Topic: Netanyahu's policies have failed (Read 258 times)

ISIL was similarly murdering people while referring to their victims as terrorists and al-Baghdadi was also a very determined man!

I don't know, Israel is successfully fighting, gradually killing terrorists and freeing hostages, Netanyahu is a determined man at least!

+ The prisoners were military personnel mostly arrested in military bases Palestinian commandos raided.
+ The Israelis who were eliminated were killed by Israeli troops when they activated their Hannibal Directive according to Israeli mouthpieces like haaretz

That is the nature of Israel itself. It is not Netanyahu alone nor the right wing alone. That is the nature of this radical cult that is occupying Palestine. It also has been like this for the past 76 years.

As bitcoiners we are very familiar with that history. Each time we see the famous "Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" article we also see the newspaper is also saying Israel is sending tanks to murder people in Gaza and that's from 15 years ago:
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Bottom line is, US is giving all the help they can. Things are not going to be any different with someone else in the office even if that someone is a senile crazy man like Trump.
The project Israel is over. It has been crushed on October 7 last year with irreparable damage. The Zionist regime is currently in denial phase even though over a million occupiers have already ended their occupation and flown back home leaving Palestine.

5 years from now Israel will no longer exist. The only thing Netanyahu is doing is to speed up that process. 9 years ago that time frame was 25 years (ie. ending by 2040). After October 7 it got significantly shorter. They increased their aggression against West Bank 2 days ago, that shortened it again again.
They could do something else to shorten it to a matter of months. They could even poke Iran again and shorten it to 30 minutes...

The pressure on him from inside Israel is growing every day. I doubt if he would be able to drag his feet till November. He might start seeking means to rescue some hostages and use them for propaganda. Getting some captive through his failed military operations might be able to sustain his quest for some time. But how is he sure that Donald Trump will win the US elections? From the available polls, Kamala Harris since to have the upper hand. Is Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also sure that Trump will give him all the support? His best option now is to accept that he has failed and embrace a ceasefire.

The "many" was actually 0.0074 % of the Israeli population who were kidnapped.
251 out of 9,400,000.


Its my understanding that the Israeli government is struggling primarily because
of the extreme right wing^naz1 coalition who are pressuring Netanyahu to go
further and further in dealing with the Palestinians.

Netanyahu is dragging his feet on negotiations in the hope that Trump, who he believes is more favorable to Israel, will become president and then Israel will crush Hamas.

  Israel has occupied the entire territory of the Palestinian state, which is the reason for the struggle of the Palestinian Arabs against the aggressors. It is a fact! Israel must abandon its intention to deprive the Palestinians of their state, and this is the only path to peace.

I already answered your point regarding the war in Gaza and hostages as stated my position above but you seem to ignore anything that does not add value to your own narrative so I quote again below:

[/quote]Yes we should ask them to release people who are innocent of any crime of course as the innocent should not be punished with the guilty and I do not support how Israel is going about its current campaign but why did the terrorists not release the hostages knowing full well what the response would be from Israel? They literally invited this desolation upon its own people and still give Israel the reason to continue.[/quote]


Israel is surrounded by people who wish to destroy it including from where they have launched their current campaign where thousands of rockets are fired indiscriminately upon its towns and cities. Israel has a right to defend itself and if the people of Gaza want to live in peace should force all terrorists out of their land and bring law and order that will force the international community to cooperate with it to build a peaceful free and democratic state but some prefer violence and no right for Israel to exist.


And no Netanyahu would not destroy Haifa or Tel Aviv if terrorists appeared there because those cities are not strongholds for terrorists nor do they give refuge to terrorists to carry out their atrocities against innocent civilians.


You need to get on some forum and explain this to your colleagues or friends who may think the situation is black and white and simple to resolve how it is those who seek to destroy Israel from the face of the earth that are to blame for the war today and not Israel who is fighting daily to ensure its very existence.

It seems that some points are still missing to you, especially if you rely on what is reported by the Western media.

First, the residents of the Gaza Strip elected Hamas in 2007, and Hamas refused to give up the authority of the Strip, which led to a further division between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip under Hamas’ rule. This is to emphasize that not all of the people in Gaza Strip is affiliated with or supportive of Hamas, and therefore it is not at all logical to hold everyone accountable for what a group of them commits. And also to confirm that the Gaza Strip is completely besieged in a way that prevents the arrival of any international aid that Hamas may use to purchase weapons or develop its capabilities.

Secondly, Israel has been arresting thousands of Palestinians for decades without anyone holding it accountable or the Palestinians being able to react since they are a besieged people and are prohibited from owning weapons or forming an army. What Hamas did could be read as a reaction (resistance) against Israel's barbaric policies. Personally, I do not support any terrorist activity, regardless of its source, but these Palestinians are in a miserable situation decades before October 7, being subjected to arrest and killing by Israel without any logical justification.

Thirdly, is it justified to kill 37,000 people because 1,200 people were killed? I gave an example in a previous comment, which I will repeat and hope you will answer me:
Suppose a terrorist group appeared in Haifa or Tel Aviv and killed Israelis, what would Netanyahu's response be if we followed the same strategy he adopted in Gaza? Will he destroy the entire city, force its residents to flee, and then pursue them wherever they fled, killing more of them?

Apologies as I am just seeing this now. Yes we should ask them to release people who are innocent of any crime of course as the innocent should not be punished with the guilty and I do not support how Israel is going about its current campaign but why did the terrorists not release the hostages knowing full well what the response would be from Israel? They literally invited this desolation upon its own people and still give Israel the reason to continue.

