[NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- - page 23.

patmast3r

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Quote from: Porte on February 18, 2014, 05:16:27 AM

I do understand patmast3r , please can you tell me how I can attach or do a screenshot here I can not see the option,

You can use http://picpaste.com/ to upload the pic and then use the image function of the forum to link to it or simply post the link.
If you'd like to keep it private you can also send me a pm.

Thank you for understanding.

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I do understand patmast3r , please can you tell me how I can attach or do a screenshot here I can not see the option,

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Quote from: Porte on February 18, 2014, 04:55:58 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on February 18, 2014, 04:23:47 AM

Quote from: Porte on February 18, 2014, 04:01:51 AM

Quote from: Porte on February 16, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295 Porte 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash
1319 bitrut123 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016, and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

Of course he could know that. You do realize the blockchain is public right ? If your original post stated that you sent 0.0161 I would have cleared you but since both posts only state that 0.016 were sent I can't do that. It's only fair that you have to proof the ownership as anyone else does. What if bitrut123 comes and claims the same thing - how could I know who's lying ?

I agree that it's unfair that you have to make a transaction if you are the victim here but it's what's necessary to make sure no one that has not paid the fee get's a stake. Like I said, you can also provide a screenshot of your client showing that transaction.

If you wan't to clear that with someone from the core team PM utopianfuture but he'll tell you the same thing.

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 18, 2014, 04:23:47 AM

Quote from: Porte on February 18, 2014, 04:01:51 AM

Quote from: Porte on February 16, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295 Porte 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash
1319 bitrut123 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016, and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

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Quote from: Porte on February 18, 2014, 04:01:51 AM

Quote from: Porte on February 16, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295 Porte 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash
1319 bitrut123 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

Porte

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Quote from: Porte on February 16, 2014, 06:50:36 PM

Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295 Porte 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash
1319 bitrut123 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 1 duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte

Please can you reply to this

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Quote from: dx5 on February 18, 2014, 01:15:53 AM

Hello, on page 14 I sent some Bitcoins that my friend sold to me to buy a stake, but after hours it was unconfirmed and I ended up losing the Bitcoins. It was just weird and makes me not trust Bitcoins anymore after Googling the problem and seeing that other people had the same problem.

Is there a way for me to pay that stake? And if yes, how much?

Here is page 14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.260

I'm sorry but your transaction seems to be lost. I can't even find it in the blockchain anymore. It's possible that there was something wrong with your client or the blockchain that your client held. Before making a TX you always need to make sure that your blockchain is up to date.

All I can do at this point is request you to pay the fee (amount as it was when you first tried so 0.04 BTC) again.

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Quote from: uccoins on February 17, 2014, 05:00:20 PM

My name is on the list, but I don't have a Y next to me, not sure why, I sent my investment early on as detailed here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4651630

Do I need to do anything else to get the Y? Thanks

I answered your pm

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Hello, on page 14 I sent some Bitcoins that my friend sold to me to buy a stake, but after hours it was unconfirmed and I ended up losing the Bitcoins. It was just weird and makes me not trust Bitcoins anymore after Googling the problem and seeing that other people had the same problem.

Is there a way for me to pay that stake? And if yes, how much?

Here is page 14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.260

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My name is on the list, but I don't have a Y next to me, not sure why, I sent my investment early on as detailed here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4651630

Do I need to do anything else to get the Y? Thanks

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Quote from: falseflag14 on February 17, 2014, 03:14:58 PM

Quote from: patmast3r on February 16, 2014, 08:11:54 AM

Quote from: falseflag14 on February 16, 2014, 07:15:29 AM

on stakeholder list I am put down as duplicate hash. My hash is first so I dont see how it can be me at fault.
my number on list is 2749-thread 2.
i sent 1 nxt coin to prove it was my account and transaction number is 2260315738946426351

I check other guy Knisch on blockchain---he sent 700 nxt after me on another transaction number. I think he put my number down as mistake?

