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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1214. (Read 2985436 times)

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Importance of 1.6%oo in basis points means an real importance of 0.016%. So your chance is 1:6250 to harvest the next block if all stakeholders are harvesting at the same time. A new block is created every minute therefore you should find a new block every 6250 minutes (about each 10 hours) in average. Since it is unlikely that every stakeholder is harvesting at the same time your chance to find next block increases with each stakeholder which is not harvesting. Thus, the probability should be higher than 0.016% or 1:6250.

Hope that helps!

OK, i have my importance 1.6% but how often should we harvest blocks?
Best score I got was 8 blocks in 1 day with 2.25M(3.1%oo).

That's quite nice.
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Importance of 1.6%oo in basis points means an real importance of 0.016%. So your chance is 1:6250 to harvest the next block if all stakeholders are harvesting at the same time. A new block is created every minute therefore you should find a new block every 6250 minutes (about each 10 hours) in average. Since it is unlikely that every stakeholder is harvesting at the same time your chance to find next block increases with each stakeholder which is not harvesting. Thus, the probability should be higher than 0.016% or 1:6250.

Hope that helps!

OK, i have my importance 1.6% but how often should we harvest blocks?
Best score I got was 8 blocks in 1 day with 2.25M(3.1%oo).
tyz
legendary
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Importance of 1.6%oo in basis points means an real importance of 0.016%. So your chance is 1:6250 to harvest the next block if all stakeholders are harvesting at the same time. A new block is created every minute therefore you should find a new block every 6250 minutes (about each 10 hours) in average. Since it is unlikely that every stakeholder is harvesting at the same time your chance to find next block increases with each stakeholder which is not harvesting. Thus, the probability should be higher than 0.016% or 1:6250.

Hope that helps!

OK, i have my importance 1.6% but how often should we harvest blocks?
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Move On !!!!!!
In any case, we have some pretty great things in the working and 1 or 2 days from now we'll have a big announcement about stuff.

By the end of this week I think people will start understanding that in some sense our marketing work tries to be very similar to our technical work - which means we are aiming for real quality and are working on some things that have either not been done in crypto or have been done the wrong way. Stay tuned.

So tell us more!  Wink

We are waiting! Smiley
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In any case, we have some pretty great things in the working and 1 or 2 days from now we'll have a big announcement about stuff.

By the end of this week I think people will start understanding that in some sense our marketing work tries to be very similar to our technical work - which means we are aiming for real quality and are working on some things that have either not been done in crypto or have been done the wrong way. Stay tuned.

So tell us more!  Wink
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0.01 btc bounty to whoever will help me get this shit working without just sending me to official guide or w/e

It's not that hard. The only other person I know who had trouble like this was JL777.

Hi magicmexican.

Update Java 8
Go to http://bob.nem.ninja
Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip
Double click on runMon

When runMon.bat doesn't work;


Start runNCC.bat first. After a couple of minutes start runNIS.bat.

Last step; start runMon.bat.

legendary
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mining is so 2012-2013
0.01 btc bounty to whoever will help me get this shit working without just sending me to official guide or w/e

It's not that hard. The only other person I know who had trouble like this was JL777.

Hi magicmexican.

Update Java 8
Go to http://bob.nem.ninja
Download nis-ncc-0.6.26.zip
Unzip
Double click on runMon
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I would set up a node, changed my ports, my server name is displayed on nodeexplorer.com, but still offline and not available. Someone can support me?
legendary
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It went from $80+ million capitalization (sky's the limits) with six figure volume at the time of UP's departure down to today's $10 million capitalization.

Nay, this happened because of FrictionlessCoin departure.

I gotta agree here, the FrictionlessCoins (this plural is no typo) had the biggest positive impact on the price of NXT.

Personally I've never been laughing that much when reading messages on BTT ever again - loads of clowns here but the FCs are still the uncontested kings  Cool
legendary
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It went from $80+ million capitalization (sky's the limits) with six figure volume at the time of UP's departure down to today's $10 million capitalization.

Nay, this happened because of FrictionlessCoin departure.
legendary
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Newbie
"I'm smart, nxt has bad distro and needs leaders, nxt will fail without me, but I'm not a dev, and don't have a big stake. Set me up as a key NXT insider or I'll make NEM serious. Most people missed out on NXT IPO so a NXT reboot with a better distribution will win. You have 24 hours to respond or joke NEM goes serious"

Hm, I don't remember such words. Maybe I wasn't included into CC, though.
legendary
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Newbie
So there very is possibly something more to the story that maybe only CfB and UP know.

Other guys know the story too, they were CCed.
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For somebody, who you determined he was so "clever", he ended up being prophetic about NXT's outcome without his presence.

TaunSew is UtopianFuture.

Don't forget Starik69, BlackShibe16, Sboss, Spoetnik, BCexpress, Come from Above, Bluemeanie1 and other people I've been accused of in the past year.   Cheesy  Actually lost count, it's a frequent game on BTT to accuse me of being another person or to allege I run the most viscous pump and dump circle in crypto.  At some point the legend will become fact.  I prefer the title: "TaunSew the Destroyer of Aurora-$hitcoins, conqueror of l33t, Pacifier of Ethereum and circle master"



legendary
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What happened?

You can PM me if you want Smiley

UF tried to create something similar to NEM on top of Nxt AE.
sr. member
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For somebody, who you determined he was so "clever", he ended up being prophetic about NXT's outcome without his presence.

TaunSew is UtopianFuture.
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Is someone able to help with the error 699? I am still not be able to harvest. Thanks.

edit: saw a thread at the off. forums. sorry.


