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Topic: [NEM] Project Trust & Credibility DEAD, utopianfuture admitted HOAXING** - page 2. (Read 2618 times)

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just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.

yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem.

hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name  Roll Eyes

what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u

well he's involved in a coin which has risen a lot in value even before release...

hmm...whats about the coin you created...? ...argh wait....right...

sorry I asked for examples of good work not random sentences, can u provide some please?

well if you just explained "utopianfuture is everywhere under different names" please proof he haven't done this, for example:

hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.

yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem.

hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name  Roll Eyes

what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u

well he's involved in a coin which has risen a lot in value even before release...

hmm...whats about the coin you created...? ...argh wait....right...

sorry I asked for examples of good work not random sentences, can u provide some please?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.

yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem.

hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name  Roll Eyes

what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u

well he's involved in a coin which has risen a lot in value even before release...

hmm...whats about the coin you created...? ...argh wait....right...
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.

yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem.

hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name  Roll Eyes

what good work? can u post some examples please? thank u
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.

yeah...exactly the right move to keep up the good work without getting annoyed by crying babys who could never set up an own coin - much less a project like nem.

hopefully mother utopionfuture isnt too sad when the loved son changes his name  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
just FYI utopianfuture did not really step back. he had to do this post cuz his name is ruined. hes still active in the project under different names. NEM is full of him. do not dare to believe hes gone as he claims, which can clearly be regarded as nothing but another lie.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
what an obvoius smear campaign...

i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was....

well, i dont tell...you wont belive it  Shocked

too much blabla

send me 2 BTC and i give you a name Wink

if u knew, if u only knew what i know...

you mean.....?


hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
I noticed you just just changed the title from scam to hoaxing

Hoaxing is definitely a more accurate term here.  No money was scammed but did he create fake popularity in NEM and that's scandalous, no one can argue otherwise, but I don't think it's a severe thing since practically every coin pads up interest in the beginning with fake accounts (it's a marketing technique).


yes, im sorry. scamming was incorrect  hoaxing fits better.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 506
I noticed you just just changed the title from scam to hoaxing

Hoaxing is definitely a more accurate term here.  No money was scammed but did he create fake popularity in NEM and that's scandalous, no one can argue otherwise, but I don't think it's a severe thing since practically every coin pads up interest in the beginning with fake accounts (it's a marketing technique).
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
what an obvoius smear campaign...

i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was....

well, i dont tell...you wont belive it  Shocked

too much blabla

send me 2 BTC and i give you a name Wink

if u knew, if u only knew what i know...
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
what an obvoius smear campaign...

i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was....

well, i dont tell...you wont belive it  Shocked

too much blabla

send me 2 BTC and i give you a name Wink
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
He was using marketing techniques, a wrong marketing technique but at the same time to label him a scammer after all his time and work in the community is wrong everyone makes mistakes.

well i would not call him scammer but a liar and a sunken Fuhrer. What he embraced was the opposite of what he did. thats pretty intense.

I completely agree. It is a very wrong move and will affect progression because of a stopping point. Before this NEM has 0 negativity surrounding it. I will reiterate, everyone makes mistakes However, he has to get paid for his work. He has done a large amount of open work, he has admitted to the mistakes is trying to build openess and positivity. For me the breadth and depth of the NEM community at this point will not let the project fail. He was open and honest about his decisions and process within the project - in my mind it is not the best decision for him to resign but at the same moment there is a large amount of outside pressure, he is a great component and inter actor. We can all learn and move on from this, there is always problems in project development whether it be staff or the actual software development NEM is still moving forward and I respect everyone’s involvement from the beginning. I believe he was trying to push the project as much as possible.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
what an obvoius smear campaign...

i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was....

well, i dont tell...you wont belive it  Shocked

too much blabla
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 506
The title is misleading. UtopianFuture didn't scam anyone out of money - all he did was create fake accounts, at the very beginning, to make NEM look more popular than it really was.   No different than having fake likes on Facebook.  This doesn't change NEM's distribution or it's huge positive community. 

 Satoshi back in 2009 was probably posting under a dozen aliases to make Bitcoin look more popular and exciting than it was at the time.  Does that make Bitcoin a scam?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
what an obvoius smear campaign...

i know the guy who made the accounts...it wasnt utopianfuture...it was....

well, i dont tell...you wont belive it  Shocked
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
He was using marketing techniques, a wrong marketing technique but at the same time to label him a scammer after all his time and work in the community is wrong everyone makes mistakes.

well i would not call him scammer but a liar and a sunken Fuhrer. What he embraced was the opposite of what he did. thats pretty intense.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
He was using marketing techniques, a wrong marketing technique but at the same time to label him a scammer after all his time and work in the community is wrong everyone makes mistakes.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 520
ok, now you should stop spamming, it's boring, you won't kill NEM

ur post is spam as its completely useless

kill Nem? how should i kill something thats as good as dead? are u kidding me dude?
sr. member
Activity: 261
Merit: 250
ok, now you should stop spamming, it's boring, you won't kill NEM
hero member
Activity: 525
Merit: 500
Really? You need a THIRD thread to discuss this? Haven't driven down the price of NEM stakes enough to reach your target entry point? 
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