Topic: Need 25.000 EURO for two years, 10% interest/year, REAL ESTATE GUARANTEE (Read 2545 times)

Always check whatever document you get by PM with knowledgeable parties.

Nyan, I can present my property in a proper way for anyone interested... I guess that a person who has a real interest will not mind PM me, or send me his email address so I can send details over there.

I did not ask for him to bend, just to behave in the way it is supposed for his chosen collateral.  

Yeah, I don't take risk here. If I want to risk I'll head for the gambling section.

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Why are you wasting time with someone, your just gonna show your bending to his level and hes not going to give loan, he dont like to take risks, just close this thread and move on.

I did NOT request a facebook account or photos! I asked for original documents!


Where I live you sent what is required THEN extras. Also ownership of houses etc. are PUBLIC documents accessible to anyone, please notice that I never asked for your identity, ID card or such.


No LONGER interested. It means there was interest but your disruptive behaviour and insulting words made it fade away.
Because when everything is said and done you got lot of words but no loan. Nice work!


Yes it is! You sent me a Facebook link of a man and some picture of houses. Yours? Must be proven 
Why I'm here? Because I find you funny.

You ATTEMPT TO treat people with pockets deep enough to handle a 25000 EUR investment like children.

That's correct. You asked me 4 type of papers, and before I sent you those, I sent pictures with the property and my own facebook link so you can see that I am a real person (btw. if you would have been looking at my FB photos you would have seen for example the same property in some of those photos, pics made AND uploaded to Facebook years ago).

But the fact that I have sent you these information didn't mean BY ANY CHANCE that it's all I am sending. I have no idea why it hurt that I have sent that too??? There is no explanation for that. The fact that I wanted to send more than you asked for, can not be bad, can it? I was ready to make all the other documents too, YOU ARE THE ONE who told NOT TO SEND THEM because you are not interested.

And then you are the one also, who is telling me that I am refusing to send...

I just can't understand what exactly you want (again). You seems to be confused and while you are stating that you are NOT interested in this loan, you keep coming back and talking around (which is not a problem, just don't try to use your own words against me). AGAIN, just to summarize: I have sent you my OWN Facebook link and pictures of the property (as a gesture of OPENNESS, as in I will be completely open with the person who is going to be interested, about me, property, family, etc.), AND YOU TOLD not to send the documents.

Is this true?

Scammer.


The investor(s), a knowledgeable lawyer at minimum and an interpreter.



Scammer, I asked you for:

1) Professional certified estimation of your property
2) Original ownership documents AND a translation
3) Contact a notary for the required documents, I am pretty sure something MUST be done in person.
4) Pay all the required fees if any.

And you replied with a facebook account link and some UNVERIFIABLE photos of a property. Of course I dismissed everything!! You do not have a clue about what means offering property as collateral.

Don't listen to Killerloop... he is just a troll, and I am sick and tired of him. This deal doesn't involve the disclosure of the documents and other details to a LOT OF PARTIES, as he says, but to ONE party who is really interested and has the money to invest.

I am NOT refusing the disclosure of ANY documents, however I will do that in private if somebody is showing real interest. I think this is very normal thing to do.

With Killerloop I started this process, and I was asking him what documents he needs. He sent me a list of what he wants to see, and after the first round when he has seen that this is for real and that I am ready any time to send any documents, he told to stop and don't make the translations of the documents, because he is not interested. He is just trolling around here... It is not me who backed up, it's him who backed up and told me to stop with the process and don't send documents.

Again, if somebody by any chance is interested in this loan (where the collateral is a serious real estate instead of some no good sh.tcoins), then please let me know/contact me and I will send WHATEVER papers the person WANTS TO SEE. REALLY EVERY DOCUMENT, and EVERY DETAIL ABOUT ME AND HOUSE (including photos, etc.).

By your will to withold information.


Nor do I need or care. You come here asking for a very big loan and refuse to provide all the proofs required.
It is not my fault if you choose a collateral that requires disclosure of personal documents to a lot of parties.

just to let you know it was on the news that American highway construction contractors scammed the romanian gov millions of dollars for a highway job, they never touch or completed.  Dont judge others.

It is here for people who are willing to get a loan offering SERIOUS and NO RISK guarantees to the lenders. The others, scammers included, can leave for the gambling section. There is no need for them.

dont waste your time getting loans, I dont even know why there is loaning forum in the first place.  I had built my rep up so much I cant even get 1 btc,  you have to work hard and save for yourself.  Plus is better that way cause you wont owe anyone anything but the ones that help u get there.

Guys, obviously this is not going to happen...

From the moment I have made this post, attacks started from every angle (started by Killerloop who tagged me a scammer without knowing a thing about me and then continuing about useless discussions about Eastern Europe).

