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shorena

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Quote from: tss on July 19, 2015, 10:34:30 AM

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the exact opposite.
no removal of any old trust.
any account known to be bought or sold should be marked with more feeedback.
accounts with no trust or positive trust need to be left negative as they are no longer in control of the original person who actually earned the positive trust.

Ah, I get it now. I think it was common for a while to mark sold accounts as such.

tss

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Quote from: shorena on July 19, 2015, 04:25:00 AM

Quote from: tss on July 18, 2015, 11:35:04 PM

Quote from: shorena on July 18, 2015, 12:42:10 PM

Quote from: favdesu on July 18, 2015, 10:29:25 AM

for selling an account you should get neutral trust pointing it out. however, the negative trust is not related to selling so...

... the "new" owner of the TF account[1] should get all the feedback removed?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058

haha.. nice one.

it is not against the rules to buy and sell accounts only because it is impossible to control these actions.

any account that openly admits to being bought or sold should be left neutral or negative trust pointing out it is not as trustworthy as it would like you to think.

Again, so a scammer can just "openly admit" that the account was "sold" and get all the negative feedback removed? Is that what you are suggesting here?

the exact opposite.
no removal of any old trust.
any account known to be bought or sold should be marked with more feeedback.
accounts with no trust or positive trust need to be left negative as they are no longer in control of the original person who actually earned the positive trust.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: tss on July 18, 2015, 11:35:04 PM

Quote from: shorena on July 18, 2015, 12:42:10 PM

Quote from: favdesu on July 18, 2015, 10:29:25 AM

for selling an account you should get neutral trust pointing it out. however, the negative trust is not related to selling so...

... the "new" owner of the TF account[1] should get all the feedback removed?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058

haha.. nice one.

it is not against the rules to buy and sell accounts only because it is impossible to control these actions.

any account that openly admits to being bought or sold should be left neutral or negative trust pointing out it is not as trustworthy as it would like you to think.

Again, so a scammer can just "openly admit" that the account was "sold" and get all the negative feedback removed? Is that what you are suggesting here?

tss

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Quote from: shorena on July 18, 2015, 12:42:10 PM

Quote from: favdesu on July 18, 2015, 10:29:25 AM

for selling an account you should get neutral trust pointing it out. however, the negative trust is not related to selling so...

... the "new" owner of the TF account[1] should get all the feedback removed?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058

haha.. nice one.

it is not against the rules to buy and sell accounts only because it is impossible to control these actions.

any account that openly admits to being bought or sold should be left neutral or negative trust pointing out it is not as trustworthy as it would like you to think.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: favdesu on July 18, 2015, 10:29:25 AM

for selling an account you should get neutral trust pointing it out. however, the negative trust is not related to selling so...

... the "new" owner of the TF account[1] should get all the feedback removed?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058

KWH

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In Collateral I Trust.

Quote from: favdesu on July 18, 2015, 10:29:25 AM

for selling an account you should get neutral trust pointing it out. however, the negative trust is not related to selling so...

So, unless a negative is specifically related to a sale, it is to be disregarded?

favdesu

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for selling an account you should get neutral trust pointing it out. however, the negative trust is not related to selling so...

KWH

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In Collateral I Trust.

Quote from: bitsum on July 18, 2015, 09:21:52 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on July 18, 2015, 06:41:37 AM

Unfortunately it would set a very bad precedent to remove negative ratings on accounts with negative trust when the account was purchased already having a negative rating. Doing so would take away incentives for people to not try to scam with their accounts because if they are caught and receive negative ratings, then buyers would be willing to pay the full market rate for the account (or close to it) because they would be confident of their ability to get the negative ratings removed.

I have confirmed via PM that you purchased this account a long time after the negative rating was on your account and bring that Vod is in the default trust network, the account did have a trade with extreme caution rating as of when you purchased the account.

If you had purchased the account before it had negative ratings then a scam was discovered after the fact then it would be possible for me to reconsider the rating if I was sure you didn't fake the sale.

ok its mean you cant delete the neg trust from this acc

actualy i got -2 neg rep [ -4: -2 / +0 ] and im contact the account who neg rep me and then he delete the neg rep so i got only 1 valid neg rep [ -2: -1 / +0 ] and a few hour your trust come up to be valid neg.trust and its become -2 neg rep again ...

Mean has nothing to do with it. The reasons have been clearly explained, you just choose to ignore them.

bitsum

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 18, 2015, 06:41:37 AM

Unfortunately it would set a very bad precedent to remove negative ratings on accounts with negative trust when the account was purchased already having a negative rating. Doing so would take away incentives for people to not try to scam with their accounts because if they are caught and receive negative ratings, then buyers would be willing to pay the full market rate for the account (or close to it) because they would be confident of their ability to get the negative ratings removed.

I have confirmed via PM that you purchased this account a long time after the negative rating was on your account and bring that Vod is in the default trust network, the account did have a trade with extreme caution rating as of when you purchased the account.

