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legendary
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June 19, 2021, 05:19:05 PM
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One thing that we are all familiar with is the psychology that the gambling industry has evaluated to keep their customer to gamble by using the so-called "hooks".
I remember watching a similar documentary on how they keep the gamblers from leaving and continue gambling on their casino. These so-called "hooks" are usually free drinks and snacks etc... throughout the time that you are in the casino. also, the placing of their games in the casino can influence your subconscious choice. if you think about it it is scary how they can easily influence your subconscious and the scarier part is it's not just them that are using this type of tactic.
Almost any business is doing something similar and it should not scare us, for example supermarkets do the same, I remember watching a documentary that said that the disposition of the products on the shelves depends on the preferences of the public at large, one of the things that I remember very clearly was that this created kind of weird combinations but that those stores followed them because it worked, for example besides diapers and other baby articles many stores place beers, this at the surface does not make sense but when you think about it and think of the scenario in which a father goes to buy diapers to his child then it makes sense to put beer besides it, as many people drink alcohol and this makes it easier for them to find it and buy it.
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On physical casinos, they serve you perks like energy drinks, liquor, and free food, and sometimes entertainment to keep you in their casinos, they don't have windows and if you run out of your money, they are ready to give you a credit line, because the longer you stay the better, they are not going to set up a casinos with their players staying for a few minutes, the casinos' atmosphere is meant for their clients to stay longer, so if you read or heard players playing for days and nights or not going out for days, those stories are true.
These players are called victims of the casino's setup atmosphere.
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?

Either this series was taken based on a book or some personal research but no one actually knows the hooks of gambling even if there is any because we are not seeing the gambling in 21st century or before which is happening for thousands of years.
I think people who watched that movie is just for entertainment because if they can watch carefully, maybe they will get something beneficial from that movie. Although if they use the strategy or method from that movie, it will not guarantee them to win the games, giving them more experience. Besides that, maybe watching that movie can provide them with an idea of what will they need to do later.
A common man who don't have any knowledge about economics, finance and particularly gambling can get the idea if they watch this series but no one can entirely decides what is happening while gambling, it will happen for sure even if people know that hooks that is why people keep betting and never wants to stop their gambling urge.
The situations will be different from what we see in that movie because we face the real situation. So maybe the strategy that we watch will not apply in real situations so we need to modify or even change it for our good. They still gamble with or without watching the movie, but it can give them more experience from that movie, especially how they can win the game with their own strategy. But always remember to control ourselves in gambling because we do not know what will happen in the real situation.
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Thank you for posting this. I cancelled my Netflix account a few month ago, so I don't see anymore when new documentaries are being uploaded. To be honest, the most shows that interest me are about finance and economics.That is also why I switched to curiosity steams. Hope they will add this series too. When it comes to money we can all learn more.
cancelled your account? or just did not renew contract ? that's different thing lol.

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But knowing the movie shared by OP , yeah Daytrading is like a gambling when you can mostly win for short period of time if you will risk money doing it.

Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?


There's no need for revelation mate because we as gamblers already knew that and only need to accept that fact.
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I almost googled all the stuff that you have just said.

There are urban legends of casinos pumping additional oxygen into the air to make gamblers feel more awake and gamble longer.
Also rumors they pump pheremones into the air to give people a positive feeling while gambling to make the experience more addictive.
This issue is something I did not expect. I wonder if there are still land-based casinos doing this? Isn't it that pheremones is usually being used in the dating world? It's a chemical substance that makes you more attractive in a way that you can attract the opposite sex. How does it relate to gambling?

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If their series is truly about explaining money and finance, however. Wouldn't they cover so called sharps who rake in large profits through gambling. The market has to be exploding at the moment with all the attention and focus draftkings and fanduel is getting.
Thank you for this interesting insight. I have learned some of the terms/lingo that are being used in sports betting. Terms like sharps, draftsking, and fanduel are something I do not always encounter in this section, it's just interesting to see that sometimes what we're seeing on a documentary has some missing parts that need to be discussed in order to make a favorable conclusion
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Netflix is ​​meant to protect traders from all aspects of gambling trading as well as make them full of risk. And netflix the video streaming service is being strict about password sharing one third of users of streaming service users like netflix exchange passwords with people far away so that their subscribers no longer exchange passwords with anyone else who is away. They are putting in place security measures to prevent extreme misuse of password exchanges strong protection against gambling.
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If about psychology, yeah dopamine shot is the main reason of addiction both trading and gambling, the pleasure of winning big money in a short time. I find compulsion loop explanation is more straightforward:

