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Topic: [Need Advice] Which would be best to buy? Hasfast or Cointerra (Read 11573 times)

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The cointerra "march batch" is priced at the same amoutn as the december, january, and february batches.  i'm sure $6000 for 2thash in march will be some absurdly high price

seems like hashfast is even worse, though it says it'll ship sometime 'before march 31st'
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thanks

finally a informative post, yes you are right, if I read the posts here its scary to buy from these 2 companies. Please send me PM or update whenever you receive one of these miners,  really interested to hear the results what these 3 different miners

If other miners start receiving their unit it probably will be to late for you to order, that is the usual thing with bitcoin mining. Risk takers get rewarded  if they receive early a working miner. (or lose it all if it is a scam  Tongue )

Agreed, there is no doubt in my mind that once hashfast and cointerra have stock 'in hand', the price goes up.  the only reason theyre this cheap compared to the others is because its a pre-order and youre being rewarded for taking some risk and given a deep discount.

whereas you look at the price that people are selling 'in stock' miners for and its significantly more than the $3/gh cointerra or $5/gh hashfast prices...

-- Jez
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thanks

finally a informative post, yes you are right, if I read the posts here its scary to buy from these 2 companies. Please send me PM or update whenever you receive one of these miners,  really interested to hear the results what these 3 different miners

If other miners start receiving their unit it probably will be to late for you to order, that is the usual thing with bitcoin mining. Risk takers get rewarded  if they receive early a working miner. (or lose it all if it is a scam  Tongue )
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I don't get it why the question whats best to buy hashfast or cointerra....

I still didn't see a post that someone received a miner from these companies...  or maybe i overlooked

No one has received either Hashfast nor Cointerra gear yet as both of them start shipping in december.

But both are sold out for their december shipments, so if you were to order either of them now you're probably talking january or february deliveries at this point, though you should call them up and see if they have any left in the january batch if you want that.

And the trolls are out in force, so ignore what anyone says and make up your own mind.  they're both good companies and both of them will have excellent products.  The trolls make out one is better than the other, but they're different.  differently priced, and different amounts of gigahashes in each box, so only you can decide what it is you're looking for.

try https://hashfast.com/shop/sierra-third-batch/  and  http://cointerra.com/shop/

(ive ordered from both of them, as well as KnCMiner, who are shipping sooner, but are more expensive per $/GH gear)

-- Jez


thanks

finally a informative post, yes you are right, if I read the posts here its scary to buy from these 2 companies. Please send me PM or update whenever you receive one of these miners,  really interested to hear the results what these 3 different miners


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I don't get it why the question whats best to buy hashfast or cointerra....

I still didn't see a post that someone received a miner from these companies...  or maybe i overlooked

No one has received either Hashfast nor Cointerra gear yet as both of them start shipping in december.

But both are sold out for their december shipments, so if you were to order either of them now you're probably talking january or february deliveries at this point, though you should call them up and see if they have any left in the january batch if you want that.

And the trolls are out in force, so ignore what anyone says and make up your own mind.  they're both good companies and both of them will have excellent products.  The trolls make out one is better than the other, but they're different.  differently priced, and different amounts of gigahashes in each box, so only you can decide what it is you're looking for.

try https://hashfast.com/shop/sierra-third-batch/  and  http://cointerra.com/shop/

(ive ordered from both of them, as well as KnCMiner, who are shipping sooner, but are more expensive per $/GH gear)

-- Jez
newbie
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I don't get it why the question whats best to buy hashfast or cointerra....

I still didn't see a post that someone received a miner from these companies...  or maybe i overlooked

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All Batch 1 BabyJets include MPP.  We initialized the MPP early (Oct 31) to make up for the time lost.

Can you clarify what does "initialized the MPP early" mean?


Doesn't that effectively just get you off the hook to deliver 4x the amount of GHS?

As things are looking right now, by starting MPP on October 31'st, you'll just have to deliver 800ghs per BabyJet, instead of the 1600ghs that it would otherwise take based on the actual delivery.


Unless you still plan to deliver 1600ghs per BabyJet, but deliver it on October 31'st + 90 days.  That would be most awesome.

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At first I was going to tell you hashfast, but after seeing them delay again I have no idea....

New customers buying currently availabe hardware are not affected by the recent clarification of Batch 1/2 shipping dates.

HashFast has chips in hand and is working with two independent design firms to complete a suitable substrate ASAP.

Substrate design, like chip design/NRE/tape-out, is a one time ordeal/expense (unless your design is flawed  Wink).

Customers buying HashFast hardware now will in no way be (negatively) affected by the current race to complete the substrate.

Best,

-HF_CL

Will there be any compensation for those that pre-ordered batch 1/2 babyhash without the miners protection program?

