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Quote from: püsür on June 02, 2022, 03:07:06 PM

I am expecting a surprise from Celtics in either first game or the second one. Most people think Warriors are favourite but Celtics have shown that they exceed expectations and likely to surprise people. Nevertheless, I also expect that Warriors will probably get the title. They are obviously the better shooter and just over all better team. That being said, we can expect that Celtics will not go down without a fight.

I also expect that the mature Steph Curry will try to dominate this series and make his name legendary but it will not be easy. I don't think Curry will be the factor that Warriors will rely on most, but rather whole team will contribute a lot. Warriors are not a classic franchise player leading team, Curry is not our everyday superstar. I am not expecting him to get the MVP even, Poole or Klay even might get it.

Its expected from teams like this that their superstars do the work. Everyone is expecting from Curry and Thompson to win this o most alone and that will probobly happen. They have the most experience and the entire Warriors team has experience in finals like this so i think they are the favorites in the series

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I am expecting a surprise from Celtics in either first game or the second one. Most people think Warriors are favourite but Celtics have shown that they exceed expectations and likely to surprise people. Nevertheless, I also expect that Warriors will probably get the title. They are obviously the better shooter and just over all better team. That being said, we can expect that Celtics will not go down without a fight.

I also expect that the mature Steph Curry will try to dominate this series and make his name legendary but it will not be easy. I don't think Curry will be the factor that Warriors will rely on most, but rather whole team will contribute a lot. Warriors are not a classic franchise player leading team, Curry is not our everyday superstar. I am not expecting him to get the MVP even, Poole or Klay even might get it.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 02, 2022, 12:59:57 PM

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Personally, I'm rooting for Warriors to win the Finals this season and I've been vocal about that in reality since the splash bros have surfaced. But I admit that the Celtics has impressed me this season and I loved to see a close game until it will reach Game 7.

yeah, most of people here is rooting for Warriors, as per pool it is 22:9 for Warriors to be champions
and I agree, Warriors have a bigger group of good players, that all came as decision makers, Celtics are younger, so that is their strength, although they already played more matches in play-off series

TBH, I expect at least 6 matches in a series, thought that Warriors can finish it off earlier, but nah, probably 4:2 in the end, with seventh match, Celtics are closer to title

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Lets discuss game 1.

Current point spread now is -3.5 for the Warriors, they are playing at home and have never lost a single game. I think it's an easy call, even if they are the public play, I still think they'll win this game.

Also, the total is only 211, over is easy here, hopefully not a trap.

It should be an easy win by the goldenstate Warriors at home but Boston Celitcs have already won several times at away games in the playoff series so i wouldnt be surprised much if they won again.

This is game 1, Celtics has not won a game 1 on the road IIRC, and the Warriors has never lost a game at home.
I will stick with what I believe, I understand that Celtics are a good team but I'd go with the trend until it gets broken.

Plus Celtics are 2 games more tired, and they will play so quickly whereas Warriors are resting. I have to say, it's clear to me that we are talking about Warriors here, they have been great before KD and did great this year again. I am quite happy to see them do great this year as well and I am not seeing them losing this series as a whole, let alone the first game.

However, if there is ANY team in the league right now that could stop them, it's the celtics. Who are the great players in Warriors? The shooters, who are the great defenders of Celtics? The guards. It's clear to me that Celtics will be defending like hell and will not make it easy.

Celtics are not gonna slow down the shooters of the Warriors, if they are good defensive, it's impossible they can stop everyone. They cannot even stop Butler which is the only pure shooter of the team, how much more the Warriors who are moving the ball very well and they have a lot of shooters that could spread the floor.

I agree, yes the Celtics is a defensive team but they cannot just limit and slow down the shooting average of the shooters of the Warriors. Well, it's not that I'm saying that they cannot do it at all, what I mean is sure they can limit some of the key players but the problem is that almost all of the starting players of the Warriors can shoot everywhere in the court even long deep threes. Now, how can they stop that?

I don't really think the Celtics can stop the Warriors. They may have a size advantage that they'll be able to exploit in the key, but I don't see how their defense can keep up with the shooters on Golden State. Is Marcus Smart supposed to chase Curry around all game? I think the Celtics will be forced to play the Warriors game, and they won't be able to beat them at their own game. Unless Tatum has a lucky shooting night from three point range, I don't see how the Celtics are going to keep up with the Warriors offense. We'll see tomorrow. Excited it's almost time for the NBA Finals!

