Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 1487. (Read 2985369 times)
December 03, 2014, 03:56:01 PM
I only advanced from block 63334 to 63336 over the course of the day. In the process of restarting NIS..
December 03, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
before coming to any false conclusions without any facts.
How do you know what is false and what is fact? 
Please, tell us the facts you know.
You answer: Explain.
He is right. The devs only should "explain". But since the code is still not open, they wont. As far as I can tell from my experience, the PoI seems to work great though.
He said : mattadc (and Conurtol) had false args,
I said : we (including him) don't know the facts.
He can prove that the above is wrong
Should we stop every discussion, when we are not 100 % sure about something? Not.
I didn't say you made a false argument.
I said you don't have any facts, so let's wait what the devs say + whitepaper + source code. That's all I said.
December 03, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
There's a bit truth in the statement, that "PoI looks like the old PoS with ..."
Basically number of transactions in beta-network is pretty high, but there are two issues:
Second point is important, as that is not how things look like in real-life. You can take a look at bitcoin's blockchain or NXT's blockchain
Basically number of transactions in beta-network is pretty high, but there are two issues:
- number of accounts is kinda limited
- from real-life perspective, transactions looks almost like random (and transactions' graph)
- (reason for that is simple, people are playing with bots and network itself)
Second point is important, as that is not how things look like in real-life. You can take a look at bitcoin's blockchain or NXT's blockchain
December 03, 2014, 02:51:10 PM
before coming to any false conclusions without any facts.
How do you know what is false and what is fact? Please, tell us the facts you know.
You answer: Explain.
He is right. The devs only should "explain". But since the code is still not open, they wont. As far as I can tell from my experience, the PoI seems to work great though.
He said : mattadc (and Conurtol) had false args,
I said : we (including him) don't know the facts.
He can prove that the above is wrong
Should we stop every discussion, when we are not 100 % sure about something? Not.
December 03, 2014, 02:37:22 PM
Testing is great but there is only one really important question to answer: Is POI secure and bulletprooof?
No, if PoS isn't
When inducing from the numbers I've seen, PoI looks like the old PoS with new proportional-integral-derivative controller
Why don't you let the devs explain who are actually working on the algorithm or wait for the whitepaper/source code before coming to any false conclusions without any facts.
Also: there are different kind of PoS algorithms and PoS can be made secure.
How do you know what is false and what is fact?
Please, tell us the facts you know.
You answer: Explain.
He is right. The devs only should "explain". But since the code is still not open, they wont. As far as I can tell from my experience, the PoI seems to work great though.
December 03, 2014, 02:08:04 PM
Stuck at block 63334
If you are really stuck then it would be nice if you could provide the databse file and logs. Does restarting NIS solve the problem?
It fell out of sync just before I went to bed, and was still out when I woke up and left for work. The number looked similar to what I think I remember it being, so I posted that up this morning to see if anyone else was having syncing issues. I'll try to restart when I get back home (if it's still out of sync of course).
December 03, 2014, 02:05:08 PM
Testing is great but there is only one really important question to answer: Is POI secure and bulletprooof?
No, if PoS isn't
When inducing from the numbers I've seen, PoI looks like the old PoS with new proportional-integral-derivative controller
Why don't you let the devs explain who are actually working on the algorithm or wait for the whitepaper/source code before coming to any false conclusions without any facts.
Also: there are different kind of PoS algorithms and PoS can be made secure.
How do you know what is false and what is fact?
Please, tell us the facts you know.
December 03, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
Testing is great but there is only one really important question to answer: Is POI secure and bulletprooof?
No, if PoS isn't
When inducing from the numbers I've seen, PoI looks like the old PoS with new proportional-integral-derivative controller
Why don't you let the devs explain who are actually working on the algorithm or wait for the whitepaper/source code before coming to any false conclusions without any facts.
Also: there are different kind of PoS algorithms and PoS can be made secure.
December 03, 2014, 11:14:04 AM
Testing is great but there is only one really important question to answer: Is POI secure and bulletprooof?
No, if PoS isn't
When inducing from the numbers I've seen, PoI looks like the old PoS with new proportional-integral-derivative controller
December 03, 2014, 11:09:07 AM
Stuck at block 63334
If you are really stuck then it would be nice if you could provide the databse file and logs. Does restarting NIS solve the problem?
December 03, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
Testing is great but there is only one really important question to answer: Is POI secure and bulletprooof?
December 03, 2014, 10:09:26 AM
The NEM beta blockchain has more than 1 million transactions inside (Nxt blockchain has about 680k transactions). Many transactions have a message attached which increases the size of the database too.
