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Quote from: nc50lc on April 12, 2023, 07:06:16 AM

Quote from: mrleaker on April 12, 2023, 04:04:25 AM

Can you give me your contact information, or you can PM me via Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910 I really need your help guiding me. I tried as you said but it still doesn't work and it seems that according to the results your Wallet_type and mine are different.

Code:

Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrum2
-snip-
All possible passwords (as specified in your tokenlist or passwordlist) have been checked and none are correct for this wallet.

It appears to be a bug in BTCRecover.

I successfully reproduced the issue by creating a wallet with the same set-up in Electrum v4.3.4 mainnet (and other 4.x versions)
It shows the same wallet type "btcrpass.WalletElectrum2" and failed to find the password.
Upon fully encrypting the wallet file, password recovery works.

I used 3rdIteration's fork, both the latest master branch and the last release version behave the same.
Wallet file from Electrum v3.3.8 works regardless of the level of encryption used.

On the other note: I don't use Telegram, if there's someone contacted you claiming that he's me, it's a scammer.
As o_e_l_e_o said, you'd better keep the conversation public so everyone can participate.

Quote from: flatfly on April 12, 2023, 05:57:05 AM

Interesting - Could you confirm what version of Electrum you have used for this test?

v4.3.4 - latest.
But I found out that the wallet type: "WalletElectrumLooseKey" indicates that it's an "imported" wallet
which only consist of private keys since it's the type of wallet that I've tested in that reply.

Same issue with hashcat, it seems. This type of secrets-only encryption appears not to be properly supported.

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Quote from: mrleaker on April 11, 2023, 05:15:38 AM

When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help.

Save yourself time and nerves and listen to the advice from this post :

Quote from: Yamane_Keto on April 10, 2023, 10:08:46 AM

You can contact WalletRecoveryServices [email protected]

The man has a long-standing reputation and I think that the maximum compensation in the case of a successful job is 20%. It is obvious that you do not understand what others are writing to you, and that you need a professional to do the work for you.

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Quote from: mrleaker on April 12, 2023, 04:04:25 AM

Can you give me your contact information, or you can PM me via Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910 I really need your help guiding me. I tried as you said but it still doesn't work and it seems that according to the results your Wallet_type and mine are different.

Code:

Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrum2
-snip-
All possible passwords (as specified in your tokenlist or passwordlist) have been checked and none are correct for this wallet.

It appears to be a bug in BTCRecover.

I successfully reproduced the issue by creating a wallet with the same set-up in Electrum v4.3.4 mainnet (and other 4.x versions)
It shows the same wallet type "btcrpass.WalletElectrum2" and failed to find the password.
Upon fully encrypting the wallet file, password recovery works.

I used 3rdIteration's fork, both the latest master branch and the last release version behave the same.
Wallet file from Electrum v3.3.8 works regardless of the level of encryption used.

On the other note: I don't use Telegram, if there's someone contacted you claiming that he's me, it's a scammer.
As o_e_l_e_o said, you'd better keep the conversation public so everyone can participate.

Quote from: flatfly on April 12, 2023, 05:57:05 AM

Interesting - Could you confirm what version of Electrum you have used for this test?

v4.3.4 - latest.
But I found out that the wallet type: "WalletElectrumLooseKey" indicates that it's an "imported" wallet
which only consist of private keys since it's the type of wallet that I've tested in that reply.

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Quote from: nc50lc on April 11, 2023, 11:18:57 PM

It works:
I tried it with a test wallet which is not encrypted but has a password: 12345
(BTCRecover referred to it as "WalletElectrumLooseKey")

Interesting - Could you confirm what version of Electrum you have used for this test?

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Quote from: nc50lc on April 11, 2023, 11:18:57 PM

Quote from: mrleaker on April 11, 2023, 05:15:38 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on April 10, 2023, 11:41:11 PM

-snip-
Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.

When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help.

That's what that line is all about.
Electrum will have to derive the required private key from the master private key to be able to sign a transaction.
Since the master private key is encrypted, you'll have to provide the password to gain access to it.

Quote from: mrleaker on April 11, 2023, 01:15:50 PM

I've tried creating a similar wallet that doesn't encrypt files with the password I generate. I then put a password I know into the password list and tried running BTCRecover to see if it could find my password, but it couldn't find it. So I think BTCRecover only works with encrypted Electrum wallets with a password.

It works:
I tried it with a test wallet which is not encrypted but has a password: 12345
(BTCRecover referred to it as "WalletElectrumLooseKey")

Here's the command that I've used:

Code:

btcrecover --wallet test_wallet12345 --tokenlist test_wallet12345.txt

Here's the contents of "test_wallet12345.txt":

Code:

2
5
3
4
1

Here's the result:

Code:

Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrumLooseKey
Wallet difficulty: 2 SHA-256 iterations
2023-04-12 12:18:30 : Using 8 worker threads
225 of 325 [#############################--------------] 0:00:00, ETA: 0:00:00

-snip-

Password found: '12345'

Can you give me your contact information, or you can PM me via Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910 I really need your help guiding me. I tried as you said but it still doesn't work and it seems that according to the results your Wallet_type and mine are different.