That's quite argumentative mate when in fact we're in the same team here Cheesy

lol I'm just kidding.

We will see later how would the Celtics respond to the Warriors play, the Celtics will be the one to adjust here not because they are a defensive team but because the Warriors have more shooters and key players than them. It will be fun to see Smart chasing the Splash Bros and trying to limit them, surely they wouldn't want to exhaust the whole team for defending two or three key players of the Warriors because that will seriously lead them into a defeat.

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on June 01, 2022, 12:12:17 PM

@ChiBitCTy This is ridiculous. Cheesy

I don't know what ESPN are up to by sharing a statistics like this. I know one thing and it is that none of the finalist teams have a very big superiority to the other one. These teams both have had an incredible season so far and this was one of the best finals I imagined too. I'm happy to see them here as a result. As for the team I'm favouring, I can say that it is Celtics now. I like Warriors too normally but in this case I feel myself closer to Celtics. I believe in them to make it to the championship after a tough run.

This shared image is really ridiculous, I don't think it will be something that will make such a big difference. Both teams have a chance, it would not be right to evaluate the final match by only looking at the statistics.
The Boston Celtics were pretty good this year, and my favorite would be the Celtics. But it would not be right to say that Golden State has no chance

Surely nobody had thought that ESPN would do and post something like that and give statistics that the Warriors just have a slim chance to win this series and after I saw that, I literally said to myself that there would be some fans who will seriously oppose this post Grin

Personally, I'm rooting for Warriors to win the Finals this season and I've been vocal about that in reality since the splash bros have surfaced. But I admit that the Celtics has impressed me this season and I loved to see a close game until it will reach Game 7.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on June 02, 2022, 11:34:18 AM

Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on June 01, 2022, 12:12:17 PM

@ChiBitCTy This is ridiculous. Cheesy

I don't know what ESPN are up to by sharing a statistics like this. I know one thing and it is that none of the finalist teams have a very big superiority to the other one. These teams both have had an incredible season so far and this was one of the best finals I imagined too. I'm happy to see them here as a result. As for the team I'm favouring, I can say that it is Celtics now. I like Warriors too normally but in this case I feel myself closer to Celtics. I believe in them to make it to the championship after a tough run.

Lol I honestly don't know how you could even come up with such a ridiculous number. I understand if you want to make fake sports arguments kind of like how Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless do all the time, but this is simply ridiculous. While I agree with you that the favored team either way should not be such a wide margin, I am going with the Warriors. Most outlets like Vegas have the Warriors favorited. I do hope that it's at least a really good series, but I just don't see them stopping Curry and Klay.

They must have done a poll on the streets in Boston or something. There's no way people could actually believe the Celtics are that likely to win against a team with a core that had the best record in the NBA and a legitimate dynasty before a few injuries, that allowed them to tank and pick up even more talent in Wiggins. Sure, the Celtics might have more to prove and they're a bigger and stronger team...but...Steph Curry is the greatest 3 point shooter of all time in a league where 3 pointers determine the winner. I think the Celtics have their hands full...

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on June 01, 2022, 12:12:17 PM

@ChiBitCTy This is ridiculous. Cheesy

I don't know what ESPN are up to by sharing a statistics like this. I know one thing and it is that none of the finalist teams have a very big superiority to the other one. These teams both have had an incredible season so far and this was one of the best finals I imagined too. I'm happy to see them here as a result. As for the team I'm favouring, I can say that it is Celtics now. I like Warriors too normally but in this case I feel myself closer to Celtics. I believe in them to make it to the championship after a tough run.

Lol I honestly don't know how you could even come up with such a ridiculous number. I understand if you want to make fake sports arguments kind of like how Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless do all the time, but this is simply ridiculous. While I agree with you that the favored team either way should not be such a wide margin, I am going with the Warriors. Most outlets like Vegas have the Warriors favorited. I do hope that it's at least a really good series, but I just don't see them stopping Curry and Klay.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 01, 2022, 11:08:51 AM

I like how coach Kerr trusted Klay Thompson, although there are some games that he struggled and yet they still allowed him to shoot the ball and he was able to get his confidence back and his rhythm in the shooting. In games that matter, Klay Thompson is ready to step up, just like in the last game of the WCF and the last game of Warriors vs Memphis.

