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legendary
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Nayib Bukele is undoubtedly one of the most bullish politician in bitcoin history. So it's no surprise, he will speak highly about it! Also I assume, not just two but more countries will adopt bitcoin as a legal tender in coming months. But none of them is likely to wipe out their own currency system in this process just the way El-Salvador did. Bitcoin will be adopted as a parallel currency alongside their own fiats. Also it makes sense for the small countries as it will save them a ton of money from foreign remittances.

But I really doubt about the 100k claim. As Franky rightly pointed out, it is extremely difficult to sustain at 100k level. Some hype of whale movement may push the price beyond 100k but it won't sustain due to the huge sell pressure. So if we don't see a whole new array of investors in the market with a similar or higher buy orders, 100k will not sustain. The market has to eat up the supplies to sustain at that level. Simple economics!   

With his breakthrough investing a big amount of BTC for a country, other country leaders could be stimulate to also invest in cryptocurrency because crypto is already recognized by the world and no longer said as a scam thing or something that going to bubble.
The price increase is not the most important thing for bitcoin and the whole crypto markets right now, we need more adoption and more reach to make people invest on it and the price will be followed, sudden price pump is not good for the market we would rather to make it slow but steady increasement

I would imagine that a number of "countries" have at this stage already been in contact
with Bukele so he would be in a position to know something of this and there
has been speculation from the community already as to who those countries are likely
to be.

We can be fairly sure though that they are likely to be similar countries to El Salvador
who are using the $
hero member
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I was expecting him to drop some names and inside info, but he literally just says 2 countries. That's vague as one can be. But let's say, for the sake of the argument, that he is right, I imagine those 2 would be of the same economic stature as el salvador. I don't se any big names adopting it in a way they did, and not anytime soon. And maybe that's for the best. This seems to be going too fast for it's own good.
Same for what i expect that he'll be dropping those two names of countries. But this thing is already expected that there will be more countries who will adopt bitcoin as a legal currency and i know it will be happening in the near future.

However, Bukele's first prediction is close to its realization as bitcoin will certainly reach $100k few months from now once there is no bearish season. But no worries, because after its bearish season, i think a bullish season will appear and in less time, we will soon to witness $100k as new bitcoin's ATH. It could be this year or the next year around.
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I was expecting him to drop some names and inside info, but he literally just says 2 countries. That's vague as one can be. But let's say, for the sake of the argument, that he is right, I imagine those 2 would be of the same economic stature as el salvador. I don't se any big names adopting it in a way they did, and not anytime soon. And maybe that's for the best. This seems to be going too fast for it's own good.
legendary
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because using bitcoin can they easily bypass these sanctions.

It's a bit of a myth that Bitcoin can be used to bypass all sanctions. Sanctions mean that companies of a country that imposed them are prohibited from doing business with the sanctioned country. Using Bitcoin could help hide such actions, but not completely, and there still need to be companies willing to break the law, which not many would actually want to do. Sanctioned countries don't really have a problem of paying to each other, so Bitcoin is not a great help for that.
It is more complicated than that. It is also not always about hiding.

For individuals, they will be prohibited to make a payment through banking system if their country is sanctioned. That means using bitcoin means they can make payment regardless of that, effectively bypassing those sanctions.

On a bigger scale for countries to trade, the issue of sanctions isn't about trading with the country that sanctioned them but to trade with everyone else. Right now trades are still mostly happening in USD even if US is not involved and it goes through US controlled channels and if US has sanctioned that country they will block steal their money. For example right now US has stolen trillions of dollars of Iranians since Iran is under US sanctions in dozens of countries (eg. South Korea, Canada, Iraq, a bunch of European countries). Using a different means of payment (eg. using SPFS ie. the equivalent of SWIFT from Russia) or bitcoin means bypassing the US control through a channel they can never intervene.
legendary
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because using bitcoin can they easily bypass these sanctions.

It's a bit of a myth that Bitcoin can be used to bypass all sanctions. Sanctions mean that companies of a country that imposed them are prohibited from doing business with the sanctioned country. Using Bitcoin could help hide such actions, but not completely, and there still need to be companies willing to break the law, which not many would actually want to do. Sanctioned countries don't really have a problem of paying to each other, so Bitcoin is not a great help for that.
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Several other countries will certainly adopt bitcoin and make bitcoin a legal tender. this is also influenced by El Salvador which first legalized bitcoin. Nayib Bukele's strategy by adopting bitcoin is of course expected to further improve the economy of the country of El Salvador, especially since El Salvador does mining using volcanic mountain energy which of course is energy from nature that will not pollute the environment. The prediction described by the president of El Salvador is certainly still very likely to happen, because I am also sure that Bitcoin ATH will reach $100k or even more. and Bitcoin City which will be built by Nayib Bukele will add to the euphoria of bitcoin.