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a compulsion loop creates a three-part cycle: the anticipation of receiving some reward, the activity that must be completed to receive that reward, and the act of finally obtaining the reward.
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The good news is we can break this loop by obtaining the reward aka dopamine by doing simple activity, such as cleaning up our room, posting on bitcointalk, walking a dog, etc. Just simple tasks to divert the craving and getting the dopamine anywhere else than the casino.
Oh, if only it was that simple. A simple activity like walking a dog gives one a very small dopamine release, that's nothing compared to what gambling can give to people, that's why it's so much more addictive. To activate the so-called "brain reward system" (which ensures dopamine release) you need a strong trigger, something thrilling. That's why the only way to overcome gambling addiction, for now, is either with the use of specific medications, that quench the excitement (e.g. mood stabilizers) or with switching to something else that also triggers dopamine release to the same extent (e.g. other exciting activity, or, again, medications, like serotonin reuptake inhibitors).
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alarming issue that I have heard where it says that day trading is just pure gambling.

Can't argue with that. I have a friend who is enough skilled and famous trader, and he told me in fact the same, that day trading is a trading with very small risk/reward ratio and very small chance of success probability. So Netflix is right here  Cheesy
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?

Either this series was taken based on a book or some personal research but no one actually knows the hooks of gambling even if there is any because we are not seeing the gambling in 21st century or before which is happening for thousands of years.
I think people who watched that movie is just for entertainment because if they can watch carefully, maybe they will get something beneficial from that movie. Although if they use the strategy or method from that movie, it will not guarantee them to win the games, giving them more experience. Besides that, maybe watching that movie can provide them with an idea of what will they need to do later.
A common man who don't have any knowledge about economics, finance and particularly gambling can get the idea if they watch this series but no one can entirely decides what is happening while gambling, it will happen for sure even if people know that hooks that is why people keep betting and never wants to stop their gambling urge.
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I recently watched the first 4 episodes of Netflix's "Money, Explained" and one of its episodes discusses the mechanism of how our brains work when gambling. Personally, the "Gambling" episode was an eye-opener for me as I have gained a lot of interesting facts and different collective opinions which might give us a different point of view.

The Gist of the episode:

The fourth episode is all about gambling, its history, the psychology behind it, the process of getting hooked into gambling as well the most alarming issue that I have heard where it says that day trading is just pure gambling.

One thing that we are all familiar with is the psychology that the gambling industry has evaluated to keep their customer to gamble by using the so-called "hooks". These hooks are something that will make people sit for long hours while making their gambling experience more enjoyable and enticing to make a lot of money. In effect, if these people have been "hooked", they will now fall under a mental state[1] of total focus called the "The Zone". This means that the long hours of keeping people into gambling, the more money they can take out of other people's pockets.

These psychology tactics have also led other trading and investing company to use them to keep people unaware of the risk they are taking while being spammed with notifications of the current market sentiment, and an opportunity to get a free stock. Moreover, this episode also emphasizes that day trading is equivalent to gambling.

My take:

I am aware that the argument about day trading as gambling or not has been discussed often before and it could be tiring to prove a particular point due to its subjective nature. One could say that day trading is a combination of little to non T. A and pure luck, others would say that day trading could never equate to gambling since the ability to read charts and proper risk management would decrease the percentage of getting rekt.

It will just result in a never-ending comparison.

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[1] https://www.peaksports.com/sports-psychology-blog/mindsets-to-help-athletes-perform-in-the-zone/



Yes, in my opinion, trading on short time frames is the same as gambling. 

In fact, there are no patterns on short-term timeframes that a trader could use to make a profit.  The price can go up ... The price can go down ...

The game involves algorithmic bots.  The human brain cannot compete with algorithms.  Algorithms are faster.  Medium-term or long-term exchange trading is another matter ...

This is a completely different matter.  This kind of trading is not like gambling. 

Investing is even less like gambling.
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My Netflix subscription just expired last week but since I was going to renew it anyways I will check this docu-film out.
Thanks for this as I had always wondered about how the brain functions in a high tension situation while it is in this environment.

I know when I lose I tend to always want to win my money back so this knee-jerk reaction is called rage betting according what others have called it on a gambling chat to me many of times. Grin

It is a rather common occurrence among bettors in general.
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?