Game 6 Klay is always fun to watch.

Klay is klay no matter how long he rest because of his injury that bond between him and coach Kerr will remain the same, bad night always part of every player but once that confident start to spark back the outcome favors the whole squad, and with respect to all Warriors players they all know that once Klay start hitting his hot hands will not stop but to keep on converting, look how Curry and Green fed him those 3's they all have the connections.

Now, it's time for the splash bro to regain the fame, one last assignment to accomplish to win another NBA title.

Expect to see a 3 point shots showdown between these two firepower squads.

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It's certainly different and what we are seeing in the Finals is the best teams in the NBA.
In their last 4 games, Boston had a 3-1 lead, so Boston is really a good team, however, the Warriors now are complete, they have Klay Thompson already, and probably Iggy will be back in the NBA Finals, same with Porter Jr, so it's really an unpredictable series.

I can't say if east or west is better, but I can say that Bucks and heat looks better than mavs and grizz, so at the very least I agree that Celtics had a more difficult path here. However, just because they had a more difficult path doesn't make them better, that just makes them face harder teams that made them tired even more.

Warriors may have faced easier opponents, but they were still better and I believe that they will definitely be better than Celtics as well. Maybe it is the delusion that we have based on a few years ago when Warriors were great, and maybe they won't be as great this year, but I feel like they will still be great.

Warriors may not be as dominant compared ot the past but they are still a great team. Just remember that this team has been facing some injury problems, and Thompson were not able to play the whole season and yet they still finish with a good ranking.

Stats doesn't lie though, as per https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced/?sort=OFF_RATING&dir=-1
Warriors are the number 1 in offense, that says a lot, and no team could stop them IMO, even the Celtics.

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The NBA finals this year are going to be very interesting. I admit that it's hard for me to name a favorite. The greatest strength of the Warriors is the offensive. When they have their day, they can destroy any rival. Experience will also be their advantage. This is the sixth Warriors Final in the last eight seasons. Boston is a team that has undergone a huge metamorphosis over the course of the season. They are very strong on defense. I think the fate of the finals will depend mainly on the young stars of Boston, Tatum and Brown. If young leaders bear the pressure, Boston stands a chance of regaining the championship after 14 years.

People are hyping the Celtics a lot but in reality, Warriors are actually the team that has a huge chance to win here. They are not new to the NBA Finals, and their chemistry is really superb, I'm sorry but it looks like Warriors are gonna smart the Celtics in game 1 to make a statement that Celtics are not yet a championshp caliber team.

That's your personal opinion only, Celtics are also a good team, the reason why they are in the NBA Finals. However, in terms of expereince, the Warriors have the advantage and since Curry is the greatest shooter in the history of NBA, Celtics has to do a great job on him so their chance to win will improve.

If Curry could score 25+ points per game, that means Warriors will dominate but if Celtics could limit the Warriors by less than 100 points, that means their defense are effective.

I think Curry can still score 25+ points, but you are right, if Warriors cannot score their average numbers, that means Celtics defense are limiting the Warriors offense, and when that will happen, the advantage is on the defensive team. I don't expect that actually as Warriors will always find a way to score, they are probably the number 1 team in offense if I'm not mistaken, so how can we limit them?

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The NBA finals this year are going to be very interesting. I admit that it's hard for me to name a favorite. The greatest strength of the Warriors is the offensive. When they have their day, they can destroy any rival. Experience will also be their advantage. This is the sixth Warriors Final in the last eight seasons. Boston is a team that has undergone a huge metamorphosis over the course of the season. They are very strong on defense. I think the fate of the finals will depend mainly on the young stars of Boston, Tatum and Brown. If young leaders bear the pressure, Boston stands a chance of regaining the championship after 14 years.

People are hyping the Celtics a lot but in reality, Warriors are actually the team that has a huge chance to win here. They are not new to the NBA Finals, and their chemistry is really superb, I'm sorry but it looks like Warriors are gonna smart the Celtics in game 1 to make a statement that Celtics are not yet a championshp caliber team.

That's your personal opinion only, Celtics are also a good team, the reason why they are in the NBA Finals. However, in terms of expereince, the Warriors have the advantage and since Curry is the greatest shooter in the history of NBA, Celtics has to do a great job on him so their chance to win will improve.

