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Topic: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs - page 557. (Read 2985369 times)

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Can we have smaller images on this thread? It's becoming a never ending scrollfest.


ok next time click ctrl+wheel  to zoom out .
or more simply click  Ignore


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Can we have smaller images on this thread? It's becoming a never ending scrollfest.

Ignore button always helps Wink
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Can we have smaller images on this thread? It's becoming a never ending scrollfest.
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Fine, but that's beside my point. Mijin just seems to be another ledger in this graphic.

Maybe that was also that huge deal Lon mentioned that didn't work out?
i don't thinks so because
this news still  very very fresh .

According to Jeff this was not the mentioned deal:
"Jeff:
Lon is on a NEM business trip today. Working hard as always.

I think BCCC is doing fine as far as I know. The deal Lon talked about was different."

So maybe we are lucky and they are using mijin? Let's see and wait
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Local harvesting demands running a local NIS, that is because local harvesting exposes the private key of the account to NIS and you don't want to do that in case of a remote NIS (which could be evil).
So, as others already said, delegated harvesting the better alternative, it is secure and has no disadvantages with regards to the amount you harvest.
What is a "remote NIS"?
So harvesting with my fully downloaded blockchain is unsafe? And harvesting with nanowallet is safer, altough i trust the blockchain of another server and not my own fully downloaded one?

A remote NIS simply is a NIS that is not running on your PC but on someone else's computer.
The term "safe" refers to the safety of your acount's private key. The private is needed to harvest since each harvested block needs to be signed.
But since the private key should never ever be sent across the internet, you cannot harvest with your main account's private key on a remote NIS.
NEM therefore has the concept of a delegated private key. The account belonging to the delegated key has a balance of 0 xem but the network recognizes the account as being allowed to harvest in the name of the main account. The delegated key may be sent to a remote NIS because an attacker basicly can do nothing with it. It therefore is safe to do so and you can use it to harvest on a remote NIS.
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Fine, but that's beside my point. Mijin just seems to be another ledger in this graphic.

Maybe that was also that huge deal Lon mentioned that didn't work out?
i don't thinks so because
this news still  very very fresh .
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Fine, but that's beside my point. Mijin just seems to be another ledger in this graphic.

Maybe that was also that huge deal Lon mentioned that didn't work out?
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I put that graphic through google translate and for mijin it said "X company service block chain, Zen token. ex) Mijin" and the bubble below that "Y company service block chain, Zen token. Ex) Corda"

So I think it means that zen token can just exist on other blockchains. But I don't think mijin will be used to issue Zen tokens. At least I haven't seen any evidence for that.

to begin with,     CORDA is  "not" a Blockchain or a distributed ledger technology (DLT). Roll Eyes
no need to compare Corda with NEM/mijin . different structure
Corda it is more like a "shared ledger” platform not a "distributed ledger"

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I put that graphic through google translate and for mijin it said "X company service block chain, Zen token. ex) Mijin" and the bubble below that "Y company service block chain, Zen token. Ex) Corda"

So I think it means that zen token can just exist on other blockchains. But I don't think mijin will be used to issue Zen tokens. At least I haven't seen any evidence for that.
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How private is harvesting?

I understand my keys are safe in both local and delegated harvesting (I think) but I am wondering how private network traffic is during this

Local harvesting: everything happens on your pc.
The only network traffic is broadcasting transactions and  blocks which are public information, no privacy needed.

Remote harvesting: you also need to send your delegated key to remote NIS.
You can do it via encrypted email or telegram to the node owner if you don't feel like sending it in cleartext trough the network.
I own two supernodes, you can message me on telegram: @rigelNEM
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for those who are new and don't know the big picture


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Keep watching this very closely BCCC is preparing something big... and MIJIN/NEM is likely to be in the centre of the "ZEN" token

new article:
translated by google

http://s.news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/04/11/089/
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Im trying to folllow this thread but cant make any sense out of it. Since visaco doesnt know who Hirano guy is and why hes important I demand people officially linked to that japanese association to show up and explain why the hell they bought tickets to summit where Hirano will speak up if nobody knows who Hirano is in the first place.
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dude read the text to know who he is . it is written in english... Roll Eyes
first go search for mijin/nem relation to know more

here infoteria(Hirano )+mijin/NEM/tech bureau+Microsoft  japan
they have been playing with nem blockchain sometimes ago.
https://www.infoteria.com/jp/en/news/press/2016/07/11_01.php

who is hirano well?


ceo of Infoteria

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%86%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2


 and the co-founder of the Blockchain Collaborative Consortium (BCCC)

http://bccc.global/en/

here are the company linked to bccc


and the "zen" token is : likely to be a mosaic ·asset" on mijin network --->NEM



 
reference:
http://bccc.global/ja/articles/20170410_jpyz.html
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How private is harvesting?

I understand my keys are safe in both local and delegated harvesting (I think) but I am wondering how private network traffic is during this
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Local harvesting demands running a local NIS, that is because local harvesting exposes the private key of the account to NIS and you don't want to do that in case of a remote NIS (which could be evil).
So, as others already said, delegated harvesting the better alternative, it is secure and has no disadvantages with regards to the amount you harvest.

How can you tell when your delegated harvesting is working on the Nano wallet?

Nano wallet lets you pick a remote server where you harvest. If that is working then you are harvesting with your delegated account.

Yes I see that part, I suppose my question is how do I know it worked and is working?  All I see is this:

http://imgur.com/a/b9uK7
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Im trying to folllow this thread but cant make any sense out of it. Since visaco doesnt know who Hirano guy is and why hes important I demand people officially linked to that japanese association to show up and explain why the hell they bought tickets to summit where Hirano will speak up if nobody knows who Hirano is in the first place.
dude read the text to know who he is . it is written in english... Roll Eyes
first go search for mijin/nem relation to know more

https://www.infoteria.com/jp/en/news/press/2016/07/11_01.php

Who/what is her referring to? Can't find the post he mentioned.
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Local harvesting demands running a local NIS, that is because local harvesting exposes the private key of the account to NIS and you don't want to do that in case of a remote NIS (which could be evil).
So, as others already said, delegated harvesting the better alternative, it is secure and has no disadvantages with regards to the amount you harvest.
What is a "remote NIS"?
So harvesting with my fully downloaded blockchain is unsafe? And harvesting with nanowallet is safer, altough i trust the blockchain of another server and not my own fully downloaded one?
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