Code:

Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrum2
Wallet difficulty: 2 SHA-256 iterations
2023-04-12 15:57:49 : Using 16 worker threads
325 of 325 [########################################################] 0:00:02,

All possible passwords (as specified in your tokenlist or passwordlist) have been checked and none are correct for this wallet. You could consider trying again with a different password list or expanded tokenlist...

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Quote from: mrleaker on April 11, 2023, 05:15:38 AM

Quote from: nc50lc on April 10, 2023, 11:41:11 PM

-snip-
Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.

When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help.

That's what that line is all about.
Electrum will have to derive the required private key from the master private key to be able to sign a transaction.
Since the master private key is encrypted, you'll have to provide the password to gain access to it.

Quote from: mrleaker on April 11, 2023, 01:15:50 PM

I've tried creating a similar wallet that doesn't encrypt files with the password I generate. I then put a password I know into the password list and tried running BTCRecover to see if it could find my password, but it couldn't find it. So I think BTCRecover only works with encrypted Electrum wallets with a password.

It works:
I tried it with a test wallet which is not encrypted but has a password: 12345
(BTCRecover referred to it as "WalletElectrumLooseKey")

Here's the command that I've used:

Code:

btcrecover --wallet test_wallet12345 --tokenlist test_wallet12345.txt

Here's the contents of "test_wallet12345.txt":

Code:

2
5
3
4
1

Here's the result:

Code:

Wallet Type: btcrpass.WalletElectrumLooseKey
Wallet difficulty: 2 SHA-256 iterations
2023-04-12 12:18:30 : Using 8 worker threads
225 of 325 [#############################--------------] 0:00:00, ETA: 0:00:00

-snip-

Password found: '12345'

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@mrleaker your wallet is encrypted. the wallet's secrets are encrypted which is why you have to enter the password when trying to sign transactions.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 11, 2023, 06:39:32 AM

OP PMed me asking to communicate on Telegram. I would reiterate that for the reasons above, you should keep all communication public. If you message random forum users privately there is a high chance of being scammed. Also, I don't use Telegram.

I suggest you download btcrecover and give it a go yourself before enlisting the help of any third parties. The set up guide is fairly easy to follow: https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/INSTALL/

The main question is do you remember anything at all about the password? Length, character set, memorable words, etc? Is it likely to be a variation of some other passwords you use? If you have absolutely no idea what the password is, then you will only be able to brute force it if it was a fairly weak password.

I want you to note that my electrum Wallet is not encrypted and it doesn't ask for a password at all when I open the wallet to check my balance or transaction history, it only asks for the password when I do a bitcoin transfer or extract private key.
I've tried creating a similar wallet that doesn't encrypt files with the password I generate. I then put a password I know into the password list and tried running BTCRecover to see if it could find my password, but it couldn't find it. So I think BTCRecover only works with encrypted Electrum wallets with a password.
If you know any solution that can recover the password for the unencrypted Electrum wallet, please guide me.
My Telegram: https://t.me/MrIces910

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OP PMed me asking to communicate on Telegram. I would reiterate that for the reasons above, you should keep all communication public. If you message random forum users privately there is a high chance of being scammed. Also, I don't use Telegram.

I suggest you download btcrecover and give it a go yourself before enlisting the help of any third parties. The set up guide is fairly easy to follow: https://btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/INSTALL/

The main question is do you remember anything at all about the password? Length, character set, memorable words, etc? Is it likely to be a variation of some other passwords you use? If you have absolutely no idea what the password is, then you will only be able to brute force it if it was a fairly weak password.

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Quote from: nc50lc on April 10, 2023, 11:41:11 PM

Quote from: Yamane_Keto on April 10, 2023, 10:08:46 AM

But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance.

The same way blockexplorers check for balance, just from the addresses or master public key.
Users do not need to paste their seed or private key to check their balance.

Electrum's wallet file is just a long .json human-readable data containing the addresses, transaction history, seed, master keys, some settings and other data.
If the user didn't encrypted the wallet file but set a password as seen here:
https://i.imgur.com/pklZTkS.png
All those data are still accessible by Electrum and still human-readable except the seed and master private key.
Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.

When making a bitcoin transfer, Electrum still requires a password to sign. So I really need help.

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Quote from: Yamane_Keto on April 10, 2023, 10:08:46 AM

But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance.