If Curry could score 25+ points per game, that means Warriors will dominate but if Celtics could limit the Warriors by less than 100 points, that means their defense are effective.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on June 02, 2022, 02:09:55 AM

The NBA finals this year are going to be very interesting. I admit that it's hard for me to name a favorite. The greatest strength of the Warriors is the offensive. When they have their day, they can destroy any rival. Experience will also be their advantage. This is the sixth Warriors Final in the last eight seasons. Boston is a team that has undergone a huge metamorphosis over the course of the season. They are very strong on defense. I think the fate of the finals will depend mainly on the young stars of Boston, Tatum and Brown. If young leaders bear the pressure, Boston stands a chance of regaining the championship after 14 years.

People are hyping the Celtics a lot but in reality, Warriors are actually the team that has a huge chance to win here. They are not new to the NBA Finals, and their chemistry is really superb, I'm sorry but it looks like Warriors are gonna smart the Celtics in game 1 to make a statement that Celtics are not yet a championshp caliber team.

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The NBA finals this year are going to be very interesting. I admit that it's hard for me to name a favorite. The greatest strength of the Warriors is the offensive. When they have their day, they can destroy any rival. Experience will also be their advantage. This is the sixth Warriors Final in the last eight seasons. Boston is a team that has undergone a huge metamorphosis over the course of the season. They are very strong on defense. I think the fate of the finals will depend mainly on the young stars of Boston, Tatum and Brown. If young leaders bear the pressure, Boston stands a chance of regaining the championship after 14 years.

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I am not a very big basketball fan, however, I can tell those 8 people who voted for the Celtics good luck and they might only win 1 game or 2 if the Warriors have a rest day hehehe. However, I am quite sure this series will not reach 7 games. Also, can the Warriors sweep it? There is a chance, I reckon.

In any case, Warriors might win first 3 games, Celtics wins game 4 and Warriors win game 5 for the confetti shower.

I think you might be underestimate how the Celtics really are as a team, my prediction is Warriors in 5, too but the chances for that might be really slim, I said Warriors in 5 because I think Warriors would protect home court in the first two games, but Celtics are more than of winning either on the road or at home as well, we saw how much of a task the Memphis Grizzlies were for the Warriors in the conference semi-finals, and you really can't say the Celtics can't pull a bigger or tougher threat.

I wouldn't be surprised if Celtics can steal one game at Chase center. But then again the Warriors can return back at the favor in Boston Garden and so this series might be a 5 or 6 for the Warriors. Maybe in paper the Celtics are not the favored, but this is not going to be an easy NBA finals for the Warriors. Boston even without experience will give everything they have against Curry, Thompson and Green (core of GSW, carry over from the championship team back then).

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 01, 2022, 09:15:44 PM

I am not a very big basketball fan, however, I can tell those 8 people who voted for the Celtics good luck and they might only win 1 game or 2 if the Warriors have a rest day hehehe. However, I am quite sure this series will not reach 7 games. Also, can the Warriors sweep it? There is a chance, I reckon.

In any case, Warriors might win first 3 games, Celtics wins game 4 and Warriors win game 5 for the confetti shower.

I think you might be underestimate how the Celtics really are as a team, my prediction is Warriors in 5, too but the chances for that might be really slim, I said Warriors in 5 because I think Warriors would protect home court in the first two games, but Celtics are more than of winning either on the road or at home as well, we saw how much of a task the Memphis Grizzlies were for the Warriors in the conference semi-finals, and you really can't say the Celtics can't pull a bigger or tougher threat.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on June 01, 2022, 02:57:25 PM

Celtics are going to be my favourite team in this final series. Warriors are highly the favourite team to win the first game according to bookmakers. I also think that Warriors are going to have a better start than Celtics. However, I think that Celtics are going to bring the score to a tie even if they lose two games in a row firstly. I don't expect Celtics to give up early like Mavericks did against Warriors. My total score prediction is a 4-3 win for Celtics. I feel like it is their time to become the champions now.

The word "Giving Up" isn't applicable right now because it is the NBA Finals already. Giving up isn't an option to both teams.

