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But in my perspective, expecting to consistently win at gambling is being greedy. It's similar to expecting a guaranteed constant profit in business. There will always be times when you win and times when you lose. You start saving during your winning streak.
You claim that the individual in issue is greedy and that he allowed his love of money to sabotage his potential or, to put it another way, his luck.
His reliance on gambling as a source of income was his worst error. Let's hope he took this as a lesson.
I agree with this because it is precisely by expecting things like this that will make the ego even bigger which only leads to emotional things that make the intention in gambling far away and will actually make us lose.
Even though in this case expecting victory is not wrong but in other conditions, we must realize that concepts like this clearly will not be accepted especially with conditions where we know that gambling we clearly will not be able to beat the bookie.
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But in my perspective, expecting to consistently win at gambling is being greedy. It's similar to expecting a guaranteed constant profit in business. There will always be times when you win and times when you lose. You start saving during your winning streak.
You claim that the individual in issue is greedy and that he allowed his love of money to sabotage his potential or, to put it another way, his luck.
His reliance on gambling as a source of income was his worst error. Let's hope he took this as a lesson.
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1st day, he won $670+
2nd day, he won $702+
3rd day, he won $692+
This are the ones I know and saw the slip myself...
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Long story short, 2 months after the whole winning spree, this guy lost everything back to casinos where he gambled on, he made gambling his day job, probably increased his bets so as to win more,  but as of today, this guy is joblessly roaming the streets, depend solely on friends to feed, as of yesterday when I overheard him discussing with some one I am also close to, he was asking to help him look for a Job, that what he planned didn't work out - what ever he planned that didn't work out, I don't know, but this is a lesson for us all to learn from.

I feel sorry for your friend but the first thing to say here is that he has no idea about the underlying mathematics of gambling, otherwise there is no way he would have quit his job for a simple short-term positive streak. Your friend got lucky despite having the odds against him and not because he had a special skill or anything.

If people knew the meaning of expected value and were aware that casino games are negative expected value, these things would not happen.

Can't really vouch nor confirm the validity of your story but that doesn't make the message all the less relevant. Just a couple of weeks ago I saw someone in this very board asking for ways to earn $100 consistently through gambling, which is of course a farfetched dream and a miracle that will never happen.

Yes, I saw it too. In that thread I explained that even in poker, which is a game where you can win money consistently and in the long term, winning $100 a day (on average) is very difficult, within reach of few, you would have to have a good bankroll, and play many hands. Actually, as the OP put it, with a bankroll of $2K it is practically impossible, and with a higher bankroll, only within the reach of a few after many years of study, practice and effort.
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It probably does give them a sort of satisfaction when others envy their wins and praise them for being so lucky, even if they are not really lucky and everyone once in a blue moon manages to get some winnings which is not a big deal, a big deal would be if your win over loss ratio is high and you are not still recovering from what you've lost in the past.

A real honest gambler will always declare their losses as well and admit that even if they've managed to hit big this time, they have seen a lot of loss streaks as well in the past and now it feels good to finally win something.
It is very common for people to share their success stories and to hide their failures, and this is not exclusive to gambling, just take a look at social media and you will get what I mean, in there you will find people bragging about all their accomplishments and if you took them by their words you would think that the majority of the people are living their dream life, but that is a lie, most people only tell you the good side of the story, they never tell you all the bad things that happened to them, and gamblers are not an exception to this, they are very eager to share that one time in which everything went their way, but they never tell you about the countless sessions in which this was not the case.
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Can't really vouch nor confirm the validity of your story but that doesn't make the message all the less relevant. Just a couple of weeks ago I saw someone in this very board asking for ways to earn $100 consistently through gambling, which is of course a farfetched dream and a miracle that will never happen. This is a sentiment to everyone who sees gambling as a way to earn more money.

