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Topic: NEED HELP BADLY! FEDS SIZED 50K CASH and 1BTC FROM HOME WITH SEARCH WARRANT. NY (Read 650 times)

newbie
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all read we are quarantine like anyone one in us
just type us vs goklu
it is real with pregnant wife fighting with feds (actually just staying at home) 
this is Nazi law
ohh btc freedoms supporters no one answer just enjoying their money
newbie
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If this is real, you should immediately stop making any kind of public statements about this to anyone. Hire a lawyer or public defender yesterday and discuss your case with your lawyer or public defender only.

It sounds like you are facing very serious charges, and any public statement you make can be used against you, even if it is poorly worded. 
legendary
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@ene1980 - For the record though, I would like to post BurtW's case so everyone will be familiar, BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!).

Yes Feds are really a pain for most of the time and it's hard to fight back, however, that case is a classic example that if you don't do anything shady, then you can vindicate yourself. However in the OP's case, we didn't hear any updates and the only thing we can do is hope that the guy is OK now.

We did hear updates, he lost a lot of money:

PUBLIC DEFENDERS ARE WORK FOR PROSECUTOR.
Bitcoin and freedom community included those famous who made good money on crypto i contacted many of them no single word  return   Roll Eyes

If you live in a majority English-speaking country, at least learn how to write properly. It hurts your chances of being treated seriously.
newbie
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my case is postponed to jan 2019 and decision yet all attorney is doing is sign pleae guilty thats it,
Seized money car etc is dead in fed,s hand judge didn't asked a single question and attorney says the seizure recover is not his job ??
anyone make an article or have recommending lawyer is welcome please text here via DM , This really insane literally they can put you life threaten trouble for any reason where is the presumption of innocence judge didn't look at single evidence yet ??

PUBLIC DEFENDERS ARE WORK FOR PROSECUTOR.
Bitcoin and freedom community included those famous who made good money on crypto i contacted many of them no single word  return   Roll Eyes
legendary
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@ene1980 - For the record though, I would like to post BurtW's case so everyone will be familiar, BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!).

Yes Feds are really a pain for most of the time and it's hard to fight back, however, that case is a classic example that if you don't do anything shady, then you can vindicate yourself. However in the OP's case, we didn't hear any updates and the only thing we can do is hope that the guy is OK now.
hero member
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~snip
----- still i think he was one the guy fight with them maybe has a few good advises against them
Burt Wagner fought against the authorities and won because they framed him for running an illegal money transmission service for trading bitcoin.

I mention before maybe most of famous crypto  entrepreneur or crypto rich companies must stand this stupid attacks  against crytpo more than drug dealers
The companies cannot fight against the authorities as they will be forced to shut their successful business or they will be forced to move out.

now sent pregnant  wife to family where she can afford herself much better fighting with stupid attorneys.
If your wife was able to fly abroad when you were arrested for money laundering is a rare event. Burt could give you some suggestion on what to do with a case like this.



newbie
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----I was a localbitcoin traders with only 3 transactions  only doing very occasionally  and only 4 transaction  with this undercover in 9 months.
What ever UC was start from $5k and very pushy to $50k and bingo he is undercover.
My only doubt here is that you only made 3 transactions in localbitcoin and not sure how you started trading with this undercover agent and why would an undercover agent target you for $50k when there are users who does sale for millions Roll Eyes.
this is weird to me yes only have 4 transaction on localbitcoin and that sole account of mine ND YES AFTER that they make sure they are still horrible use all advantage of abusive their power,
i use same wallet for getting money from coindex gemini legal accounts for buying antmibers from bitmain (remember many times bitmain was accepting btc bch only)


All source of money source  is clear from ebay amazon sales  wire from other bank and money was keep to purchase a car thru auctions.
Now arrested for money transmitting peer to peer money transfer money laundering (yep 35 year old man can not save this much right ).
It is unbelievable he seduce me  keep asking for months almost every week and i keep refusing finally before this raise i thought lets sent this cash to btc wallet.