The prediction of at least 2 more countries will make btc legal tender is indeed possible. Like what Leviathan said, there are countries especially small countries that have worthless fiat currencies. So those are good candidates to deploy btc in their financial system. If El Salvador will continue to show positive progress with their adoption of btc, some countries will possibly follow their path. Looking forward about the construction of their Bitcoin City and how they will influence the citizens of El Salvador.
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I don't trust his prediction and can't trust what he says about bitcoin the future of bitcoin but on the other hand as far as I know there are many other countries with worthless fiat currencies and their fiat money got low value so I expect to see these countries open their arm for bitcoin, the other reason for these countries to accept and use bitcoin for them can be economic sanctions from some other governments such as USA and EU because using bitcoin can they easily bypass these sanctions.
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We all know that, at the end of the day countries will follow El Salvador definitely since there is no way that any of them are thinking about loosing a foot here, everyone wants to move forth and stay updated with the technology as well. Therefore it might not just be 2 countries but there would be definitely many in the line. What I do think is, how El Salvador presents itself in front of others is crucial. Being the first country to adopt bitcoins comes with a lot of risks and benefits as well, they would be able to steer through and show the world how well it might work out.
Adoption of Bitcoins is indeed very natural and it's gonna happen for sure, what matters is : How fast?? How long will it take ?? It would be interesting to see other countries approaches towards adopting bitcoins as well.
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Several other countries will certainly adopt bitcoin and make bitcoin a legal tender. this is also influenced by El Salvador which first legalized bitcoin. Nayib Bukele's strategy by adopting bitcoin is of course expected to further improve the economy of the country of El Salvador, especially since El Salvador does mining using volcanic mountain energy which of course is energy from nature that will not pollute the environment. The prediction described by the president of El Salvador is certainly still very likely to happen, because I am also sure that Bitcoin ATH will reach $100k or even more. and Bitcoin City which will be built by Nayib Bukele will add to the euphoria of bitcoin.
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It's just his prediction of what might happen in 2022 and it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen for sure.

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Will reach $100k

Bitcoin reaching $100k is quite realistic this year since it is already at $47k. If things go well then $100k is quite achievable this year.

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2 more countries will adopt it as legal tender

How come he is so sure that 2 more countries will adopt bitcoin as a legal tender. May be he knows something that others don't or may be he is just bluffing.

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Will become a major electoral issue in US elections this year

May be the 2 countries are from US which is why it becomes an electoral issue in US elections. Lol  Grin

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Bitcoin City will commence construction
Volcano bonds will be oversubscribed
Huge surprise at @TheBitcoinConf

Those would be really nice to see.
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The key thing starts with the word “predictions” which has a very clear meaning : a statement about what you think will happen in the future.

Of all his predictions, only the conference is somewhat certain (unless canceled due to the pandemic), and everything else is nothing but his personal thinking. If he knows which two countries these are, why not write it publicly so we all know? Whether it is Tonga and Honduras, or Nicaragua and Nauru - apart from the psychological significance that El Salvador is not the only one, nothing significant will change.

As for the big surprise, maybe Michael Saylor will run for mayor of Bitcoin City or maybe for president of the US in the next election Cheesy
legendary
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But none of them is likely to wipe out their own currency system in this process just the way El-Salvador did. Bitcoin will be adopted as a parallel currency alongside their own fiats.
Just a correction. El Salvador didn't abandon their own currency because they didn't have one in the first place. El Salvador has been using the USD since 2001 according to Wikipedia, and on top of that they added Bitcoin - their second national currency.

Depending on what those 2 countries are, it could be a big surprise or a meh moment. For example if another poor country like El Salvador that doesn't even have their own currency adopts bitcoin as legal tender it is not as big deal as El Salvador itself. But if a bigger country with a half decent economy did that, it would be big.
It's probably going to be at least one South American country (maybe even two) with a ruined economy. It's very doubtful that we will see a western nation do it.
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So the President of El Salvador is the next PlanB?  Smiley I thought the myth has been busted when we didn't reach $100k in 2021? What if we get full bear market this year as it seems that the signs are already here?

In any case the President is really bullish on BTC and that is a good sign, just like the rest of us here. We are waiting for that 6 digits to happen. But I wouldn't expect too much though, specially on how the price is moving since December.

It's been hanging between bears or bulls thin line but once it crosses the 42K below price, it's obviously going to that bear market which everyone will really panic to sell. I'm not hoping for it to happen because the financial institutions also see BTC as the hedge for the imminent economic collapse or so they've predicted.

I think traders are also holding thier stablecoin this December because they also see that bears might also come. Until there is no obvious trend yet, those traders will also not come to buy. 

Some are just holding positively because of the bullish people like Bukele and Micheal Saylor.
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So the President of El Salvador is the next PlanB?  Smiley I thought the myth has been busted when we didn't reach $100k in 2021? What if we get full bear market this year as it seems that the signs are already here?

