi worth it yung oras, internet o data mo para dyan. Pero I think yung main na pinagkakakitaan nila is yung pag bebenta ng sabon, bonus nalang yung referral at panonood.

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Nakita ko itong advisory ng SEC about sa Trendy na ito.

Not sure kung in general ganon or baka may iba pa. It was a part of her (my fb friend) screenshot lang 'yong nakita ko haha  . And I didn't try to ask na, 'cause parang ang gara naman kung 'yong itatanong ko is about sa fee lang. Anyway, yep, seems like ganon, sa referrals mo lang talaga maidadaan income mo dito, 'yong sa sabon mukhang malabo naman may bumili ng maramihan niyan. I'm afraid lang if mag-exit scam 'to soon, ang dami maaapektuhan na kakilala ko .


I'm not aware sa mga pasikot-sikot sa mga ganiyan. And I'm not sure if appropriate i-report agad? Parang mas better if tatanungin muna sila regarding sa ganiyan, right?

Here's their contact btw:

Trendy	SEC
[email protected] 906-179-8309	[email protected] (02) 818-6337 (02) 818-6047

One more thing, I tried to explore 'yong buttons under sa guidelines nila pero it always lead me sa top page, mukhang 'di naman existing 'yong nilalaman non  , the same thing 'yong sa about button nila (it wasn't working). It seems dineploy na nila 'yong website nila even though 'di pa complete or let us say, 'di pa totally fixed lahat.

Thanks! Note that it's not just simply a lot, but even those that aren't financially inclined sees this as an opportunity due to the fact that they need money and referrers often tend to promote this by using their allotted money in referrals as a proof and youtube watch and earn as a front, especially nowadays where the country would face MECQ again.

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Seriously 12% additional cash-out fee? Damn if ever na maximum na kitain mo with or without referrals is 3,000 (this might even take a year to fulfill) then you could only have 2640 and the 360 pesos na fee is ilang months mong paghihirapan?! Damn..

Oh, I've searched a different company name nila na nakaindicate sa mismong app nila pero diba mali and illegal kapag nagchange ka ng company name in your online businesses and sa kung ano ang registered mo sa DTI. I mean it must be the same kasi they had a name of a company registered yet they've used a different one in one of their services. It's just too sh*t and somehow dapat ireport na din. The link of review you send also indicates that they said in the app that they are a "corporation" yet doesn't have any valid registration with the SEC.

Here's their name registered on the DTI:

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Ang sh*t din kasi ng mga ibang gusto kumita despite the knowledge na alam naman nila yung sistema na you earn a very little to nothing in watching youtube videos and still they continue to refer more kasi mas malaki ang kinikita nila dito. Somehow nadisappoint ako sa mga professionals na kilala kong nag promote nang ganito and still continuing to refer more and more. The bottomline would be simple na paano yung mga napaniwala sa youtube kikita ka ng malaki and they doesn't have that much friends to refer?

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Legit lol haha. Di din nga lang natin masisisi yung iba na nabibiktima at nasisilaw sa ganitong scam kasi di din naman lahat may knowledge about what to try and what to avoid na online businesses.

Magtataka ka na lang talaga kung bakit may mga tao pa rin na nagkakaron ng interest sa mga ganito, I mean yung mga typical lang na mamamayan kase kung isa kang sikat or influencer maaaring mag click sayo to e since malaki ang circle mo especially kung referral program ang pag uusapan para talaga sa kanila to, at ikaw kung isang simple lang na tao nag paimpluwensya sa ganito thinking na makakakuha ka rin ng malaking pera tulad ng nag impluwensya e mag isip isip ka muna. Sinong tao ang mag aaksaya ng 10 hrs every sa loob ng isang buwan just to get 120 pesos?! kahit ata mga pulubi sa kalsada mas malaki pa kikitain sa isang buwan e 

Good read, at yeah, its pyramiding scheme. Kakalungkot lang sa mga nag click dyan, kahit anong calculations ang gawin mo 4 pesos in 10 hours is too sh*t, pwera nalang kung pwedeng multiple tabs and multiple browsers tas naka 144p lang yung quality ng vids para di sayang data kase luge talaga yan.
At actually, pag benta ng sabon? para sa anu? pampaputi? daming mas maganda at subok na soap products, mas mabuting mag stick nalang dun kesa sa bago at not sure if verified FDA approved yan.
At basically, recruiting yung main model ng business kaya di nag kakaiba sa mga mlm, kaya pag wala kang ma recruit walang kwenta account mo, walang profit.

Better to stay away from this, at suggests your acquaintances na mag stop na rin, kase aksaya lang ng uras to, mas mabuti pa faucet kase walang initial deposit though not suggesting na mag faucet kase liit na din ng kita dyan.
Para sa mga di tamad lang, mas mabuti sa panahon ngayon is to invest your self na matuto ng mga skills na pwede magamit at kumita ng pera online daming tutorial na makikita online bisitahin lang si pareng google.

