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Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 105. (Read 661498 times)

newbie
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And do not forget that you have not updated the development progress since 3/29

"update 3/29: development update https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5973475"
yes, what's happend to nem dev. why we cann't see any real progress just excel allday Angry
newbie
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And do not forget that you have not updated the development progress since 3/29

"update 3/29: development update https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5973475"
newbie
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Still concerning about the stakeholder list?  I would rather to see more technical discussion.

Seriously, how about the project progress?
newbie
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伟大的nem的团队们:
  此时我在电脑前看btc走势,看的心烦意乱,看的心灰意冷,想起了你们,伟大的新经济运动者们!我不知道你们
有没有回头去看看你们的创世贴,当初说的那些有多少实现了,又有多少没有兑现,我不知道你们为什么把NEM命名
为新经济运动,当你站在今天或者明天我不知道你们会不会脸红,害臊。作为经济最核心的契约精神你们做到了多少?
  我们这些拥护者们给了你最大的耐心和鼓励,还专门派了一批拍马屁的围着你们给你们打气鼓劲,也许这是害了
你们,看看你们这几个月做了什么,拿出来给我们看看。我们等于对着空气吹嘘是如何的美好的未来!
  几个月来我们唯一所看到的名单,不停的,永无止境的折腾名单。你们只会玩excel,你就说一下,好吗。别折腾人了。
  大家都知道有个PTS,业界鼎鼎大名的持久战骗子。当初我不厌其烦的在群里解释nem跟PTS是不一样的,我现在
自己也说不清楚到底哪里不一样了,至少人家出了pts让大家玩了个概念,虽然bts以及bts的兄弟们都还是传说。
  我们的每一份投资都是一份契约,你们搞经济运动应该明白,你收了我们的每一份nxt和BTC就是契约的开始,你们凭
什么随意的说开除就开除呢,至少你在创世贴没有声明一个人只能投资2份吧。这就是你们第一次违约,按照现实经济
你们是要支付违约金的,可惜比特圈是个怪圈,我们无可奈何而已。
  现在你们又开始折腾了,说什么把投资者根据回帖数分成1.2.3等级.我知道你是个书呆子,或者根本没有参加过什么
经济活动。我们是股东,我们是投资者,我们负责出钱,我们不负责溜须拍马。为什么回帖少就等级低啊,你们现在
神马都没有凭什么要我们给你跪舔啊。你倒是给我们一个理由。作为投资人我们不一定懂英文,不一定是码农。我们
没本事给你技术上的那些天马行空的意见。但是我们是股东,是投资者。我们负责出钱,你们负责出货。现在东西呢,
该兑现了吧!伟大的团队!
  又来了,搞股份拍卖,圈钱啊。骗完小白开始骗大白了吧。就凭你们这点一天到晚想着,变着法子圈钱的主能搞出什么
好东西来啊。拍卖无非就是想抬高价格啊,但是你们的货呢。给我们看看货色啊。如此空洞的东西你凭什么拍卖啊。老子不
差钱就差没地方投资好东西。但是我不会去买一个画出来的饼。
  不得不佩服nxt的作者,以及现在在努力着的nxt团队,人家是真正做实事的人,你们还一天到晚揪着nxt的辫子说三道四的
还有一帮走狗起哄捧场。但是问题是到现在为止你们憋了这么久的这个屁还是没放出来。nxt拿了多少钱,人家花了多少时间
出的作品啊。一帮庸才构思伟大的新经济运动,别整出个笑话来。我没觉得nxt的股份结构有什么不公平的地方,这真正提现了nxt
是天才的作品。股东们惜售的现实摆在面前。你的nem如果能做到上市几个月没有成交量那才是真正的成功。那些嚷着不公平的恰恰
是当年没勇气,没抓住机会的。也就是吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸的小人。我没吃到葡萄我也不说葡萄酸。因为我是君子。
  我不明白你们是打算等到BTC跌到100美金,或者要等NXT涨到10美金才考虑出作品吗?
  当然,我还是期待你们能真正的放出一个响亮的屁出来。尽快的,不求完美的。没有那个作品出来就是完美的,nxt也在不断
的修正,不断的往前走。前提是你们踏踏实实的做实事。而不是搞什么拍卖,整那个名单。每个投资者都是对你们的信任,
投的越多给的信任越多,你们已经辜负了这份信任。无情残酷并且粗暴的践踏了这份信任。
  我相信你们团队不是每一个都是合格的,无休止无意义的争论肯定是多的一塌糊涂。也就是说空洞的东西太多,干的东西太少。
虚拟币是个快速发展的事物,就像当年的互联网。当年很多尝试被证明是失败的,要么是方向性错误,要么是时机不成熟。nem需要的
是个结构性的产品,而不是完美的产品。不是今天出的就要适应未来几年或者几十年的产品。关键是要有一定的包容,一定程度的
扩展空间能在将来吸收新的概念进来,现在虚拟币的圈子是个概念的时代。各种概念但是大部分是不现实的是经不起时间检验的,nem
要做的是随着时间的推移能不断的吸收新概念,而不是今天把所有的概念都做进去。这才是大师的作品。
  最后,还是期待早日看到nem成为现实,成就伟大。
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hero member
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The "real world" is what pisses people off. It's what we're trying to change. Imho we need to replace fiat not rely on it for the future.