Either this series was taken based on a book or some personal research but no one actually knows the hooks of gambling even if there is any because we are not seeing the gambling in 21st century or before which is happening for thousands of years.
I think people who watched that movie is just for entertainment because if they can watch carefully, maybe they will get something beneficial from that movie. Although if they use the strategy or method from that movie, it will not guarantee them to win the games, giving them more experience. Besides that, maybe watching that movie can provide them with an idea of what will they need to do later.
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some belief I got from the Episode. that's why we gamble.

a. Gambler's Fallacy one woman said that if she loses 4 spins, the 5th one must be big lol and this is from the episode itself and I quote the narrator "We keep playing because we believe a win is due and then surprise if it doesn't come."

b. Illusion of control which is the belief that you can increase your odds in the face of pure chance for the lottery players.

these two may probably exist as well in trader's mind. some of us keep losing money when betting the price could go up in a period of time and then eventually lose still. it's not even a binary option but simply the spot market.

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I think gambling here is referring to casino gambling where games are more or less luck-based. If so, that would be a lot different from day trading. When you're on a slot machine, for example, the main thing that you do is to pull that lever, cross your fingers, and hope that you'd hit the jackpot. That's not what day trading is about. If that's what a day trader does, he/she better quit. There is a need to analyze in day trading. There's nothing to analyze in luck-based casino games.
Isn't online gambling luck based or should I say odd based like any physical casino? The daytrading stuff needs an analytical skill unlike gambling where you really rely on odds instead of your skills. There's a lot to analyze in a "luck based" casino, it's called statistics and probability.

Not necessarily. I mean online gambling does not depend solely on luck. Sports betting is online gambling and it does not depend on luck. It has odds but the odds are based on analysis. In terms of casino games, they are not all luck-based either. When you play roulette, slots, dice, and so on, you just have to rely on luck. But that is not necessarily the case when you play poker, for example, or blackjack. Some need skills on top of luck.
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?
it's not really a secret it's just that many gamblers don't know about it or even if they know, they would still fall for it one way or another. also, gambling companies aren't the only ones doing this kind of tactics. you'd be surprised that a simple grocery store is using the same thing to make you spend more on their store without even knowing it.
They lure you with freebies and lot of things but with gambling there is something which bring psychological effect that is why we want to keep betting again and again which is also some kind of addiction but people do this with their presence of mind so this can be distinguished as severe addiction as well.
That's right, Business operators are using psychology on setting up their business to gain the upper hand or to profit the customer more. Casino, Store shelves, Buffet placements are just some of the examples where this psychology stuff is used by a businessman. Most of the tricks are revealed in the public but the trick of it is so good that you can be a victim even you know how it works.
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?
it's not really a secret it's just that many gamblers don't know about it or even if they know, they would still fall for it one way or another. also, gambling companies aren't the only ones doing this kind of tactics. you'd be surprised that a simple grocery store is using the same thing to make you spend more on their store without even knowing it.
They lure you with freebies and lot of things but with gambling there is something which bring psychological effect that is why we want to keep betting again and again which is also some kind of addiction but people do this with their presence of mind so this can be distinguished as severe addiction as well.
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?
it's not really a secret it's just that many gamblers don't know about it or even if they know, they would still fall for it one way or another. also, gambling companies aren't the only ones doing this kind of tactics. you'd be surprised that a simple grocery store is using the same thing to make you spend more on their store without even knowing it.
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Do you really believe that, the strategies used by the gambling companies so called hooks will be revealed to the public?

Either this series was taken based on a book or some personal research but no one actually knows the hooks of gambling even if there is any because we are not seeing the gambling in 21st century or before which is happening for thousands of years.
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It's like a pay to win tricks thus, this is where the saying goes as gambling is for entertainment purposes only and people would be spending a lot of money make them stay at the top while they display who's or what are the benefits they could get they entice a potential gamblers to reach the top rank. People would be eager to spend more money to climb up the rank but little did they know it's the trick of the casino how to hook a potential gamblers. Once they knew you are a potential gamblers they always have their eyes on you.

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I watched it too, but I was a bit disappointed that they did not go a little deeper into the tricks used by casinos to get people to gamble more and more. The people in the industry says... "The best kind of gambler for a casino is a drunk gambler." - The drunk gambler are more likely to bet higher and lose track of how much they have gambled, so some casinos offer alcoholic drinks for free to people in the casino.  Roll Eyes

You will also never see windows and clocks in a casino, because they want you to lose track of time. You also get a "Free Room" in the Hotel, because they do not want you to go home. They also introduce "Player's Club Levels" ..so the more you play the higher you move up the levels. (The best benefits are at the top levels, so all the players want to climb the ladder and they spend more money to get there)

These are just some of the tricks used.... and they did not even cover any of them.  Roll Eyes
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