Waste of time lang talaga panonood nung video, mas malaki pa gagastusin mo pambayad sa net compared naman sa monthly income mo diyan  , lalo na if typical guy ka lang 'di sanay sa mga refer thingy na 'yan. And, nakita ko lang sa story nung classmate ko before, may 12% fee sila ata if ika-cashout mo na 'yong kinita mo. So, imagine, you managed to reached 500 PHP (na kadalasan minimum amount pag magwi-withdraw ka) eh may deduction pa na 12% para sa fee, so mag-uubos oras ka ulit, and another gastos pa specially if 'di ka naka wi-fi, para atleast ma-cover mo 'yong minimum amount para ma-withdraw 'yong money mo.

I look around to find some reviews rin 'bout them, and nakita ko 'to: /trendy-unlimited-trading-corporation-review/. Fortunately, sabi sa review registered naman raw sila sa DTI, pero sa SEC hindi. Since, MLM company sila, to add lang, magandang read 'to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mlm-a-dangerous-marketing-strategy-5116935 on why we should avoid this sort of thing.

great thread! more awareness about pyramid schemes. too bad a lot of people still falling for this kind of scam hoping and thinking that it will change their life but giving up in the end since the profit is almost nonexistent unless they are able to recruit a new aspiring individual hoping to change their life through this kind of business.

Magandang Araw, mga Kababayan!
This isn't a promotion nor whatsoever if you ever find it one.

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Recently napansin ko dumadami na ang gustong kumita not only by selling but also yung tingin nilang "easy money". Then many already had been posting on Facebook that they earn by watching youtube videos, some even posted screenshots of how much they earn and even blue bills just to prove their legitimacy, but then of course a way to earn referrals as well.

This new app that supports only Philippine Peso is named as Trendy.

Have you heard of it? Well then here's how their referral and earning system was.
(I've asked a friend na nag gaganon if you would ask me paano ko nalaman haha)

At first you need to have a referrer (to register you in their platform), but then what bothers me is that you must invest for as low as 750Php just for registration. And their mode of payment depends on your referrer kung Gcash, Coins.PH, Paymaya, or Direct payment ang gusto. Then after that mayroon kang tatlong ways to earn:

• Referral - same as kung paano ka nagsimula, just depends sa kung paano mo ipopromote ito para magkareferrals ka.
  
• Benta ng sabon - I found this funny pero totoo, they letting you to earn by reselling their product as well.
  
• Watching Youtube videos - you earn tokens that you can convert to Philippine Peso. But then there are two types of membership as well:
  
  • Silver Membership - this costs 750Php. You earn .5 token per video.
  • Gold Membership - this costs 1500Php. You earn 1 token per video.
  then counted na daw sa earning ng token ang 1min and 30sec na panonood, because videos ranges from 6 to 14 mins long.
  

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How much is the conversion of their token to peso?



They also say na if you are Silver Member, just 250 lang ang fee dahil 500 ay mapupunta parin sayo, as well as Gold member which is 500 naman ang fee and 1000 mapupuna sa account mo.

Well then let's calculate. If you have a silver account and you watched 1.5 mins in an hour straight...
Basically, you can watch 40 videos in an hour hence you can have 20 tokens for that. and 20 tokens in php is just .4 pesos. And if you would have watch for the whole day (approx. 10 hrs), then you could earn 4 pesos. (yes you've read it right). And if you ever have Gold account, twice lang ang earnings mo in watching youtube.

Then let's calculate those whom are saying "For a month, ganito kalaki (mostly thousands) na kinita mo!"
Silver account earns 4 pesos in 10 hrs per day of watching youtube. Simply multiplying 4 to 30 would give you only 120 pesos! And even having a gold member account that costs 500 in registration (kasi nga 1000 babalik sayo), then you could only have 240pesos.

Now how some earn so much? Simple lang, Referrals. Why? Each successful referral could give you 250Php. Then imagine being famous, well-known, and respected, then you can gain as many referral as you could have (kasi some of my Facebook friend na professionals are promoting such application).

Now, I looked up their company (Trendy Unlimited Trading Corp.) on both DTI and SEC online and I've found nothing on DTI business name search and SEC business search is unfortunately down at the moment.

BTW, here's images of their membership perks.
 

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All I want to say is to warn that I think with this kind of earnings, they are simply a pyramiding scam. Referrers get to earn, then you earn more by referring as well. But then tingin ko lang yun, lalo na sa earnings na magagawa mo through watching youtube compared sa kung magkano iinvest mo would take you months before mong makuha amount ng ininvest mo. Worth it? Only if you are successful finding people to refer, or you are good at selling their product. But with what they promote as "Manonood ka lang, kikita ka na?" I think it was never worth a single try at all.