I'll add a comment to the stakeholderlist that you are legit. Thanks for providing proof.

cant see comment after a day.worried I will not be on final list.maybe you not had time yet.? Sorry if your busy.!!!!

Weird. I guess I didn't save the comment or something. Well it's there now. Sorry about that.

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 16, 2014, 08:11:54 AM

Quote from: falseflag14 on February 16, 2014, 07:15:29 AM

on stakeholder list I am put down as duplicate hash. My hash is first so I dont see how it can be me at fault.
my number on list is 2749-thread 2.
i sent 1 nxt coin to prove it was my account and transaction number is 2260315738946426351

I check other guy Knisch on blockchain---he sent 700 nxt after me on another transaction number. I think he put my number down as mistake?

I'll add a comment to the stakeholderlist that you are legit. Thanks for providing proof.

cant see comment after a day.worried I will not be on final list.maybe you not had time yet.? Sorry if your busy.!!!!

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wow yes very sorry did not see the tabs >.<
thank you for the quick response, you guys are handleing all of this AMAZINGLY!!!
keep up the good work!

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Quote from: aigareth on February 17, 2014, 08:30:19 AM

I`ve sent 700 NXT 3 days ago, but in stakeholder list I was suspect to be a fraudster.
I am come from china, maybe there are something wrong in my Transaction. I opened my wallet today, and I found my NXT coins are the same, so I resent 700 NXT to 14343293611098709683.

please Cry

I am not a fraudster,please check it, thank you!
my Transaction id: 6418516068958028500

You are not marked as fraudster. I can only see a "Y" next to your name. No comment or anything.

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I`ve sent 700 NXT 3 days ago, but in stakeholder list I was suspect to be a fraudster.
I am come from china, maybe there are something wrong in my Transaction. I opened my wallet today, and I found my NXT coins are the same, so I resent 700 NXT to 14343293611098709683.

please Cry

I am not a fraudster,please check it, thank you!
my Transaction id: 6418516068958028500

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Bitcoin is a bit**

Quote from: patmast3r on February 16, 2014, 03:01:02 PM

I've added a comment about that in the stakeholder list. If your hash turns out to be unique you're all set

THANKS!!! Now i can sleep much better;)

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 17, 2014, 02:58:15 AM

We're only human and we have jobs so plz be patient. Everyone will get their stake (except those fraudsters).

I hope, just that sometimes reminds himself to be remembered ...

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Quote from: Elena82 on February 17, 2014, 02:54:17 AM

Quote from: patmast3r on February 17, 2014, 02:41:22 AM

You are there. USE THE TABS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SPREAD SHEET to find your username on the page you posted.

When, approximately, will generate the final list of participants? For example my name there is still no (Elena82). I was asked to wait and not to worry. If you want, I can provide all the evidence of my translation 1500 NXT

There is not eta but I'm guessing it'll be this week.
I'm going to have to again to ask you to wait and not to worry

We're only human and we have jobs so plz be patient. Everyone will get their stake (except those fraudsters).

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Quote from: patmast3r on February 17, 2014, 02:41:22 AM

You are there. USE THE TABS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SPREAD SHEET to find your username on the page you posted.

When, approximately, will generate the final list of participants? For example my name there is still no (Elena82). I was asked to wait and not to worry. If you want, I can provide all the evidence of my translation 1500 NXT

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From now on plz follow these simple rules when posting a complaint:

- If you can't find your username make sure you have checked all the tabs (visible at the bottom) in the spreadsheet.
- If you are marked with "duplicate hash" plz provide a link to your original post as well so we can check your TX faster.

As Utopian explained we need you to send another small amount to confirm the address is controlled by you. A screenshot of the TX in your wallet will also do.

We can't accept fund from exchanges because we can almost never make sure it's really your account. It will be harder to proof yourself (not impossible though) if you've sent the fee from an exchange.

Thank you for understanding.

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