Topic: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread - page 185. (Read 661498 times)
April 20, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
NEM is a definite hold
April 20, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
I am HUGE supporter of having multipool.
Pat, I think that you are a great guy and true idealist, but Im afraid that free market competition is not a place where idealists succeed.
NEM is still green, you still can use it and maintaine it without damaging nature.
Multipool could do wonders for NEM, whit this I think we will no just enter top 10 marketcap, but stay there.
In combination with huge community and right marketing, we could establish NEM as superior to all other alts.
I am ecofriendly person myself, I used to voluntarily help in animal shelter facility, but in order to manage helping those animals efficiently, we also used cars polluting enviroment.
Pat, I think that you are a great guy and true idealist, but Im afraid that free market competition is not a place where idealists succeed.
NEM is still green, you still can use it and maintaine it without damaging nature.
Multipool could do wonders for NEM, whit this I think we will no just enter top 10 marketcap, but stay there.
In combination with huge community and right marketing, we could establish NEM as superior to all other alts.
I am ecofriendly person myself, I used to voluntarily help in animal shelter facility, but in order to manage helping those animals efficiently, we also used cars polluting enviroment.
April 20, 2014, 10:48:49 AM
I feel something huge is coming towards us! 
Good huge or bad huge?
It feels like a min. 40 000 000 $ market.
Btw.:
It would be very interesting to know current marketcap through our investments.
If everyone is getting involved, 40 million cap is no problem. If everyone chooses to sell half of their holding upon launch, then it will take a while to get there.
In the long term, it is all about what kind of technological products NEM can bring to the world and what kind of user adoption NEM community can drive forward. We have some cool projects post V1 blockchain, I hope every stakeholder can stay with the development team until then.
April 20, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
I feel something huge is coming towards us!
Good huge or bad huge?
It feels like a min. 40 000 000 $ market.
Btw.:
It would be very interesting to know the current marketcap through our investments.
April 20, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
Guys just chill. Leave the devs alone. They did the work they should be rewarded.
Be happy with your share. spread the word.
Be happy with your share. spread the word.
April 20, 2014, 10:34:51 AM
I feel something huge is coming towards us!
Good huge or bad huge?
April 20, 2014, 10:30:44 AM
I will take this opportunity to weigh in on the myriad of issues currently being discussed.
Failure to capitalize on the multi-pool proposal because of green issues is a mistake in my opinion. There are multiple arguments that favor this profitable endeavor. I propose we donate some of the revenue to Carboncoin to offset any concerns regarding the environment. This would benefit NEM two-fold. We would create profits for the NEM community, and at the same time, show the community at large that NEM is responsible and covers its obligations regarding the environment. Let us not forget that we would be introducing NEM to others that would otherwise not become involved.
10% to the Developers is much lower then what is usually the case in this scenario.
The auction proposal being adopted is going to bring needed attention to NEM, and allow the market price to be introduced. Two thumbs up here!!
I also have a question. What is the reasoning behind NEM conducting zero pre-launch marketing? This will make investors at launch place less value on the potential of NEM.
I am very impressed with the NEM project. I don't believe anyone could argue that this is not the coin with the most potential in 2014.
Failure to capitalize on the multi-pool proposal because of green issues is a mistake in my opinion. There are multiple arguments that favor this profitable endeavor. I propose we donate some of the revenue to Carboncoin to offset any concerns regarding the environment. This would benefit NEM two-fold. We would create profits for the NEM community, and at the same time, show the community at large that NEM is responsible and covers its obligations regarding the environment. Let us not forget that we would be introducing NEM to others that would otherwise not become involved.
10% to the Developers is much lower then what is usually the case in this scenario.
The auction proposal being adopted is going to bring needed attention to NEM, and allow the market price to be introduced. Two thumbs up here!!
I also have a question. What is the reasoning behind NEM conducting zero pre-launch marketing? This will make investors at launch place less value on the potential of NEM.
I am very impressed with the NEM project. I don't believe anyone could argue that this is not the coin with the most potential in 2014.
April 20, 2014, 09:30:59 AM
I feel something huge is coming towards us!
April 20, 2014, 09:08:51 AM
Good idea about the auction of shares,About the auction I have some immature perspective:
1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
anyone want to sell??1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
April 20, 2014, 09:05:40 AM
Good idea about the auction of shares,About the auction I have some immature perspective:
1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
anyone want to sell??1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
April 20, 2014, 09:04:36 AM
I'm selling my Nem stake for 4 bitcoins This stake, 1 if 3,000 stakes total will bring you ~1 million NEM coins when the coin goes live. Distribution will take place through forum stakeholder accounts through pms claims only.
Upon payment, you'll receive account login details for the bitcointalk account tied to the purchased stake.
Upon payment, you'll receive account login details for the bitcointalk account tied to the purchased stake.