You can't earn consistently with gambling. Ultimately all the money that thebcasino gave you through your wins and prizes, they're bound to take back somewhere. You're not the next slumdog millionaire, so don't push your luck and find a better way to earn more income rather than hoping your luck favors you.
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Only those who are extremely lucky manage to get winnings from gambling and that too isn't permanent, even the luckiest people start losing after a few days of their winning streak because that's how gambling works.
People believe that you can make money from gambling because these so called lucky people only shows their winnings they boast their winning to people because they get satisfaction from boasting their winnings but kept quiet when they are losing, this is one part of compulsive gamblers they derive their happiness from making people believe that they are expert and lucky in gambling, but in reality these compulsive gamblers are knee deep in debt.

I have seen a lot of people creating threads to post their winnings and bragging that they know how to win but they cannot keep up because there are days that they have a long losing run, even if they tried to win they cannot so their thread gets buried because they have a hard time winning again.
It probably does give them a sort of satisfaction when others envy their wins and praise them for being so lucky, even if they are not really lucky and everyone once in a blue moon manages to get some winnings which is not a big deal, a big deal would be if your win over loss ratio is high and you are not still recovering from what you've lost in the past.

A real honest gambler will always declare their losses as well and admit that even if they've managed to hit big this time, they have seen a lot of loss streaks as well in the past and now it feels good to finally win something.
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Nothing lasts forever
Consistency is the key to many dreams but not gambling. Gambling shouldn't even be considered as a way to get an income.
It is something we do for fun and I personally think returns from gambling are a way to gamble for a longer time.
When we get profits we use it to gamble further until eventually we all lose it all.
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I have seen a lot of people creating threads to post their winnings and bragging that they know how to win but they cannot keep up because there are days that they have a long losing run, even if they tried to win they cannot so their thread gets buried because they have a hard time winning again.

Agree, I don't know what's up with these people who keep on making some thread to share their winnings because I'm somehow confused between the lines where I'm not sure if they are bragging or just wanted to be famous (even if that is not really achievable by doing those kind of things). Even the so-called professional gamblers are not exempted from loss, they too have their own share of defeats in gambling but the beauty about them is that they know how to control and know how to bounce back from that loss so that their status will be maintained.
It's normal for people to keep sharing their big win stories with others. Perhaps, they want to show that they are really good at betting and want others to follow suit. But unfortunately, they don't provide or show info when they lose and choose to remain silent for a while. There are many people like this, and we must be careful if we want to follow the stakes and only bet using the money we can afford. Meanwhile, people who often bet on sports betting or casinos understand that winning will not always be on their side, so they must be prepared if they lose. And they are the ones who know how to deal with gambling and won't gamble if they don't want to.
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I have seen a lot of people creating threads to post their winnings and bragging that they know how to win but they cannot keep up because there are days that they have a long losing run, even if they tried to win they cannot so their thread gets buried because they have a hard time winning again.

Agree, I don't know what's up with these people who keep on making some thread to share their winnings because I'm somehow confused between the lines where I'm not sure if they are bragging or just wanted to be famous (even if that is not really achievable by doing those kind of things). Even the so-called professional gamblers are not exempted from loss, they too have their own share of defeats in gambling but the beauty about them is that they know how to control and know how to bounce back from that loss so that their status will be maintained.
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This is such a great story, there are so many people who may relate on this story, it always happen to anybody who gamble. Whenever we gamble and we keep on winning maybe around 3 streak, then we win again, we will think that it is our lucky day so we wont stop and will still continue playing the game, but then if we get our first lost that time we wont still stop because you are thinking that you still have the money so we will still play until we lost all our money.

Always be mindful whenever we gamble, always remember to be contented, it will really help you in gambling world.
You have to know your limits and when you are going to stop, do not let the gamble controls you but you should be the one who need to control it.
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Only those who are extremely lucky manage to get winnings from gambling and that too isn't permanent, even the luckiest people start losing after a few days of their winning streak because that's how gambling works.

People believe that you can make money from gambling because these so called lucky people only shows their winnings they boast their winning to people because they get satisfaction from boasting their winnings but kept quiet when they are losing, this is one part of compulsive gamblers they derive their happiness from making people believe that they are expert and lucky in gambling, but in reality these compulsive gamblers are knee deep in debt.