Why would someone seduce you to send money and which wallet are you talking about. Even if you send money what is there to file a case against you if the money you are dealing is clean and i want to know what is the evidence they got against you and under money laundering what is the amount they are telling they laundered. Until and unless you have done something illegal and if they agents framed a case against you a good lawyer will help in clearing these issues as they cannot present this as evidence by baiting and forcing you do something you are not interested.
----case agains me is is now money laundering only a good lawyer will help but those attended ones are only plea guilty or your money your assets yourself is locked away. Baiting word is i have 4 transaction from undercover he was keep promising over $50k at %8 less than market that he need cash vs btc ?
and

attorneys asking 20k for their works awesome America.  
If you can appeal this to the court they will appoint a public prosecutor if i am not wrong as i am not aware of the entire procedure.
--- it is not public prosecutor USA vs John Doe really wasting tax payers funds ,

somethings this is insane fbi dea all i guess finish with terrorist drug cartels and working on a bitcoiner for months ??
FBI will not investigate until and unless you are a big shot criminal who has links with your past crimes and had done millions of dollars worth of trade and not because you are a small time bitcoin trader.
----- No before any crime or related to any crminal as said must be a good score for them or who knows maybe a discrimantaion just they like non american names
(id name is 6 years us names those guy sill use old name )

burtW please someone dm him to dm me i can't he is dm closed to newbies
In the case of Burt Wagner he was dealing a lot of coins and hence he was targeted and since there was no evidence of money laundering he was free.
 

----- still i think he was one the guy fight with them maybe has a few good advises against them
I mention before maybe most of famous crypto  entrepreneur or crypto rich companies must stand this stupid attacks  against crytpo more than drug dealers and has advises who know maybe some of tha m says hey get an attorney i ll pay it is small amount to me
well forget about that hard learned

now sent pregnant  wife to family where she can afford herself much better fighting with stupid attorneys.

all money is between
coinbase gemini bittrex (under legal name)
bitmain
amazon ebay
and national bank


hero member
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I was a localbitcoin traders with only 3 transactions  only doing very occasionally  and only 4 transaction  with this undercover in 9 months.
What ever UC was start from $5k and very pushy to $50k and bingo he is undercover.
My only doubt here is that you only made 3 transactions in localbitcoin and not sure how you started trading with this undercover agent and why would an undercover agent target you for $50k when there are users who does sale for millions Roll Eyes.

All source of money source  is clear from ebay amazon sales  wire from other bank and money was keep to purchase a car thru auctions.
Now arrested for money transmitting peer to peer money transfer money laundering (yep 35 year old man can not save this much right ).
It is unbelievable he seduce me  keep asking for months almost every week and i keep refusing finally before this raise i thought lets sent this cash to btc wallet.
Why would someone seduce you to send money and which wallet are you talking about. Even if you send money what is there to file a case against you if the money you are dealing is clean and i want to know what is the evidence they got against you and under money laundering what is the amount they are telling they laundered. Until and unless you have done something illegal and if they agents framed a case against you a good lawyer will help in clearing these issues as they cannot present this as evidence by baiting and forcing you do something you are not interested.

attorneys asking 20k for their works awesome America.  
If you can appeal this to the court they will appoint a public prosecutor if i am not wrong as i am not aware of the entire procedure.

somethings this is insane fbi dea all i guess finish with terrorist drug cartels and working on a bitcoiner for months ??
FBI will not investigate until and unless you are a big shot criminal who has links with your past crimes and had done millions of dollars worth of trade and not because you are a small time bitcoin trader.

burtW please someone dm him to dm me i can't he is dm closed to newbies
In the case of Burt Wagner he was dealing a lot of coins and hence he was targeted and since there was no evidence of money laundering he was free.
 
newbie
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What happened to this case?


If the money you have is legit to buy btc, how is it illegal?


Also, if you have btc and want to sell to friends or people for either cash or bank deposit/wire, isn't that allowed?  I mean as long as you claim it on your taxes, isn't that the same as selling btc to coinbase or bitstamp etc?

