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sr. member
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September 02, 2011, 11:12:47 AM
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I'll try one of mine on my EVO later today, on which note two questoins
1 how far is this from your house or other wifi would long range wifi be an option
2 you can purchase a used android device and then use it on sprint as a pay as you go through virgin for unlimited data only carrier left with it is sprint(and it's sub companies virgin and boost)
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September 02, 2011, 10:53:15 AM
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Has anyone actually done this? I mean really put up a mining rig on a 3g or 4g network and has some empirical performance data to share?

Thank you!

P.S any chance of moving this out of the Newbies section into Mining where it can get some more eyeballs and hopefully responses?
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The 6990 have actually Two GPU's inside Smiley

I must assume the 10MB/day are for gpu's like 6970 and the like ?

A single 6990 would consume 20MB/day ?

Regards.

Correct.

I'm pulling it based off of slush's calculations done a while ago:

Rough calculation:

One request: 300 bytes of HTTP request, 700 bytes of data ==> ~1 kB of data every 5 seconds for each worker. It is 12kB per minute per worker.

It actually comes out to about 17.2MB per day, per worker, but I think that's a bit on the high side.  Someone else said 36MB per day with BTC Guild... But I honestly think it's closer to 10MB per day... I don't think there's HTTP traffic every 5 seconds... Though I could be wrong.

One of these days, I'll actually do a tcpdump at the firewall and add up the traffic amounts over a 24 hours period.

Cheers,
Kermee
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Hi,

10MB... Per day... PER WORKER (GPU).

Just wanted it to be clear Wink

Cheers,
Kermee

Smiley Smiley

Thanks ... but this is still not clear Smiley Smiley

The 6990 have actually Two GPU's inside Smiley
So ...
I must assume the 10MB/day are for gpu's like 6970 and the like ?

A single 6990 would consume 20MB/day ?


Regards.
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10MB... Per day... PER WORKER (GPU).

Just wanted it to be clear Wink

Cheers,
Kermee
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The quote below may help though. The guy said he is using 36 MB per miner per day at btcguild. That is about 1 GB per month. 5 rigs, right at 5 gigs. The latency and everything although not great for first person shooters may give you a few more stale % than the fastest lowest latency connection, but probably won't be too bad when we are talking usually less than a second difference.

Cool!
That should do it.
I am also considering a Second card, but that cost much more I have to see what will happen and test it.

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I bet there are people that are using aircards for mining. One card should be able to be shared by 5 machines no problem. If you did something like the mifi where it is a wireless hot spot, you could push that to an access point and then use traditional ethernet to route it to your machines.

If you happen to be in a clear.com 4g area, you can get a modem that converts it directly to ethernet. The 4g portion also has no 5 gb limit like the 3g side does and the price is still very competitive.


It's like this ... I am a Linux guy, so the only thing I need is one of those usb 3G pen modems from Vodafone (Huawey models) and a ethernet switch Smiley
That's it.
Nothing else to increase latency in the middle like wifi hotspots ...


Regards.
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Hi,

those speeds are probably fine.

also keep in mind that most carriers got rid of their unlimited plans, or they throttle the rate to a lower level after you hit a certain threshold.
 
probably safe estimating that you'll see about 10mb down and 5mb up per day, per rig.    i.e., 3g probably won't work for you.
Thanks for your reply:

Just for a matter of accuracy:
You mean:

10 Mega Bytes per day 10MB down and 5Mega Bytes per day up 5MB ? Right  Smiley ?
(not 10mega bits ... 10mb)

Regards.
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HI,

Thanks a lot for all your answers!

Ok, some more info.

All of those options have indeed limitless Time and Data use, but they all cut bandwidth after a data limit.

Option 1: After 1GB download speed =  128 Kbps
Option 2: After 2GB download speed =  128 Kbps
Option 3: After 4GB download speed =  128 Kbps

That sucks!
They do not even speak about upload speeds after the data limit.

I imagine it will be also 128Kpbs.

The operator is Vodafone.
Anyway they have a more interesting plan with:


Option 4:

7.2 Mbps download, 1.4Mbps Upload No Data Limits !


Regards.
sr. member
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Agreed, Bitcoin mining uses very little bandwidth overall.  Even kilobits-per-second would be fine.  What you should be more concerned with is the ping time, AKA network latency.  The higher the latency, the higher the chance that the block you "found" will have already been discovered by someone else in the time it takes to propagate through the network.

EDIT:  For "3G" at least on the USA's AT&T network, I've never had much worse than 1-second ping times.  "EDGE" service had closer to 3-second ping times.  Or in gamer terms, World of Warcraft was laggy but playable on 3G, but completely unplayable on EDGE. 
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those speeds are probably fine.

also keep in mind that most carriers got rid of their unlimited plans, or they throttle the rate to a lower level after you hit a certain threshold.
 
probably safe estimating that you'll see about 10mb down and 5mb up per day, per rig.    i.e., 3g probably won't work for you.
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Hi,


That is really not good.
I think that can happen because of crowded 3G spots ...
Anyway a figure for the bandwidth usage would be cool ...


Regards.
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Bitcoin doesn't use that much bandwidth so I don't think that'll be a problem... but the latency of 3G is probably going to drive your stales up a fair bit. 3G latency can easily reach several seconds, and I think people may have even seen packet latencies of over a minute on occasion...
newbie
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Hi,


I would like to know how much bandwidth a system with 5 Quad 6990 would use.
I plan to have the system deployed in a location where only 3G access is possible.

The bandwidth I have is:

Option 1:

1Mbps download 384Kps upload

Option 2:

1Mbps download 384Kps upload


Option 3:

4Mbps download 640Kps upload


Is this enough for a set of 5 mining rigs each with 4 X 6990 ?

Regards.
 
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