I have seen a lot of people creating threads to post their winnings and bragging that they know how to win but they cannot keep up because there are days that they have a long losing run, even if they tried to win they cannot so their thread gets buried because they have a hard time winning again.
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Such stories are nothing more than rubbish, witches can't make you lucky or make you win in gambling, your luck and your destiny can't be changed that way. And it does happen when you become lucky and win consecutively for a few days and that is when you start thinking that it might work even after all those days.

But what happens is that you start losing after that winning streak which is always going to happen since it's gambling and it's based on your luck, and no one in the world in my opinion can be lucky all the time in their lives.
Gambling is not something reliable thing which you can trust and use your everything in that,  this thought and act of totally depending on it is foolish .
You can do gambling as fun and with limited resources so that If you loose you don't end up being broke and depress .
Obviously, those who think that witches or some unimaginable power that doesn't even exist might make them lucky or make them win more in gambling are the most foolish people one can ever know. I don't believe in any of that and no one should do, there is no reality in such stories and they are all just made up by people.

Only those who are extremely lucky manage to get winnings from gambling and that too isn't permanent, even the luckiest people start losing after a few days of their winning streak because that's how gambling works.
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This is a great example as to why we should learn how to handle financial aspects and take the responsibility on another level. Gambling is a huge risk. It requires a good decision making skills, luck, and sometimes skills. If you will not be disciplined in making bets and in playing, there's a high probability that you will experience the same as the one involved in the personal story OP shared.

Learning from someone's mistake instead of doing it so that you'll learn eventually is a better option. We have to weigh the pros and cons of every action we will do before executing it because it might cause harm than what we expected if we will just decide impulsively. I hope you, OP, learned from your friend's mistake so that the same unfortunate situation won't happen to you.
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The guy you told us about was too naive and arrogant, which is why his gambling experience was so bitter. The winnings clouded his mind and he showed you his true face. Do not do business with him, for such people cannot be loyal for long. If you want to help him, advise him to see a specialist and quit gambling for a while.  
I don't think he can quite gambling so easily after experience such huge and massive  win, the best he can do for himself is to just lay low for some time and let his pride, greed and ego go because that's what actually caused his problem in the first place. Not everyone in the world today knows how to control money so many just let the money control them and its very bad because money amplifies someone character and its bring out the natural character of the person.
Yes the greed of money brings people down a lot, the same thing happened to that person. If a person thinks that he needs a luxurious life after he is comfortable in life, then his greed for money will cease and if one is satisfied with that, then he should not be greedy for money. The bottom line is that unless there is a strong backup of money, there will be greed for money condition for being arrogant.
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so sad, how long do we keep the advice coming before some persons are able to understand how life plays??
To everyone, there's an opportunity to make it big but we often times abuse this opportunity and expect that it'll last forever. I am not against him quitting his job, probably that was the space he would have needed in order to think and make a proper plan, squandering the money on frivolities instead of investing it in something that'll stand the test of time was stupidity on his side...

I see his circle are nice people.to even accept him back proves that, that kind of person cannot be my friend.
The story shared by the OP is a very clear example of how someone can leave everything behind and believe they have a chance to pursue a particular lifestyle when the success they have gotten so far is incredibly small, in a way this reminds me of all examples of people that try to become movie stars, they leave everything behind only to be disappointed by the results they get, and I will be honest if I was one of his friends I will not want to have anything to do with him, as someone that does what he did to his friends is someone that does not deserve that friendship at all.
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Let's begin with a story (more like a parable) which I think is familiar to some of us...

A Man on his sick bed called two of his sons, and asked both of them, "you both have heard that experience is the best teacher right?"

They both answered - "yes dad"

He then asked the first son - "you my first son, how or what is the best way to learn from experience?"

The first son, after thinking for a while answered "learning from my mistakes, that is, never making the same mistake twice".

The father answered - "that's very good my son, you've answered well".

Then turned to the second son, and asked him the same question..

The second son answered immediately - "it is good to learn from my mistakes, but I think it is better to learn from other people's mistakes, so that I won't have to make mistakes myself before I learn".