The same way blockexplorers check for balance, just from the addresses or master public key.
Users do not need to paste their seed or private key to check their balance.

Electrum's wallet file is just a long .json human-readable data containing the addresses, transaction history, seed, master keys, some settings and other data.
If the user didn't encrypted the wallet file but set a password as seen here:

All those data are still accessible by Electrum and still human-readable except the seed and master private key.
Electrum will only ask for password when access to the encrypted data: the master private key or seed are required.

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Quote from: Yamane_Keto on April 10, 2023, 10:08:46 AM

But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance.

If you choose to encrypt the wallet file, then you can gain no information whatsoever without the password.
If you add a password but choose not to encrypt the wallet file, then only the private keys are encrypted. This means you can open the wallet file and view the addresses, balance, and transaction history, but cannot spend anything without the password.

I would add that taking advice from accounts with zero trust asking you to message them privately is incredibly high risk. You can very easily set up and run btcrecover yourself, and you can get all the advice you need to do that in public on this thread.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on April 10, 2023, 05:55:23 AM

If you unchecked "Encrypt wallet file" when creating the wallet, now you can open the wallet file and see your balance, transactions history and addresses, but you will still need the password for making any transaction. Your secrets like your seed phrase are encrypted.

But how did he manage to know the balance? I thought that the seeds and private keys are encrypted using AES-256-CBC, and therefore if you only have the file and without a password, you will not be able to know your balance.

@OP since you did not use any program to generate a strong password, it is probably one of the passwords that you use most often, or at least part of it.
If you can know the length of the password or exclude things that cannot be in that password, then your options will be greatly reduced.

You can contact WalletRecoveryServices [email protected]

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Quote from: flatfly on April 10, 2023, 06:54:03 AM

Quote from: mrleaker on April 10, 2023, 05:31:07 AM

My wallet is a standard unencrypted file, I created it and haven't used it for a long time so I completely lost my password and seed. Recently my partner got confused and paid into this BTC wallet of mine. So can someone help me find my password and 0.5BTC in the my wallet? I will pay 30% to anyone who helps me find my password.
TG: https://t.me/MrIces910
https://i.ibb.co/mvZ1SQt/image.png

Could you confirm what version of electrum created the wallet file?

If the backup file is all you have, I *may* still be able to help with recovery.
I was successful with 2 similar cases recently, where the owners also forgot their
password and seed and only had the wallet file left.

See this topic and just let me know if you need more detail (DM if needed):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61769223

Also be careful not to share any sensitive information in a public post.

For more convenience can you contact me via Telegram or send me your Telegram ID?

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Quote from: mrleaker on April 10, 2023, 05:31:07 AM

My wallet is a standard unencrypted file, I created it and haven't used it for a long time so I completely lost my password and seed. Recently my partner got confused and paid into this BTC wallet of mine. So can someone help me find my password and 0.5BTC in the my wallet? I will pay 30% to anyone who helps me find my password.
TG: https://t.me/MrIces910
https://i.ibb.co/mvZ1SQt/image.png

Could you confirm what version of electrum created the wallet file?

If the wallet file is all you have, I may still be able to recover it.
I was successful with 2 similar cases recently, where the owners also forgot their
password and seed and only had the wallet file left.

See this topic and just let me know if you need more detail (DM if needed):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61769223

Also be careful not to share any sensitive information in a public post.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 10, 2023, 05:50:31 AM

Quote from: mrleaker on April 10, 2023, 05:46:59 AM

I created it a long time ago then the purpose of creating it was just for electrum wallet reference so I can't remember what password I set. When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.

If you typed a password, the wallet file gets encrypted using that password.

If the file was not encrypted, you should be able to spend your funds without the need of a password.

It still requires password to sign when doing btc transfer.
https://ibb.co/h2yDZBd

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Quote from: mrleaker on April 10, 2023, 05:46:59 AM

When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.

This doesn't change anything.
If you unchecked "Encrypt wallet file" when creating the wallet, now you can open the wallet file and see your balance, transactions history and addresses, but you will still need the password for making any transaction. Your secrets like your seed phrase are encrypted.

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Quote from: mrleaker on April 10, 2023, 05:46:59 AM

I created it a long time ago then the purpose of creating it was just for electrum wallet reference so I can't remember what password I set. When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.

If you typed a password, the private keys get encrypted using that password even if the file doesn't.

If the wallet is not encrypted, you should be able to spend your funds without the need for a password.

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I created it a long time ago then the purpose of creating it was just for electrum wallet reference so I can't remember what password I set. When I set the password, I also did not choose to encrypt the file. I only have the saved wallet file left.

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In the case you have some idea about your password and it includes only a few characters, you may be able to brute-force your password using BTCRecover.
Otherwise, there won't be any way to recover your wallet and the fund is gone forever.

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