His story is very interesting but unfortunately last update was June 5 and he did not come back here to update I've checked his login and this is what shows
Date Registered:   October 27, 2017, 11:36:25 PM
Last Active:   July 05, 2019, 06:06:48 PM
So he is a long time Bitcoiner makin gtranasaction on localbitcoin, his story can happen to anyone here, it's hard to be a migrant in the US and you are transacting big amount of money, I hope he is still ok until now.

okay thanks judafante absolutely right
can happen to anyone here in usa
 
my local bitcoins has only a few transactions
some  of reply on this topic before this page claim this is fake topic bla bla 
 i can give  case name  for search on court records private message only to old members this is not my real member nick of course adding a short abstract of message

1- I buy sell btc for buying bitmain antminers from china mostly or an holder of btc seasonal
2- short of btc because gemini coinbase all get block accounts for long time of periods.
3- bought some from street
4- govs fbi hunting people and entrapped them offer cheap btc less than market
5- i thought my side is not illegal i m just buying or not hash law or punishement
6- search and seizure warrant signed by a judge (learned this is signed so easily must be against constution both 4-5-6-7- )
7- at court as self surrended
8- refused to attended lawyer because i thought i have
8-  bingo things get shit here the lawyer i get deal said some pre judges are not included he dissapper in court (maybe he saw too much job here bye)
9- without lawyer insanely house arrest because prosucotor take advantage of everything and keep attacking to cover their mistake nothing related to drugs guy is destroyed well yea i have to pleae guilty and not sue govs
10- i m home without a lwyer entire months even no allowance for shopping waiting for court date
11- after a month told judge all money is hand of govs i can not afford a attorney get a court attended one
12- another 40 days postponed by lawyer to understand the case (by the way prosucoter keep lie tod judge chamber like this is a wire fraud keep their illegal pushes )
13- now have a lawyer who keep all forfeiture money car yes car paid off car and 1 btc not ask prosecutors let see what their indictment
(even ask let sign guilty get of this shit asap) insane attorney work for them not me
14 - we allow prosucutors another month they are not ready they ask my attorney sure attorney accepted.
15- indictment is there after 4 months finally i m still home arrest 2 strong bail entire house etc.
16- first lawyer passed to a new one because he claim he is deal maker can not fight so i m handed to a new one from another institution.
17 - new attorney just to understand the case another month and my claim is in air nothing bail etc my car paying parking fees etc, who cares about citizens we are at federal court right
18- another month by new lawyer i dont know the reason all i learned is i have to claim assets my self because they are only crimanal attorney not claim assets

-now prosecutors have another month to make their review on tape etc evidences

indictment is all about the undercover gov says he do legal marijuana biz etc for entrapping me.
no drug found no drug usage or any kind of criminal history
just was an easy target to them instead of  experienced hard to fight drug dealers

ohh my life never mentionong anything hard workship of 15 years already in garbage
never went to hopspital last 10 years now get there 20 times including colon cancer check a few small surgery also
wife is pregbnant to risk of losing baby she went back overseas to not lose baby money
money car btc all electronics is hand of gov i m litreally stuck

everyone in this aurora just taking care of their own money and job
so my belive is justice is dead at this point
tried to contact almost everyone famous in btc area with those notices no single return or reply

yep folks those freedom screamers will vanish when someone in same ship need help lol
like burt wagner i thought i can raise funds for at least attorney fees but thats hard to me also time consuming
now i have to figure out 5 years bank statemnts works pay stub checks everything get ready by monday to not lose life long gains to govs.

insane will try answer any questions

IN SHORT GOVS CAN RIP ANYONE IN USA ANYTIME JUST RELATING VIA BTC YOU DO NOT HAVE TO INVOLVE ANYTHING WITH DRUGS HEROIN COCAIN JUST BTC IS ENOUGH TO BE DESTROYED
Weird until now all still procedures single judge didint look what the file is yet WAVVV
Long live justice 

ok sorry for bad english it is not my even second
anyone can held as attorney review at eastern disctrict ny please dm me
or any kind of offer



sr. member
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What happened to this case?


If the money you have is legit to buy btc, how is it illegal?


Also, if you have btc and want to sell to friends or people for either cash or bank deposit/wire, isn't that allowed?  I mean as long as you claim it on your taxes, isn't that the same as selling btc to coinbase or bitstamp etc?

His story is very interesting but unfortunately last update was June 5 and he did not come back here to update I've checked his login and this is what shows
Date Registered:   October 27, 2017, 11:36:25 PM
Last Active:   July 05, 2019, 06:06:48 PM
So he is a long time Bitcoiner makin gtranasaction on localbitcoin, his story can happen to anyone here, it's hard to be a migrant in the US and you are transacting big amount of money, I hope he is still ok until now.
newbie
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You mean Seized by FED? Its hard to fight up into this situation.Is there any Public attorneys available on your place?
Most of them will be available without the need of upfront professional fee or simply free.
full member
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What happened to this case?