All Batch 1 BabyJets include MPP.  We initialized the MPP early (Oct 31) to make up for the time lost.
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Buy from KNCminer.. thats the best...
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At first I was going to tell you hashfast, but after seeing them delay again I have no idea....

New customers buying currently availabe hardware are not affected by the recent clarification of Batch 1/2 shipping dates.

HashFast has chips in hand and is working with two independent design firms to complete a suitable substrate ASAP.

Substrate design, like chip design/NRE/tape-out, is a one time ordeal/expense (unless your design is flawed  Wink).

Customers buying HashFast hardware now will in no way be (negatively) affected by the current race to complete the substrate.

Best,

-HF_CL

Will there be any compensation for those that pre-ordered batch 1/2 babyhash without the miners protection program?
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HashFast Community Liaison
At first I was going to tell you hashfast, but after seeing them delay again I have no idea....

New customers buying currently availabe hardware are not affected by the recent clarification of Batch 1/2 shipping dates.

HashFast has chips in hand and is working with two independent design firms to complete a suitable substrate ASAP.

Substrate design, like chip design/NRE/tape-out, is a one time ordeal/expense (unless your design is flawed  Wink).

Customers buying HashFast hardware now will in no way be (negatively) affected by the current race to complete the substrate.

Best,

-HF_CL
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KNCminer should be your best bet...

aren't they sold out?

Yup, looks like we got no choice but to preorder from cointerra or hashfast....
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KNCminer should be your best bet...

aren't they sold out?
legendary
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KNCminer should be your best bet...
legendary
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At first I was going to tell you hashfast, but after seeing them delay again I have no idea....
legendary
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The main problem with these ASIC company is they tend to delay their delivery... So don't both anything from both of them...
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On November 8th, less than a week ago, I placed an order with Cointerra for 4 Terraminer IVs at $6k a pop. I will be receiving the February batch. I've done a lot of speculative calculations and determined that my ROI will ocure. Even with difficulty at 3 billion and btc price at <$300 I figure I stand to make a good profit. Of course I wish I would have listened to my friend and started mining when box was worth $.30, but I don't feel it's too late, even with a huge influx of mining power being introduced over the next few months. Then again, if my investment turns out to be a bad one, I'm prepared for the loss.
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Looking at the realistic predictions of BTC difficulty increases I can see that BTC ASIC mining will be a huge gamble for ROI for all entry miners at this point in time at this stage. The ASIC companies cannot keep up or it is not in their interests to do so (to sell upgrades).

Energy price does play a role but if you are going to mine regardless then it should not be a major concern for you if you are already a consumer that uses more energy than average, IMHO. Then you only have to be mining for speculation of rising BTC to $1,000 - $10,000 long term. 2 - 5 years. Of course a lot could happen by this time and another currency may have taken its place (unreal to think of now). The fact remains there are better coins than BTC that are more secure, have protection of 51% vulnerability and faster transaction time. But this also depends on how fast people are on the uptake of this knowledge and BTC may well win because we know the best does not always win but the most popular and liquid one will be used and as a result hold more value with more demand. Having said this the alt coins will follow eventually but they will lag behind. Just a prediction in my opinion and I could well be wrong. Many things can happen that do and have affect prices, just as they do with Forex and Stock markets with geopolitics, only with Crypt currencies the fundamentals vary slightly in the way they influence the market.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/e9004f2169
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/c1b816e7f5

If you got your machine earlier than New Year - 2014 you will be better off otherwise you will likely make a loss mining - so can keep mining for speculative purposes until difficulty increases make this undesirable. IMO, the get rich quick days for early adopters of BTC mining is over unless a tech company can far more out perform current ASIC technologies - lower costs. Of course it is meant to be this way inherently so no single central entity can amass a majority share. Perhaps trading is better to earn a ROI from, I think you will find it is.

Good luck everyone! Even the most ethical (I use the term loosely for want of a better name = opportunists?) ASIC companies that allow escrow payments and have insurance against difficulty increases will not likely net you a profit.
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If only I ordered the batch 1 backorder hashfast at the time I made the post... It's making like $1000 a week Sad, would have gotten roi pretty fast :/. It's just because of the booming exchange rate
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Good news, everyone!

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https://hashfast.com/silicon-in-silicon-valley/

HashFast Silicon has arrived in Silicon Valley!


    Posted on November 8, 2013
    by Amy Woodward   
    in Development, Golden Nonce ASIC, Rig Assembly   

Today we have reached a real milestone:
Silicon Wafers Have Arrived in Silicon Valley!

The silicon wafers have completed fabrication. The silicon is the core of the chip, and the complicated etching process that creates the circuitry on the silicon is finished. Now the process is starting of taking this silicon, with its complete circuits, and packaging it into finished chips. The wafers are now in Silicon Valley, where they will be sliced into individual die, attached to their substrates, and become Golden Nonce chips.

- The HashFast Team
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