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Pirate 2.0 stops by to rub salt in some wounds - lovely.
Topic: NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) - page 14. (Read 153237 times)
Pirate 2.0 stops by to rub salt in some wounds - lovely.
I wish I could help out here, guys, but for the next few days I'll be busy exposing Bitcoin-Central and their money laundering scheme, for it's connected to InstaWallet of which they still have my 1,132 BTC.
NeoBee's been on my radar, but I had them pegged as viable. Sorry to read that that's probably not the case.
~Bruno Kucinskas
NeoBee's been on my radar, but I had them pegged as viable. Sorry to read that that's probably not the case.
~Bruno Kucinskas
Well, ChopChop didn't like that I questioned Danny's statement, so he deleted my comments on the other thread.
There needs to be pressure on Danny to release financial information. Why are they having money issues a month after opening? They raised a considerable amount of funds and the price of BTC grew considerably in that time, as well. There is absolutely no reason why they should be having liquidity issues at this point in the game unless there was a gross mismanagement of funds or wrong doing.
His explanation is unacceptable.
His explanation is unacceptable.
thekekk guy supposed to unleash his lawyer hounds
There needs to be pressure on Danny to release financial information. Why are they having money issues a month after opening? They raised a considerable amount of funds and the price of BTC grew considerably in that time, as well. There is absolutely no reason why they should be having liquidity issues at this point in the game unless there was a gross mismanagement of funds or wrong doing.
His explanation is unacceptable.
His explanation is unacceptable.
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If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
The irony being that all this bickering, hateful dialogue and vitriolic 'debate' probably does as much to tarnish the image of bitcoin/bitcoiners...
No one likes to get teeth pulled, but though a trip to the dentist is not fun, painting your dentist as a villain is a bit much. Learn from the pain and start brushing your teeth.
I won't enter into whether he's bullshitting (scamming) or not, but one thing is clear: NEO is dead. No liquidity (for whatever reasons) and the CEO jumping ship.
I think I must have a guardian angel somewhere as I managed to get out of it just an hour before trading halted for a 20% loss.
I think I must have a guardian angel somewhere as I managed to get out of it just an hour before trading halted for a 20% loss.
I am very very curious if somebody will be able to raise any capital via IPO offering in "bitcoin securities market" after this.
They will because Bitcoin investors have proven many times they are willing to invest in companies with unqualified staff, shaky dream-like business plans and absolutely no due diligence whatsoever.
I read every single post in NEOBEE thread from the start of this fiasco and I never saw any "threat to his family", sounds bullshit to me, can anyone quote that "threat" please ? 
btw gross irresponsible incompetence here, another Karpeles 
he's running away with your money and covering with bullshit excuses ... I am very very curious if somebody will be able to raise any capital via IPO offering in "bitcoin securities market" after this.
btw gross irresponsible incompetence here, another Karpeles he's running away with your money and covering with bullshit excuses ... I am very very curious if somebody will be able to raise any capital via IPO offering in "bitcoin securities market" after this. ^
If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
The irony being that all this bickering, hateful dialogue and vitriolic 'debate' probably does as much to tarnish the image of bitcoin/bitcoiners. People see threads like the other NEOBEE thread and think "wow, why would I want to get involved in a community like that?". Never mind the actual content of the thread, the tone and hostility is effective enough at turning people off bitcoin.
I would be very interested to see some expenditure figures or the books of LMB Holdings to see where all the invested coin actually went. Realistically I doubt I will see any of my investment back but the optimist in me is still hopeful that something can be rescued from the ashes of this situation.
I'm sadder for the blow this may do to bitcoin adaptation by the masses and the advancement of user friendly bitcoin systems than I am for my own losses.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
If you closely inspect the prospectus, you'l read that the quarterly financial statement is indeed promised, but the timeframe in which that statement would be released is not clear.The only thing they mentioned a timeframe on are the dividends. Which should've been issued 2 days ago at midnight.
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If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
Just tell him you wanna buy him off
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If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
If I haven't made it blatantly clear: I have not put a single Satoshi in this scam. Kindly refrain from suggesting that I'm capable of such embarrassing stupidity.
As far as having a beef with Danny? No more than I do with anyone else scamming people and tarnishing the image of bitcoiners in the process.
Re. your edit: A financial statement has been promised and never issued.
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Cyprus has NO regulations when it comes to Bitcoin.