My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
That's a remarkable achievement. Congrats to all the devs and nemsters to reach 1 million transactions in the testnet itself. This speaks the awesomeness of our devs and their coding because the current beta 0.4.36 is quite stable than the previous versions that I have tested. My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
I agree. That is quite a big deal. I am not sure how long it took Bitcoin to get to 1 million, but I think it took a long time.
My version of NEM has been working well too. 24-7 for almost two weeks.
It's not really that big of a deal. It would be if those were actuall trades but we're pre-launch so it's people running spambots and stuff. It's very cool that our network seems to be able to handle that kind of load but the mere existence of that amount isn't very remarkable
any stats on the average number of tx/per block or peak no of tx/block, longest number of blocks in row that have max number of tx in them etc? i think those are more important numbers than just x tx have been done in the beta and matter much much more too as they give a good insight into what the network should be able to handle after launch..
I'm sure bloody could pull such stats but from what i remember there were quite a few streaks where many adjacent blocks were completely filled with tx.
I remember once seeing like 60 full blocks in a row, each with 120 transactions. I know because I remember it was exactly an hour of full blocks. Maybe there are other times it went longer. That is just a time I stumbled upon once.
There you go, about 2tx/s continuously for 1 hour. THis is sizeable.
December 03, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
The NEM beta blockchain has more than 1 million transactions inside (Nxt blockchain has about 680k transactions). Many transactions have a message attached which increases the size of the database too.
My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
That's a remarkable achievement. Congrats to all the devs and nemsters to reach 1 million transactions in the testnet itself. This speaks the awesomeness of our devs and their coding because the current beta 0.4.36 is quite stable than the previous versions that I have tested. My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
I agree. That is quite a big deal. I am not sure how long it took Bitcoin to get to 1 million, but I think it took a long time.
My version of NEM has been working well too. 24-7 for almost two weeks.
It's not really that big of a deal. It would be if those were actuall trades but we're pre-launch so it's people running spambots and stuff. It's very cool that our network seems to be able to handle that kind of load but the mere existence of that amount isn't very remarkable
any stats on the average number of tx/per block or peak no of tx/block, longest number of blocks in row that have max number of tx in them etc? i think those are more important numbers than just x tx have been done in the beta and matter much much more too as they give a good insight into what the network should be able to handle after launch..
I'm sure bloody could pull such stats but from what i remember there were quite a few streaks where many adjacent blocks were completely filled with tx.
A million may not be a lot. But it means a lot if the tx/s is high. Given the period of about 60 days(?), this is something like 16K tx per day or about 600 tx/hr. I think the most revealing is the last month when we started spamming big time. If we can match BTC tx/s today, we should be able to see this through 1 year without a problem. By which time, a lot more improvements will be released anyway. So, this means something.
December 03, 2014, 10:02:04 AM
The NEM beta blockchain has more than 1 million transactions inside (Nxt blockchain has about 680k transactions). Many transactions have a message attached which increases the size of the database too.
My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
That's a remarkable achievement. Congrats to all the devs and nemsters to reach 1 million transactions in the testnet itself. This speaks the awesomeness of our devs and their coding because the current beta 0.4.36 is quite stable than the previous versions that I have tested. My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
I agree. That is quite a big deal. I am not sure how long it took Bitcoin to get to 1 million, but I think it took a long time.
My version of NEM has been working well too. 24-7 for almost two weeks.
It's not really that big of a deal. It would be if those were actuall trades but we're pre-launch so it's people running spambots and stuff. It's very cool that our network seems to be able to handle that kind of load but the mere existence of that amount isn't very remarkable
any stats on the average number of tx/per block or peak no of tx/block, longest number of blocks in row that have max number of tx in them etc? i think those are more important numbers than just x tx have been done in the beta and matter much much more too as they give a good insight into what the network should be able to handle after launch..
I'm sure bloody could pull such stats but from what i remember there were quite a few streaks where many adjacent blocks were completely filled with tx.
I remember once seeing like 60 full blocks in a row, each with 120 transactions. I know because I remember it was exactly an hour of full blocks. Maybe there are other times it went longer. That is just a time I stumbled upon once.
December 03, 2014, 09:58:20 AM
the title of the thread needs to be updated to accurately reflect the current project status so people don't get confused.
December 03, 2014, 09:45:35 AM
Is there a "best list" for poi competition?
you mean competition rankings? no not at the moment.. il post a the highest score soon.
soon?
u the best godtycoon
u r using soooo much time to look AE markets, exchanges and other stuff that have no time 4 litle update. Unless its not accidental???
Wud competition info show some bad things? Poi isnt working. Premarkets will crash. Godtycoon lose money?
Bad Poi, Bad Boy, what you gonna do
what you gonna do when they come for you
How its possible to have competition with no control.
Noway. Its fake compet.