This is what your are proposing (plz correct me if I'm wrong):

I wan't to buy a burger and exchange my fiat for NEM.
I give those NEM to Squidward at the counter.
Squidward imediatly exchanges those NEM for fiat again.

Why on earth wouldn't we just exchange fiat directly ? In your scenario cryptos don't have any purpose.

Imagine the same scenario but Squidward exchanges his NEM for a different fiat curreny then what I bought my NEM for. That's actually what Ripple is all about and it's a great concept but I don't think it's the main purpose of NEM. Imho we should try to get rid of fiat for good.



You say the real world is pissed off, probably  by our governments printing money and creating inflation, right?  

Banks create like 9x more money than governments.

This is true.  Inflation from Government Banks / Printing is only a few percentage, which does add up over the years, but it pales in comparison to money printed out of thin air through fractional reserve banking.  If you deposit $10,000 - the bank takes your money and creates $90,000 out of thin air and issues that capital - the bank gets away with it until there is a bank run.

People underestimate how much damage all this cheap and made up money has caused.  Before these banking practices became standard, almost everyone had access to affordable housing and tuition.  Cheap credit is what largely fuels the housing, stock and education bubble which hurts young and middle aged adults.  Cheap credit even affects basic consumer goods, since people can throw their soda and chicken wings on credit card which results in artificially increased demand for those consumer goods and causes prices to rise in response.  

In a real, sane world, without cheap credit - people would save money to buy the things they want and the prices would remain reasonable due to low demand and competition to attract customers.  Before student loans became mainstream, people were able to afford university tuition and living expenses with a summer job in the 1970s and earlier.   Much like in the 2008 recession when demand plummeted, we saw insane sales and discount offers for the next several years because companies were desperate for any money.

hero member
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In order for NEM to succeed it needs to have services,  merchants need to accept NEM. If you have a business then accept NEM. NEM needs to be in the hands of as many average joes as possible,  so give NEM away for free to them, what's the point of telling them to trade one type of currency for another?  Give them a small amount so they can see how easy it is to use. Maybe setup a online "store" for them to buy NEM merchandise ie: hats, buttons,  stickers,  coffee mugs.
Cryptos need to grow outside of the crypto community in order for it to succeed.

I agree.

I want to see something more substantial than just stickers, t-shirts and other things done a million times before.

I think what would be hugely beneficial is gambling sites for NEM, similar to what NXT had on startup. NXT Dice Roll and Schrödinger's cat -- but ideally more sophisticated.

Don't suppose anyone has this in the lineup?