The Cyprus University accepts payments in Bitcoins for God's sake.
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Cyprus has NO regulations when it comes to Bitcoin.
The Cyprus University accepts payments in Bitcoins for God's sake.
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Somalia is probably not too heavily regulated either
Anyhow, I'm sure any university in any country can start accepting bitcoin -- I'm not aware of any regulations prohibiting that. Institutions not being [partially] funded by the state are also free to accept cattle and poetry in lieu of dollars, or even offer academic scholarships & just give it away. Anyhow, why would anyone want to pay money for this fiasco? Danny hasn't just turned Neo into a lolcow, but sprayed the rest of us with his bullshit.
Bro, do you have any personal issues with Danny?
Because if you do it has nothing to do with my thoughts on the subject.
And please do not compare Somalia with Cyprus.
Both have their benefits yet both have their flaws.
That being said, IF you invested in this and were wise about it then you would think about it differently.
I don't know, maybe it's because I haven't invested in this that I see things from a different (or proper) point of view.
To some it's a loss if they choose to see it that way.
To some it's an opportunity to jump on board and be the boss.
I am guessing you belong to the first group.
Please don't start an argument with me, I am not here nor to defend or fight anyone.
I am just saying what I see here.
And what I see is an opportunity to grab something for cheap.
EDIT: Why don't you ask Danny to provide you with all financial statements to see if it's a good investment to take over or not.
I believe it is the legal procedure to follow if you are about to invest in something.
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Cyprus has NO regulations when it comes to Bitcoin.
The Cyprus University accepts payments in Bitcoins for God's sake.
...
Cyprus has NO regulations when it comes to Bitcoin.
The Cyprus University accepts payments in Bitcoins for God's sake.
...
Somalia is probably not too heavily regulated either
Anyhow, I'm sure any university in any country can start accepting bitcoin -- I'm not aware of any regulations prohibiting that. Institutions not being [partially] funded by the state are also free to accept cattle and poetry in lieu of dollars, or even offer academic scholarships & just give it away. Anyhow, why would anyone want to pay money for this fiasco? Danny hasn't just turned Neo into a lolcow, but sprayed the rest of us with his bullshit.
So more or less with around 2,500BTC someone can become the CEO and take over right?
Sure. I'm seriously considering it. Eric Cartman bought an amusement park...
Hey, think about it like a shark, erm, sorry I mean an investor.
The whole thing is set up, It's just that there's money missing.
The infrastructure is there.
You know how much money is required for you to become the owner.
Cyprus has NO regulations when it comes to Bitcoin.
The Cyprus University accepts payments in Bitcoins for God's sake.
I think this might be an opportunity for someone with a bit of cash to invest or maybe a group of people willing to invest and take over.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
So more or less with around 2,500BTC someone can become the CEO and take over right?
Sure. I'm seriously considering it. Eric Cartman bought an amusement park...
So more or less with around 2,500BTC someone can become the CEO and take over right?
Just some quick thoughts on this. I'll assume that the reason given for vacating the CEO position is true.
I hope it doesn't sound insensitive, but is it normal procedure to lock down trading because of personal matters like this? Are these two separate issues? We still haven't heard about the "suspicious trading" and it seems like there has to be a connection to the CEO stepping down, right?
As for the money, am I reading it right that the company is basically bankrupt minus the money owed to them? I know others will have a field day over someone leaving money on an exchange, but I'm not too upset about it. I just thought there had to be more money out there. I'm kind of surprised that the money ran out this quick.
If someone wants to come in and buy the assets, will shareholders be getting paid back? When will trading be open again?
Anyway, best of luck to everyone involved. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!
I hope it doesn't sound insensitive, but is it normal procedure to lock down trading because of personal matters like this? Are these two separate issues? We still haven't heard about the "suspicious trading" and it seems like there has to be a connection to the CEO stepping down, right?
As for the money, am I reading it right that the company is basically bankrupt minus the money owed to them? I know others will have a field day over someone leaving money on an exchange, but I'm not too upset about it. I just thought there had to be more money out there. I'm kind of surprised that the money ran out this quick.
If someone wants to come in and buy the assets, will shareholders be getting paid back? When will trading be open again?
Anyway, best of luck to everyone involved. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!
Things should have slowed down when 1400(!!!!!) bitcoins disappeared. I have no idea what goes through bitcoin people minds when they think they can make up deaths like that without stopping and reevaluating the entire situation.
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