Israel is a democracy and the homeland to the Jews but are surrounded by people who wish to see them no longer exist. Palestinians elected H×mas. On October 7 they celebrated as 1,200 Israeli civilians were massacred. They cheered as hundreds were kidnapped. They hold hostages in their homes. Vast majority of them still support H×mas and October 7 massacre. Until the terrorists release the "CIVILIANS" taken hostage they have no right to complain about what is happening. They have brought destruction upon all those innocent people by provoking the reaction that came from Israel. The people who do NOT support the terrorists should have vacated Gaza the moment H×mas was elected and sought refuge in a free democratic country.

With tens of billions in foreign aid, they could have turned Gaza into Dubai or Singapore. Instead, they spent it all on weapons and terror tunnels. If you start a war, don't complain when you're losing it.

I hate watching innocent civilians being harmed due to the actions of others and it is G_D who will judge the actions of both Israel and its enemies not us discussing it here but this won't stop until the innocent people who were taken hostage are released from captivity.

This is the unfortunate reality for the people of Gaza. They must stop supporting the actions of terrorists and seek diplomacy.

Right... there are people even talking about prosecuting him as a war criminal,  but honestly, it is very likely he will never get a second in prison as long as he stays within the borders of Israel, eventually, he will be replaced as prime minister of the country and his successor still will not dare to cooperate with any organization seeking to judge him.
the United Nations have make it explicitly clear, when comes to Israel abandoning the West Bank after Hamas is dealt with, but the same which happens with the settlers in the east bank is possible, and the west bank could start to be settled and slowly annexed as people forgets about this war.
It was bad enough to have people forced to live in a strip of land, all this situation is just insane for both sides, specially the innocent in the Strip who did not have anything to do with Hamas...

Not from his perspective.

He's not in prison, right?

Plus Israel is closer than ever to annexing the west bank.  Cherry on top.

Look at all these newbies speading the same old zionist propaganda, all the money that Isreal has been spending for decades ( more so the U.S taxpayer 's money ) was never enough to hide the truth.

So you believe that more than 37,000 people killed during 250 days of fighting were members of the Hamas organization? In your opinion, the entire Gaza Strip consists of 2.4 million fighters are members within an armed organization? This number exceeds the number of soldiers in all NATO countries combined. What you're saying is nonsense.
Israel is waging a conflict in a geographical area that does not exceed 365 square kilometers, densely populated (the most densely populated in the world), and has only succeeded in killing people and destroying infrastructure. Would you call this a victory? If it achieves its goals, then why is it sitting at the negotiating table? It is an exhausting war for Israel, and the killing of civilians has thrown it into an internal crisis and an international crisis as well. Please take a look at the reports of the United Nations and international humanitarian organizations. Is the United Nations a terrorist organization too?

The West Bank does not have Hamas or armed organizations. Why does Israel kill citizens there too? Hamas is an organization that appeared in the mid-eighties. Can you explain to me the reason for killing Palestinians before that date?

Hamas has been fighting since the age of 15 (this is their problem, they are soldiers, not children), so they record their losses as children. Hamas is very wrong and Israel, regardless of who is in charge, will finish off the terrorists.

Defending a country does not mean one has a free pass to kill the innocent and also commit war crimes against them, though.
We could argue that the people of Gaza is the victim of what politicians cynically call "collateral damage", but to me, it is clear from the beginning the government of Netanyahu wanted to have a good excuse to move their war machinery against the people of Gaza.
In the beginning of this conflict, the people of the world had a very different image of the people and government of Israel, that image was been deteriorated by the atrocities which have been committed by the IDF... I mean, they have even admitted to accidentally kill hostages when they tried to approach the soldiers of Israel.
Each country has the right to defend themselves, but what Netanyahu is doing has been disgusted many within Israel as well. there is a good reason why protests and movements against Netanyahu are going on there.

I guess you mean Netanyahu, right? But can you determine from who exactly he protects his country? Do not forget that Netanyahu recruited the entire army to confront a fighting group, not a regular army. And what is the result? More than 37 thousand civilians were killed, two-thirds of whom were women and children. Is he protecting his country from the women and children who have already been trapped in the Strip for decades?
Suppose a terrorist group appeared in Haifa or Tel Aviv and killed Israelis, what would Netanyahu's response be if we followed the same strategy he adopted in Gaza? Will he destroy the entire city, force its residents to flee, and then pursue them wherever they fled, killing more of them?

Unfortunately, many of those following the crisis in Gaza build their views with a completely biased logic, and I do not understand how they ignore the atrocities committed by Israel. If Hamas is a terrorist group that committed a terrorist act on October 7, what do we call Israel, which has been carrying out similar acts for more than 75 years? I don't understand why many people avoid giving an answer to this question.

On the other hand, he is right and defends his country.

Following the same logic, why don't we ask Israel why it does not release thousands of Palestinian prisoners that it has been holding for decades without even being tried? If we consider the attack on Israel on October 7 to be a terrorist act, what do we call what Israel has been doing since 1948 (and even before that)?

You are about to justify horrific massacres with this logic.
Please note that the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis did not begin on October 7, and that Israel is implicated in the killing of thousands of civilians before October 7. Why is no one demanding that it be held accountable, or at least that what happened on October 7 be considered an act of resistance and not an act of terrorism, unless we evaluate what Israel is doing as terrorism as well?

According to the latest reports published today, more than 37 thousand Palestinians (civilians) have been killed since the start of the barbaric military operation in Gaza, in addition to the complete destruction of the infrastructure and the prevention of the entry of humanitarian aid. On the other hand, only 4 Israeli hostages were freed.
The Palestinian people are not Hamas, and Hamas does not exist in the West Bank. Can you explain to me why more than 100 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank even though there were no Hamas fighters there?

  They don't answer you for some reason. You ask them in Arabic.