However, in case that someone is interested still can contact me here or on PM, and we can discuss further details. I emphasize again, that ALL THESE IS VERY REAL, 100% LEGAL, I am owning WITHOUT any obligation (no banks, whatever) the real estate I would use as a guarantee AND I can prove this with LEGAL DOCUMENTS. I emphasize again that I am not a needy person, the place I live I might be even considered rich, and maybe I am doing better than the average people from the Western Europe. It's just that ALL THESE doesn't matter here, there is no way one can get a loan from any bank without being actually employed. It simply doesn't matter what you can offer as a guarantee (btw. I got some people telling me that why don't I guarantee with altcoins: the answer is, I don't have altcoins, but I also think a real estate is so much stronger guarantee as an altcoin).

That (the decision of the Romanian National Bank that you need a workbook and being employed to be qualified for a loan at ANY romanian bank) is why I am searching alternative ways of getting a loan (and one of the places I have tried was bitcointalk, decision which I start to regret as this forum is really full with people who speaks in every thread without having clue or real interest, etc.)

I am NOT begging... getting a loan, offering a guarantee of at least 100.000 EURO for 25.000 EURO does it sound begging to you?

So if you as a Romanian are such a big shot what are you doing here begging for money eh? Logics much 

Oh wow, you must be a real financial professional...

Just for your information Romanian Lei (RON), was the best currency for years IN THE ENTIRE EUROPE, the most hunted one from all the investors. In 2013 if I am not mistaking Ro had also the biggest (or second biggest) economical growth in Europe. ALL the big companies (Mercedes, Audi, etc. etc. ) are opening one factory after another all across Eastern Europe, they basically relocating all their business.

Microsoft and Google has and will have the biggest offices across EU in Romania, as here lives the most wanted programmers, and so on.

I just don't get why some people on this forum feel the need to write a few sentence of stupid things, without having the slightest clue of what they are talking about? Or is this a part of your effort nyan1 to try to increase your post numbers in the hope that if they are high enough maybe you can get 0.0000001 BTC for your signature and start spamming everywhere? Of course while you are giving macro-economy lessons to us...

Care to explain why?

I do not understand the language. Is there an english version somewhere?


Like I care about what you think. I am just pointing out holes in your plan.


Nor do I care.


Never said that. Stop talking bullshit and start giving what is due IF you are legit.


Only an idiot would pass up on 25k$ @ 10% year backed up by real estate worth 4x. However you look like a scam not due to your place of birth but your behaviour alone.

At the moment you look like an enraged beggar. Do you understand HOW MUCH are you asking? Well, lending in this forum must be done at 0% PRACTICAL risk to the lender. This is why we ask for 110-120% collateral.

Can you arrange this on your own expense and time? Prove it then, prove your worth.

Killerloop, you are really not reading what I am writing. Search for Romanian banks (I have provided one link above), they ALL require a "adeverinta de salariu", which is your workbook (in Ro every employee has a workbook). If you don't belive Google ANY romanian bank (the biggest ones are Banca Transilvania, BCR, BRD, Bancpost, OTP, ...)

In case you don't have that -workbook-  (as you are not an employee), then it does NOT matter what guarantees you have, as having the workbook is one of the condition to get a loan. You understand?
EDIT: Romanian National Bank introduced a few years ago some VERY VERY strict conditions in getting loans after a while that it was quite easy to do that.

Anyway, I am done explaining to you, it is obvious that you are tendencious and I don't care about your opinion. What I really hope is that I find someone interested nearby, who knows the realities of this country, eventually lives here, and understands the situation, has the necessary money and wants to close a deal like this.

As far as I am concerned, I think that you:
1. don't live nearby and clearly doesn't understand the realities of this country
2. don't understand (or don't want to understand) the situation (all you do is keep making accusations, one after each other towards a person you don't know anything about)... But hey, that's OK, because if one lives in Romania, then it must be a scammer or criminal, right? Problem with this tagging is that while in some cases are true, in most cases are not. If I stay to think about more I was actually scammed by someone who lives in the UK, so go figure that... how the world is looking with tagging persons just like that. I haven't choose to born here (and basically we are a Hungarian family, and some while ago the city I am living was belonging to Hungary... but WW redraw the borders, and we woke up in Ro).
3. obviously you are not interested in closing a deal like this with me, so really don't understand why spending so much time. Take it easy, I am sure that anyone who is interested will go trough all the papers in details, etc.

If someone interested in closing the deal will need a critical eye too, to try to spot the problems or a scam, I will tell him to involve you also, as you are the most critical person towards me on this forum and this way it's guaranteed that nobody will go naively into a trap. I promise this in public, if you accept it of course.

I do not. This is your "claimed" guarantee, so you need to show it and in proper detail if you are serious.


Provide proof, provide proper meaning of paying 30000$ + living expenses. Show us why you can't simply work your way out of these 25000$ and why you need all of them right now.


I do not believe you. Any financial institution would take real estate worth 4x times the loan given out as a guarantee.
Also you said that you bought TWO houses! Some bank has to know you from these dealings and will trust you for such a "tiny amount".

If this is not the case then you are somehow evading taxes or doing some weird number with money. I'll take back the scammer and change it with "criminal".


You provided all the clues I need in the first post and keep digging down with. You aren't fooling anyone.