I have the same problem as discussed before (see under this post). Getting error 699, tried to stop/start delegated harvesting; Start/stop local harvesting, no change at all. I don´t understand that.  Can i connect with a remote node?What is a node? At my settings there appears "localhost", delegated harvesting is active; but when i try to start delegated harvesting: Error 699.

Thanks a lot!



..Too..many..posts...

Could you please answer this one? Wink

Will local node and remote node have to run at the same time to do delegated harvesting?

No they don't have to run at the same time. Only the node you're harvesting on needs to run.
Anything else would defeat the point of the excecise.
Ah nice..
So the approach is:

- Setup remote node with NIS and NCC
- Set remote node's address in local settings -> host
- Activate delegated harvesting

Is this correct?

I would first setup a local NIS and NCC and get that working to be sure that there is no principal problem. Then activate delegated harvesting.
Meanwhile you can setup a remote NIS. Once the delegated harvesting is activated (needs 360 blocks) shut down local NIS and start remote NIS with the remote key as boot key.
Then change setting in ncc to connect to the remote NIS.

legendary
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Please direct technical support and error questions to https://forum.ournem.com/technical-discussion/

It's too hard to find important messages on thread with all the spam :/
sr. member
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Is it normal to keep getting these warnings every few seconds from NIS:

2015-04-08 02:28:28.319 WARNING Timer FORAGING raised exception: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: importance not set at wanted height
java.util.concurrent.CompletionException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: importance not set at wanted height
        at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture.encodeThrowable(CompletableFuture.java:273)
        at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture.completeThrowable(CompletableFuture.java:280)
        at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1621)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: importance not set at wanted height
        at org.nem.nis.state.AccountImportance.o(AccountImportance.java:128)
        at org.nem.nis.kx.k(BlockScorer.java:94)
        at org.nem.nis.kx.b(BlockScorer.java:73)
        at org.nem.nis.p.vx.a(BlockGenerator.java:66)
        at org.nem.nis.p.cq.gH(Harvester.java:54)
        at org.nem.nis.p.ko.a(HarvestingTask.java:41)
        at org.nem.nis.boot.PeerNetworkScheduler.c(PeerNetworkScheduler.java:99)
        at org.nem.nis.boot.PeerNetworkScheduler$$Lambda$227/840805047.run(Unknown Source)
        at java.util.concurrent.CompletableFuture$AsyncRun.run(CompletableFuture.java:1618)
        ... 3 more
 (org.nem.core.async.NemAsyncTimerVisitor b)


What is this warning and how to fix it?

Interesting, however post it at NEM forum because it will fall into oblivion here due to huge quantity of posts and "posts" in this thread.
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For somebody, who you determined he was so "clever", he ended up being prophetic about NXT's outcome without his presence.

NXT did fail.  It went from $80+ million capitalization (sky's the limits) with six figure volume at the time of UP's departure down to today's $10 million capitalization, practically no volume, dim outlook, numerous alleged inside jobs and a lack of effective leadership.  This is a statement of fact.  Whether UP's proposed solutions could had made a difference is speculation, not fact, and I prefer not to discuss it unless you have a time machine somewhere.

Disclaimer:  I am not a NEM developer or even a part of the team.  So if you want to write a scathing reply then do it in private messaging.  UtopianFuture also hasn't even been here for 10+ months.  Otherwise yes NXT did fail without UtopianFuture's presence.  This is really footnote / historical information and I don't see why it is relevant on NEM's thread:  this isn't NXT and UtopianFuture isn't here.


Scathing reply ... Taun, bubby .... I love your work, honest I do. Do you take requests? I'd love to see you modify your 'wide shot going into eyeball close-up revealing the glitter throwing dude in the pupil', but replace Vitalik with CfB. That image was gold man, really was!!

I don't know what happened (maybe you do though), so I'm speculating only.
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The NEM admin I guess quite fairly said they can't do that behind the back of the community. But they also said I should ask The community IF I deserve a stake. I guess it's up to feedback on here now. I won't beg I just think it's fair.

What a frustrating situation. I don't know if the decision has already been made--I didn't see anything in the pages immediately following the original post.

Here's my 2 satoshis.

If this had happened to me, I would probably be asking for the same thing. However, when I got my stake token and then later the real account data private and public keys, those came with strict warnings to not lose them. So I backed them up in my password manager which I could access from anywhere, and I also stored them on two encrypted flash drives, one of which was stored away from my home (you know, in case my house and computer burned down or something). I've been in crypto for a while and have a number of wallet passwords stored in this way, and I know that if I ever lose one of them, I lose access to associated wallet, regardless of how many funds are in said wallet and regardless of who feels sorry for me, etc. In most cases the funds simply can't be accessed without that password or private key no matter how much someone might want to.

So... what I'm hearing here is that nextgencoin stored his private key in one place only, which was on his computer hard drive. Then the computer crashed and he lost the data. He's asking to be compensated for the lost coins.

The problem with compensating is that the coins used for compensation have to come from somewhere, like the community fund, so that they would be unavailable for their original intended purpose.

The problem with not compensating is that nextgencoin would in essence be punished for not saving his very important private key in multiple locations, which isn't exactly a crime. That seems stiff. But unfortunately that is common in crypto, and people kind of have to make plans for that because it's the nature of the beast.

I don't really have a good answer, but those are the issues I see.

If the decision was already made, then forgive my redundancy.

One can't even prove that he has lost his key. Say he get's a stake. What happens if 1 hour later the account that he claimed lost is empty? Everyone will tell the devs how stupid they are.
It's his fault. It sux but that's how it is.
Also judging by how he behaved in this thread it prob served him right (personal opinion). i don't think there was any official statement yet he went on a retard rampage.
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