The defensive capabilities of the Celtics makes it hard to know which will win on this one. Even I have doubts with the Warriors right now and I'm curious on how they will deal with it. The first 2 games will be the most crucial ones because we will have a clearer picture of which team is better. Warriors' offense of Celtics' defense. There is also a famous quote in basketball that says "Defense wins championships" but let's see tomorrow

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on June 01, 2022, 09:15:44 PM

Also, can the Warriors sweep it? There is a chance, I reckon.

In any case, Warriors might win first 3 games, Celtics wins game 4 and Warriors win game 5 for the confetti shower.

There is always a possibility for it to happen like in crypto but the chances of a sweep to happen? Less than 5% maybe and TBH, it will be boring if it will end up as a sweep. Fans want the NBA Finals to be more entertaining than the previous matches. I want to see a 7-game series, many analysts see this series to end in 7 games as well.

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I am not a very big basketball fan, however, I can tell those 8 people who voted for the Celtics good luck and they might only win 1 game or 2 if the Warriors have a rest day hehehe. However, I am quite sure this series will not reach 7 games. Also, can the Warriors sweep it? There is a chance, I reckon.

In any case, Warriors might win first 3 games, Celtics wins game 4 and Warriors win game 5 for the confetti shower.

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I voted for the Warriors as well. They've been on this road before, so they're the more experienced team. If I'm not mistaken, the last time Boston reached the NBA finals was more than ten years ago, in 2010 when they faced the Lakers. So they could definitely handle the pressure better than the Celtics. Also, the team has a great chemistry. They could push toward winning even if their star's movements are limited. Boston, on the other hand, relies heavily on Tatum.

I agree with what you think about the Golden State Warriors and we have the same thought.

But saying Boston Celtics relies heavily on Jayson Tatum? I must say you might miss some of their playoffs game.

No need for an explanation but if you will do some recap on their hard journey this playoff, it might change your view that the Celtics are just about Tatum.

They definitely rely on taytum. No taytum no finals for the celts. When he is playing well the whole other tes focus is stopping him completely opening up the floor for everyone else. Yeah jaylen is important but without taytum jaylen doesn't go off like he does. This isn't a knock but rather just saying taytum stepped into another level this year.

Definitely. No Tatum, no finals for the Boston. Tatum is the team's scoring machine. Not only that, Tatum also contributes a big deal to the team's rebounds and assists. Being aware of this, the man is also the main defense target of any opposing team. That opens up for better plays on the part of his teammates.

I'm not discrediting Jaylen. He's also made a lot of contribution to the team. But he can't be compared to Tatum. If we take a couple of steps back and remember Boston's games against Miami and Milwaukee, which both reached game 7, who actually carried the team toward victory? It was Tatum. Perhaps in each of those series, Jaylen only outscored Tatum in 1 or 2 games.

Of course, basketball is a team game. Props to everybody for the wins, but it cannot be denied that Boston without Tatum is Boston without finals.

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Quote from: Questat on June 01, 2022, 08:33:13 AM

I agree with you on that, I think that the Celtics are just overrated, they play the last 2 series in game 7, so they are not really that good because they can't dominate a match-up. This is just my personal opinion though, I just don't see the inexperienced Celtics will beat the experienced Warriors team.

Awtz. You just discredit what the Boston Celtics did saying they are not good and overrated. Do you really watch the playoffs and just look at the Final score?

Defeating the heavily favored Brooklyn Nets in the first round
Defeating the defending champion Milwaukee Bucks in the ECSF
Defeating the top seed in the Eastern Conference Miami Heat in the ECF

Against the Warriors, they are really the underdog but they are not overrated. That's not what overrated means as overall as Warriors are really the favored to win the Championship. I don't understand why the Celtics are considered overrated. Huh

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Quote from: Beparanf on June 01, 2022, 07:31:06 AM

Momentum wise, Boston has the upper hand but besides that, GSW has the advantage in terms of homecourt and the time they rest and practice for an adjustment to match Celtics gameplay.

Here we go again haha.

Can you explain more clearly, why the Celtics having the upper hand and much "momentum-wise" compare to the Warriors? What kind of momentum is being discussed here? What momentum really means? What are the factors looked at there? Much better if good comparison points can be shown here for much clearer analysis.

For someone who says before that the Phoenix Suns have a 99.9% chance to win against the Dallas Mavericks in the series, and this team has no answer from the dominance of Cp3, Booker, and Ayton, you should be careful next time on any NBA-related analysis. Cheesy

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