In any case the President is really bullish on BTC and that is a good sign, just like the rest of us here. We are waiting for that 6 digits to happen. But I wouldn't expect too much though, specially on how the price is moving since December.
legendary
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Depending on what those 2 countries are, it could be a big surprise or a meh moment. For example if another poor country like El Salvador that doesn't even have their own currency adopts bitcoin as legal tender it is not as big deal as El Salvador itself. But if a bigger country with a half decent economy did that, it would be big.

I also the "electoral issue in US" prediction is a big exaggerated. I don't think it would even be an issue.
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President of El Salvador Nayib Bukele tweeted

Very nice of him to tweet about Bitcoin, but we already know that he's bullish on Bitcoin and has his own interest in Bitcoin being successful.
And I clearly don't mind, but:
* I don't think that he's a specialist, by far.
* His tweets should be taken with a grain of salt. Or two. Just because they're greatly biased.
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The announcement of these two countries adopting BTC I guess will also be done through that Bitcoin Conference in Miami again. There is just much of a buzz when doing it with Bitcoin loving audience and it's more massive this time because big media might just cover it.

Side projects for Bukele like the Bitcoin city and Volcano bond will make other countries sees the opportunity so if they also have volcanoes or waterfalls to turn into a hydroelectric power station, maybe there will also be Kaieteur Falls bond or something like that.
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Nayib Bukele is undoubtedly one of the most bullish politician in bitcoin history. So it's no surprise, he will speak highly about it! Also I assume, not just two but more countries will adopt bitcoin as a legal tender in coming months. But none of them is likely to wipe out their own currency system in this process just the way El-Salvador did. Bitcoin will be adopted as a parallel currency alongside their own fiats. Also it makes sense for the small countries as it will save them a ton of money from foreign remittances.

But I really doubt about the 100k claim. As Franky rightly pointed out, it is extremely difficult to sustain at 100k level. Some hype of whale movement may push the price beyond 100k but it won't sustain due to the huge sell pressure. So if we don't see a whole new array of investors in the market with a similar or higher buy orders, 100k will not sustain. The market has to eat up the supplies to sustain at that level. Simple economics!   

With his breakthrough investing a big amount of BTC for a country, other country leaders could be stimulate to also invest in cryptocurrency because crypto is already recognized by the world and no longer said as a scam thing or something that going to bubble.
The price increase is not the most important thing for bitcoin and the whole crypto markets right now, we need more adoption and more reach to make people invest on it and the price will be followed, sudden price pump is not good for the market we would rather to make it slow but steady increasement

This will be a good boost for bitcoin since this could add up the value of bitcoin and to became more worthy by the help of their adoption but they need also to study if they are really ready for this big move to make since look what happen now a huge price decline happen and if they are new to this for sure they will be endanger so hopefully they have knowledge on this so that they will not get burn on bear market season.
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Nayib Bukele is undoubtedly one of the most bullish politician in bitcoin history. So it's no surprise, he will speak highly about it! Also I assume, not just two but more countries will adopt bitcoin as a legal tender in coming months. But none of them is likely to wipe out their own currency system in this process just the way El-Salvador did. Bitcoin will be adopted as a parallel currency alongside their own fiats. Also it makes sense for the small countries as it will save them a ton of money from foreign remittances.

But I really doubt about the 100k claim. As Franky rightly pointed out, it is extremely difficult to sustain at 100k level. Some hype of whale movement may push the price beyond 100k but it won't sustain due to the huge sell pressure. So if we don't see a whole new array of investors in the market with a similar or higher buy orders, 100k will not sustain. The market has to eat up the supplies to sustain at that level. Simple economics!   

With his breakthrough investing a big amount of BTC for a country, other country leaders could be stimulate to also invest in cryptocurrency because crypto is already recognized by the world and no longer said as a scam thing or something that going to bubble.
The price increase is not the most important thing for bitcoin and the whole crypto markets right now, we need more adoption and more reach to make people invest on it and the price will be followed, sudden price pump is not good for the market we would rather to make it slow but steady increasement
legendary
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Nayib Bukele is undoubtedly one of the most bullish politician in bitcoin history. So it's no surprise, he will speak highly about it! Also I assume, not just two but more countries will adopt bitcoin as a legal tender in coming months. But none of them is likely to wipe out their own currency system in this process just the way El-Salvador did. Bitcoin will be adopted as a parallel currency alongside their own fiats. Also it makes sense for the small countries as it will save them a ton of money from foreign remittances.

But I really doubt about the 100k claim. As Franky rightly pointed out, it is extremely difficult to sustain at 100k level. Some hype of whale movement may push the price beyond 100k but it won't sustain due to the huge sell pressure. So if we don't see a whole new array of investors in the market with a similar or higher buy orders, 100k will not sustain. The market has to eat up the supplies to sustain at that level. Simple economics!   
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