If the money you have is legit to buy btc, how is it illegal?


Also, if you have btc and want to sell to friends or people for either cash or bank deposit/wire, isn't that allowed?  I mean as long as you claim it on your taxes, isn't that the same as selling btc to coinbase or bitstamp etc?
newbie
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during 10 months had 4 transaction offer max 50k from undercover and unfortunately entrapped   was trying to get in btc at this last wave.
Now charged for money laundering criminal activity almost 20 different they added to case including game money on ebay also.
The idiot lawyer i had deal when goes first pretrial sold me and said the deal is not included this be patient and go further after this,
Boom home arrested, and now need another attorney but when it is FED attorney start from 75k to 750k crazy money for normal person outside (yep nafia guys will get out quick and keep sales drug at street)
Finally judge convinced and get free attorney.
THIS IS SHAME FED NEED SPENT TAX PAYERS MONEY FOR DRUG SELLERS NOT BITCOINERS.
What ever bitcoin community is ghost on twitter i dm to many bitcoin reach guys to help at least for attorney no one return John McAfee included.
Money source is clear have biz support accounts that money withdrawn from.


http://www.burtw.com/
This guy end up with Cancer now i do understand him.
Awesome country drug dealers fill the streets and fed dae chasing crytpo environment
full member
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Okay so i believe i read it incorrectly... so you had cash and wanted to buy btc right?  You bought btc from others with cash few times.  But he offered you up to 10 percent discount for his btc for your cash?  Did you once ever bought btc from him?


So he offered like 55k worth of btc for 50k cash then?  If you cash is legit... what is the issue here?  How is that different from putting 50k on coinbase and buying 50k worth of btc there?  He also gives you a discount so now you are buying it at a discounted price which is good for you.  If your money is legit, what is the problem here?
full member
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Were you the one selling btc for cash or vice versa?  Im a bit confused with your wording so i assume you are selling btc?   So you didnt want to sell your btc to him but he basically baited you to sell and give you a good percentage a few times?  Example you sell 5k worth of btc for 5250 usd cash?


I mean if you sell btc for cash... then deposit cash in bank and report it in your taxes, what is the issue here?  I believe if you are a bitcoin trader like doing face to face... you need a license.  But aren't those only if you do it frequently?  If you sell bitcoin for cash a few times... that is not your full time job....



Can someone clarify this?
newbie
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Can we have the original post again in English?
Sorry for English if anyone correct i ll be happy get correctone from pm.

No bull shit as soon as goes trial i ll put everything here. (what is my bullshit here please read Wagner story)
The real bullshits feds are going behind people instead of drug cartels.
My guess we hear much more soon..
sr. member
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Can we have the original post again in English?
hero member
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out on bail signed, but everything seized and have no single dollar
So why are you eveb searching for another attorney if you don't have any single dollar behind your back? You just don't expect a good one to do some kind of pro bono case for you because you just posted your situation online, it doesn't work that way. My advice is to stick with your attorney as if you really don't have any money left you don't have any other options left aside from him/her, like I said as long as you are clean nothing bad will happen to you and this shit storm would be over.

I call bullshit.

If this was real he would be rampaging around courtrooms rather than here.
If this was real and his money source real, feds wouldn't be after him JUST TO GET HIS SUV MONEY!

Get real guys! Plus this would be all over the news.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
I am an attorney operating in the crypto/payments space. Its perhaps odd as i closely track any crypto-related filings; and i haven't seen one since May 1 (in Arizona). All of this would be public record on Pacer or for non-attorneys on a site like courtlistener.com
Case sealed now thats why can not be found

Why sealed, by the FEDs? Reality check, $50K is tiny for a serious Federal case to be made, and if they were using you to set an example for others to be afraid, then they would want publicity, not the opposite.
newbie
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I am an attorney operating in the crypto/payments space. Its perhaps odd as i closely track any crypto-related filings; and i haven't seen one since May 1 (in Arizona). All of this would be public record on Pacer or for non-attorneys on a site like courtlistener.com
Case sealed now thats why can not be found
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