Just a reminder also; controversy sells. Unless people are prepared to take risks and step out of the status quo with marketing/services for NEM, it'll never get the spotlight it deserves that could, potentially, lead it further. This has been shown true countless times with many crypto's. Breaking the mold is important.
newbie
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Now a little hate you. Do not do business. Will only  Population statistics 
fuck
Really want to scold you FUCK
legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
In order for NEM to succeed it needs to have services,  merchants need to accept NEM. If you have a business then accept NEM. NEM needs to be in the hands of as many average joes as possible,  so give NEM away for free to them, what's the point of telling them to trade one type of currency for another?  Give them a small amount so they can see how easy it is to use. Maybe setup a online "store" for them to buy NEM merchandise ie: hats, buttons,  stickers,  coffee mugs.
Cryptos need to grow outside of the crypto community in order for it to succeed.

I'm impressed by the work of http://www.stickermule.com/ if we want to get stickers.
hero member
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legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

No doubt we have to deal with fiat for the time being - I never meant to challange that (and I don't think I did).
What I meant to say was that we should try to replace fiat in the future. Otherwise why even bother with all the "crypto crap" ?

We share common view on cryptos but I think that unfortunately Sad
the majority of people on this forums bothers with cryptos to accumulate more $$$ or €€€
so they see it just like opportunity or medium to achieve more $$$ or €€€.
Until this mind set does not change nothing in our system can not change either Sad
I'm afraid we have still long way to go until that point when people will finally
realize it that they have power to change the things if they change their mindset
and they change they way of doing things in real life

I see cryptos like an opportunity for each individual to start a business
without a big "entry fee" (license,tax,permits) imposed by government regulation and legal system.
You will say regulation is needed to protect us "the consumer "but i don't think so.
The most of regulations are imposed to protect the big corporations
and not common people as the legal system works for money
is it difficult for common Joe to seek justice against them.

There are today so many laws and regulations that nobody
can follow and everything you do could be punished or charged.

Accepting FIAT means accepting the current state of the things and
supporting the current way the system is working.
I still use FIAT too but I hope as time will pass the share of FIAT that
I will have to use in daily life will decrease day by day and one day
I will be able to move completely to a "New Economy" and say
FUCK OFF to the current fake "democratic system".



One of the best posts I've read. I couldn't agree more.
sr. member
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NEM public auction explanation




Hey Guys

Your Guro UtpianFuture will play with you another few months Cheesy
Do you find it normal?
as long as you want you can hold out for?

Launch is never or, when all have fled or died.

So another couple of months NEM auction stakes, I laugh my limp.

congratulates your guru for his great performance

Guru you are kidding king of people

I laugh my limp, too. I think we should all laugh our limp. C'mon everyone, laugh your limp!
full member
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legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
The "real world" is what pisses people off. It's what we're trying to change. Imho we need to replace fiat not rely on it for the future.

This is what your are proposing (plz correct me if I'm wrong):

I wan't to buy a burger and exchange my fiat for NEM.
I give those NEM to Squidward at the counter.
Squidward imediatly exchanges those NEM for fiat again.

Why on earth wouldn't we just exchange fiat directly ? In your scenario cryptos don't have any purpose.

Imagine the same scenario but Squidward exchanges his NEM for a different fiat curreny then what I bought my NEM for. That's actually what Ripple is all about and it's a great concept but I don't think it's the main purpose of NEM. Imho we should try to get rid of fiat for good.



You say the real world is pissed off, probably  by our governments printing money and creating inflation, right?  

Banks create like 9x more money than governments.
newbie
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So many good news about the proceedings of NEM.
Can't wait to see the alpha.  Grin
legendary
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maybe we'll get 1000 likes too on facebook that time, would be great Wink

come on cakemaker...
sr. member
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Step into a world!! A P2P world!
is somebody making (drawing... whatever) a cake for the 400th page??

 Grin
legendary
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For our NEM auction and launch press releases, we can use PRWeb. They reach 30,000 journalists, bloggers and influencers. http://service.prweb.com/pricing/

The financial package is only $450. It includes Bloomberg, Wall Street Journal, Yahoo Finance, New York Times, USA Today, Associated Press... A lot of bang for the buck. If it gets picked-up, it will be well worth it.
http://service.prweb.com/pricing/package/financial/
very very very nice  Smiley
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