April 20, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
i actually had an idea last night... can we get a multipool mining now? i mean launch the multipool now and let it build up the btc until the coin actually launches? the mining power it could draw due to the massive interest in nem would be huge! and plus if btc takes a massive run up again you will see the dificulty of most coins go through the roof again... why not build up some funds up.. if nem wants to drop a bit after launch let it.. then after the drop start buying up with the mined funds..? what you think?
Pat I know you don't like this, but this would make NEM BTC!
Also, this is something that would also gain NEM exposure.
What does everyone think of this?
I think it is an AMAZING IDEA!!
This would most likely bring a lot of people into NEM. Weighing the pros and cons, I think this should be set up right away!!
April 20, 2014, 08:40:07 AM
Initially, was advertised the fair distribution of NEM, and now yet only 75% are distributed to stakeholders!
@ Utopianfuture
The remaining 25% be used in the meantime to forking?
That would be very unfair!
@ Utopianfuture
The remaining 25% be used in the meantime to forking?
That would be very unfair!
max 10% for devs
remain min 15% for future dev of the ecosystem, bounties, charity, whatnot
What do you mean forking ?
Here is something to think about for everyone.
FAIR is not the same as EQUAL
If someone puts in 100% more work than someone else then it is fair for that person to get 100% more out of it don't you think ?
Do you think it would be more fair if a dev that devotes many hours each week into developing the software get's an equal amount of NEM as someone thats has merely paid a small fee to join NEM ? That would not be fair that would just mean they get an equal amount.
Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders than he's generous not fair. It would have been very fair of him to take more.
Please keep this in mind guys when discussing "fairness" in the future.
I support pat in this matter. IMO, the proposal about distribution is not only fair but very smart. One of my earlier concerns was how we are going to deal with the fact that we need to give value to NEM. This requires a lot of investment and, as stakeholder I am committed to do it, but I also want to have some part to profit. The fact that 25% of the distribution is devoted to auction, charity, funding projects, etc maximizes the gain probability of our own stakes. So, I am very very happy that UP and the Dev team took this decision. Regarding the 10% of that part to compensate the dev team effort, I think it is more than fine. They deserve some recognition for all the work organizing the community, building the code from the scratch that are important factors in all the interest generated by NEM. I'm really looking forward the alpha launch and anxious to see the progress!
April 20, 2014, 08:38:07 AM
The deal so far has been very very good for a regular stakeholder. Each core developer will get about 60-80 times a regular stake but let me be frank if you are a helpful stakeholder who run a node and contribute to NEM marketing from times to times, a core developer contributes about 1000 times more than you do. And I only estimate that until V1 blockchain completed because if all core developers stay with NEM until NEM technological road-map being completed, they will contribute way way more than that.
I do my best to keep key developers staying with us for a long term and make NEM (and its ecosystem) the most advanced technological system possible and that would be the way to treat our developers. I hope this would be the message to all other developers out there as well. But not only NEM key developers would be rewarded monetarily, I believe we have a coherent vision and a technological road-map that would make NEM one of the most successful decentralized system in one year.
You should believe me otherwise you can leave and go after other blockchain such as Nxt, Nas, Blackcoin or whatever coin out there. Talented people drive technological progress and NEM concept of fairness is to set the incentive system in the right place. NEM system rewards people who contribute the most not to reward some rich investors or some lucky random people. If anyone fails to understand this point, he should consider leaving for the next fairest and free coin out there.
I do my best to keep key developers staying with us for a long term and make NEM (and its ecosystem) the most advanced technological system possible and that would be the way to treat our developers. I hope this would be the message to all other developers out there as well. But not only NEM key developers would be rewarded monetarily, I believe we have a coherent vision and a technological road-map that would make NEM one of the most successful decentralized system in one year.
You should believe me otherwise you can leave and go after other blockchain such as Nxt, Nas, Blackcoin or whatever coin out there. Talented people drive technological progress and NEM concept of fairness is to set the incentive system in the right place. NEM system rewards people who contribute the most not to reward some rich investors or some lucky random people. If anyone fails to understand this point, he should consider leaving for the next fairest and free coin out there.
you started behaving like this coin is your property
No. It is not his property. He is the leader of NEM. Even if something is decentralized, there can still be a leader that everyone chooses to follow. And I am not talking about the King or even a President here either. Decentralized does not mean that we all just do whatever we like. There has to be a leader.
UP has shown time and time again that he will listen to the community if there is something they want.
For instance this example. I am not UP, but I fully agree with what he said and did. As do most of the rest of us.
So you are in the minority here. And even in a decentralized environment the single or small minority does not just get his way. This is a good thing because you make no sense to me.
April 20, 2014, 08:30:38 AM
Good idea about the auction of shares,About the auction I have some immature perspective:
1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
anyone want to sell?? 1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
April 20, 2014, 08:29:28 AM
Someone said earlier that BCNext was the fairest developer. That's not true. If he really didn't take more than any of the other stakeholders
No, he didn't, and that needed to be said given a lot of people bash nxt in this thread for "unfair" distribution which is a pathetically dishonest criticism as nxt IPO was open to anyone for 2 months and Bcnext (the developer) didn't demand any extra shares for himself.