Just beta testers for slavery. Slaves, only few tester get reward and even that can be manipulated with changing rules and other accounts in network. How manipulating network? Dont ask, i cant tell
its secret for gaming if Nem is launched. Its all there.Take this as writ
December 03, 2014, 09:38:47 AM
The NEM beta blockchain has more than 1 million transactions inside (Nxt blockchain has about 680k transactions). Many transactions have a message attached which increases the size of the database too.
My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
That's a remarkable achievement. Congrats to all the devs and nemsters to reach 1 million transactions in the testnet itself. This speaks the awesomeness of our devs and their coding because the current beta 0.4.36 is quite stable than the previous versions that I have tested. My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
I agree. That is quite a big deal. I am not sure how long it took Bitcoin to get to 1 million, but I think it took a long time.
My version of NEM has been working well too. 24-7 for almost two weeks.
It's not really that big of a deal. It would be if those were actuall trades but we're pre-launch so it's people running spambots and stuff. It's very cool that our network seems to be able to handle that kind of load but the mere existence of that amount isn't very remarkable
any stats on the average number of tx/per block or peak no of tx/block, longest number of blocks in row that have max number of tx in them etc? i think those are more important numbers than just x tx have been done in the beta and matter much much more too as they give a good insight into what the network should be able to handle after launch..
I'm sure bloody could pull such stats but from what i remember there were quite a few streaks where many adjacent blocks were completely filled with tx.
December 03, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
The NEM beta blockchain has more than 1 million transactions inside (Nxt blockchain has about 680k transactions). Many transactions have a message attached which increases the size of the database too.
My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
That's a remarkable achievement. Congrats to all the devs and nemsters to reach 1 million transactions in the testnet itself. This speaks the awesomeness of our devs and their coding because the current beta 0.4.36 is quite stable than the previous versions that I have tested. My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
I agree. That is quite a big deal. I am not sure how long it took Bitcoin to get to 1 million, but I think it took a long time.
My version of NEM has been working well too. 24-7 for almost two weeks.
It's not really that big of a deal. It would be if those were actuall trades but we're pre-launch so it's people running spambots and stuff. It's very cool that our network seems to be able to handle that kind of load but the mere existence of that amount isn't very remarkable
any stats on the average number of tx/per block or peak no of tx/block, longest number of blocks in row that have max number of tx in them etc? i think those are more important numbers than just x tx have been done in the beta and matter much much more too as they give a good insight into what the network should be able to handle after launch..
December 03, 2014, 09:29:45 AM
The NEM beta blockchain has more than 1 million transactions inside (Nxt blockchain has about 680k transactions). Many transactions have a message attached which increases the size of the database too.
My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
That's a remarkable achievement. Congrats to all the devs and nemsters to reach 1 million transactions in the testnet itself. This speaks the awesomeness of our devs and their coding because the current beta 0.4.36 is quite stable than the previous versions that I have tested. My node needs about 80 minutes to sync from scratch (with a not yet released version of NIS).
I agree. That is quite a big deal. I am not sure how long it took Bitcoin to get to 1 million, but I think it took a long time.
My version of NEM has been working well too. 24-7 for almost two weeks.
It's not really that big of a deal. It would be if those were actuall trades but we're pre-launch so it's people running spambots and stuff. It's very cool that our network seems to be able to handle that kind of load but the mere existence of that amount isn't very remarkable
December 03, 2014, 09:27:49 AM
Cross post from https://forum.nemcoin.com/general-discussion/open-letter-to-the-nem-devs/
Dear Devs: @Pat, @Gimre, @BloodyRookie, @Makoto, and @Jaguar,
Here are some of my thoughts. Your job is a thankless one. You work hard on a great idea. Those that would support you, most often don’t (yet). But those that will complain, gripe, and insult do.
snip
I am lucky because I lived in one of the poorest places in the world, a poor village in one of the poorest countries in Africa
Dear Devs: @Pat, @Gimre, @BloodyRookie, @Makoto, and @Jaguar,
Here are some of my thoughts. Your job is a thankless one. You work hard on a great idea. Those that would support you, most often don’t (yet). But those that will complain, gripe, and insult do.
snip
I am lucky because I lived in one of the poorest places in the world, a poor village in one of the poorest countries in Africa
very good & veery loong post
when u come from Africa u shud translate nem to some African language!
Big markets..
The problem is that there are sooooo many languages in Africa. The language I speak (or butcher) is called Southern Sotho and only has about 2 million speakers total. It is a decent sized population but not a major one by any means. (In comparison the city I live in now has more than 2 million people)
To some extent most Africans learn a little bit of a Western language in school, mostly English, but it of course varies region by region.
aye, but that translation cud be port to Africa.
Some people who cant english, read ur Sotho and spread Nem with the languages that they can translate.
U cant lose
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