If you had purchased the account before it had negative ratings then a scam was discovered after the fact then it would be possible for me to reconsider the rating if I was sure you didn't fake the sale.

ok its mean you cant delete the neg trust from this acc

actualy i got -2 neg rep [ -4: -2 / +0 ] and im contact the account who neg rep me and then he delete the neg rep so i got only 1 valid neg rep [ -2: -1 / +0 ] and a few hour your trust come up to be valid neg.trust and its become -2 neg rep again ...

Muhammed Zakir

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Why did you buy this account even after you saw negative trust?

Quote from: Quickseller on July 18, 2015, 06:41:37 AM

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If you had purchased the account before it had negative ratings then a scam was discovered after the fact then it would be possible for me to reconsider the rating if I was sure you didn't fake the sale.

I don't think so.

Quote from: bitsum on July 18, 2015, 04:42:03 AM

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when iam to be a new owner for this account ?
> 16 july 2015 [ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtsfull-member-acc-1125485 ]

Please Reply my message i can give you my sign message from another my address its linked to another account from this forum

Quickseller

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Unfortunately it would set a very bad precedent to remove negative ratings on accounts with negative trust when the account was purchased already having a negative rating. Doing so would take away incentives for people to not try to scam with their accounts because if they are caught and receive negative ratings, then buyers would be willing to pay the full market rate for the account (or close to it) because they would be confident of their ability to get the negative ratings removed.

I have confirmed via PM that you purchased this account a long time after the negative rating was on your account and bring that Vod is in the default trust network, the account did have a trade with extreme caution rating as of when you purchased the account.

If you had purchased the account before it had negative ratings then a scam was discovered after the fact then it would be possible for me to reconsider the rating if I was sure you didn't fake the sale.

kingofbitcoin

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Good bye Blockchain , you were hacked

Quote from: White sugar on July 18, 2015, 05:37:55 AM

Quote from: kingofbitcoin on July 18, 2015, 05:35:11 AM

If you are talking to me , I don't really care anymore for my feedback, there are already enough loads of weirdos in here, no need to add you to that list.

if you are talking to me, I was talking to bitsum answering him

(even if you don't I still was answering him, so doesn't matter)

Sorry then, good to hear no more weirdos

erikalui

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Sorry but it seems to putting your hand in fire and not expecting to get burned. You bought a negative trusted account and then expect the negative trust to be removed? Who buys such an account which has no value? It appears you were the original owner and hence you are faking a deal to get rid of the negative ratings. Even if it's not the case, it appears this way as nobody would buy this account even if sold for 0.0000000001 BTC.

White sugar

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Quote from: kingofbitcoin on July 18, 2015, 05:35:11 AM

If you are talking to me , I don't really care anymore for my feedback, there are already enough loads of weirdos in here, no need to add you to that list.

if you are talking to me, I was talking to bitsum answering him

(even if you don't I still was answering him, so doesn't matter)

shane

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Quote from: bitsum on July 18, 2015, 04:42:03 AM

Neg trust come from :

> Vod
> Quickseller
> Grand_Voyageur
> Muhammed Zakir DONE

im already sending PM to all my user who neg trust me

why iam make this thread ?
> iam a new owner this account

when iam to be a new owner for this account ?
> 16 july 2015 [ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtsfull-member-acc-1125485 ]

Please Reply my message i can give you my sign message from another my address its linked to another account from this forum

I Think Quickseller never delete his negative trust

kingofbitcoin

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Good bye Blockchain , you were hacked

If you are talking to me , I don't really care anymore for my feedback, there are already enough loads of weirdos in here, no need to add you to that list.

White sugar

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Quote from: bitsum on July 18, 2015, 05:00:15 AM

Quote from: White sugar on July 18, 2015, 04:55:30 AM

Uh quickseller is back to default trust setting list?

People don't remove negatives because an account has been sold, if you really bought this account with the promise they would, you have benn scammed

iam scamed ?
why ?

note :
@kingofbitcoin i will ignore you ..

because your negative trust won't be removed?

kingofbitcoin

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Good bye Blockchain , you were hacked

Quote from: bitsum on July 18, 2015, 05:00:15 AM

Quote from: White sugar on July 18, 2015, 04:55:30 AM

Uh quickseller is back to default trust setting list?

People don't remove negatives because an account has been sold, if you really bought this account with the promise they would, you have benn scammed

iam scamed ?
why ?

note :
@kingofbitcoin i will ignore you ..

Of course you can do what you like, its your choice.

bitsum

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Quote from: White sugar on July 18, 2015, 04:55:30 AM

Uh quickseller is back to default trust setting list?

People don't remove negatives because an account has been sold, if you really bought this account with the promise they would, you have benn scammed

iam scamed ?
why ?

note :
@kingofbitcoin i will ignore you ..

kingofbitcoin

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Good bye Blockchain , you were hacked

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on July 18, 2015, 04:51:09 AM

I saw your message and I won't remove it.

Edit:

Quote from: kingofbitcoin on July 18, 2015, 04:50:23 AM

Oh is Quickseller one of them ?
Why I am not at all even a little surprised

, because thats what that guy does, playing virtual cop in this forum.

Well, if people like you avoid doing shady things, QS won't have to do this.

Oh is your name in the list too, why I am not still surprised. Oh you too play virtual cop sometimes I forgot.

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