One thing we can say about nxt inventor: he wasn't greedy.
Doesn't he own ~5% of NXT?
April 20, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
Good idea about the auction of shares,About the auction I have some immature perspective:
1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
1. I think we can more than hold several auctions, such as once a month, every 30 places so that people can continue to focus nem, nem improve visibility, as 3i's AGS.
2.Lowest closing price in the first round as the second round of the auction the auction starting price, and so on. This ensures the continued appreciation of the value of nem.
Finally, I hope nem able to get more attention, greater development.
April 20, 2014, 07:46:39 AM
Password headaches
Long and lengthy complex passwords are tedious necessities. Could Photo passwords (not my idea)
be incorporated into the client ?
Are there security risks, photo > usb drive > pc > client ?
Is it more secure to just use key scramblers?
i am often put off sending any funds because i simply can not be bothered with the passwords. Accessing a photo on a phone with a pin would make sending so much easier and more every day usable.
Long and lengthy complex passwords are tedious necessities. Could Photo passwords (not my idea)
be incorporated into the client ?
Are there security risks, photo > usb drive > pc > client ?
Is it more secure to just use key scramblers?
i am often put off sending any funds because i simply can not be bothered with the passwords. Accessing a photo on a phone with a pin would make sending so much easier and more every day usable.
April 20, 2014, 07:33:48 AM
There would be the possibility to hire this banner on the top, when the time comes
------> http://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/
It's one of the biggest german blogs writing about altcoins and would be a great advertisement for just 0.1BTC/10 days
Also he would hide his lettering in the jpg. and write an article about NEM for another 0.1BTC.
May we could even bargain, so it would be definitely worth it!
I'm German and would love to arrange this, if the community agrees.
↓
Werbung beim Altcoinspekulant
April 8, 2014UncategorizedMarketing, Werbefläche, Werbung
Sie möchten Werbung für Ihr neues Kryptoprojekt machen? Der Altcoinspekulant stellt Ihnen eine große und interessante Werbefläche zur Verfügung. Den großen Banner (aktuell mit Litecoin-Münzen) können Sie bereits ab 0.1 BTC mieten (10 Tage für 0.1 BTC). Dazu benötige ich ein Bild in JPG-Format mit einer Auflösung von 1600×230 Pixeln. Ich würde meinen Schriftzug komplett ausblenden, so dass der Banner optisch voll zur Geltung kommt. Eine Verlinkung von Inhalten ist über den Banner nicht möglich, es handelt sich um eine rein optische Anzeige.
Zusätzliche Kosten für einen frei von Ihnen gestalteten Textbeitrag, den ich zeitgleich veröffentlichen würde: 0.1 BTC.
Nutzen Sie die Chance Ihr Kryptoprojekt bei einem der grössten deutschsprachigen Krypto-Blogs bekannter zu machen. Bei Interesse bitte ich Sie um eine Mail an [email protected]
------> http://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/
It's one of the biggest german blogs writing about altcoins and would be a great advertisement for just 0.1BTC/10 days
Also he would hide his lettering in the jpg. and write an article about NEM for another 0.1BTC.
May we could even bargain, so it would be definitely worth it!
I'm German and would love to arrange this, if the community agrees.
↓
Werbung beim Altcoinspekulant
April 8, 2014UncategorizedMarketing, Werbefläche, Werbung
Sie möchten Werbung für Ihr neues Kryptoprojekt machen? Der Altcoinspekulant stellt Ihnen eine große und interessante Werbefläche zur Verfügung. Den großen Banner (aktuell mit Litecoin-Münzen) können Sie bereits ab 0.1 BTC mieten (10 Tage für 0.1 BTC). Dazu benötige ich ein Bild in JPG-Format mit einer Auflösung von 1600×230 Pixeln. Ich würde meinen Schriftzug komplett ausblenden, so dass der Banner optisch voll zur Geltung kommt. Eine Verlinkung von Inhalten ist über den Banner nicht möglich, es handelt sich um eine rein optische Anzeige.
Zusätzliche Kosten für einen frei von Ihnen gestalteten Textbeitrag, den ich zeitgleich veröffentlichen würde: 0.1 BTC.
Nutzen Sie die Chance Ihr Kryptoprojekt bei einem der grössten deutschsprachigen Krypto-Blogs bekannter zu machen. Bei Interesse bitte ich Sie um eine Mail an [email protected]
April 20, 2014, 07:31:37 AM
i actually had an idea last night... can we get a multipool mining now? i mean launch the multipool now and let it build up the btc until the coin actually launches? the mining power it could draw due to the massive interest in nem would be huge! and plus if btc takes a massive run up again you will see the dificulty of most coins go through the roof again... why not build up some funds up.. if nem wants to drop a bit after launch let it.. then after the drop start buying up with the mined funds..? what you think?
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
I'm not feeling the multipool idea. Yeah it stabilizes the price but it also throws the "green" out the window.
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