The father looked at him and was short of words to empress himself, he told both of them to go, but later called the second son privately and said to him, "I am astonished by the level of your wisdom, you can't take your elder brother's place as my first son, but I put him under your care, do all you can to keep him from taking wrong decisions".

Now, To the main discussion...

Please note that I've previously touched on this topic HERE, but I decide to escalate it as a topic to better reach more gamblers who possibly could learn from the experience..

A supposed friend, he working and has been gambling for a while, recently got lucky, won consistently for 3 good days consecutively..

1st day, he won $670+
2nd day, he won $702+
3rd day, he won $692+
This are the ones I know and saw the slip myself...

For most of us in my area here, it was like he did a charm, I personally envied him to be sincere, but not with any evil intention , I only wished I was as lucky as him..

But the sad thing about the whole thing was that, he's attitude changes, those are big amount when converted to my country's local currency, but not big enough to warrant his Change of attitude..
He started spending anyhow, sleeping in different hotels with different women - before this, he already quit his job, he bought himself an iPhone and also bought an iPhone for one hoe that was following him up and down as a girlfriend - he left our neighborhood and moved to a better place and a bigger apartment, he become arrogant and left some of his friends in times of want behind, he did all he did probably with a mindset that the winnings will keep coming, some even spread some rumor that the guy meet a witch doctor who prepared a luck charm for him, which is what gave him the confidence of quiting his job - to me, this remains a rumor, since there is no way to verify if this is true of false.

Long story short, 2 months after the whole winning spree, this guy lost everything back to casinos where he gambled on, he made gambling his day job, probably increased his bets so as to win more,  but as of today, this guy is joblessly roaming the streets, depend solely on friends to feed, as of yesterday when I overheard him discussing with some one I am also close to, he was asking to help him look for a Job, that what he planned didn't work out - what ever he planned that didn't work out, I don't know, but this is a lesson for us all to learn from.

Gambling is not a business, and neither should you ever take it as a day job, in reference to this thread - it is likely impossible to make a consistent winning from gambling, there are day you win, even much more than $100, and there are days you will lose it all, to make a consistent $100 or more every day in gambling is a mirage, wishful thinking that might never happen.

Feel free to chip in your contribution.
so sad, how long do we keep the advice coming before some persons are able to understand how life plays??
To everyone, there's an opportunity to make it big but we often times abuse this opportunity and expect that it'll last forever. I am not against him quitting his job, probably that was the space he would have needed in order to think and make a proper plan, squandering the money on frivolities instead of investing it in something that'll stand the test of time was stupidity on his side...

I see his circle are nice people.to even accept him back proves that, that kind of person cannot be my friend.
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Hopefully, he can learn from his experience and never repeat the same mistake. And if he is already experiencing a gambling addiction, he should ask for help from other people to help him cure his gambling addiction. And that he has to do before he has a new job so it won't make him go back to gambling after getting a new job. If he cannot cure his gambling addiction, it will not make him stop gambling but will only make him sink deeper into gambling because, from his new job, he will be able to earn income to gamble again.
if the person is wise in responding to his problem or the lessons he has learned, he should think about the long term such as curing himself from gambling addiction or if he is not an addict he can go to a psychology doctor to get a solution to improve himself before getting a new job.
because it's only useless if you still have a great desire to gamble when he has got a new job, he can spend all his salary on gambling and it gets worse.
He should have become self-aware of what he's got and know he has a problem that must be cured. But if he can't learn from his experiences or even get deeper into gambling, no one can help him and he will only get worse from gambling.

When someone has money, is used to gambling, and has no self-control, he will only use that money to gamble. He will not think about his life or start a new life without gambling. Maybe someone else should stay with him while he's at home or out and about so that person can keep an eye on what he's doing. And if he wanted to gamble, that person would pull him elsewhere.
but in my opinion, if he has become a gambling addict, it will be very difficult for him to be self-aware because in his mind he is only gambling and winning big. It is this mindset that causes a person to become an addict when he wins large amounts at gambling and he feels and thinks about the results or big profits from gambling.
and it would all be better if the people themselves who wanted to live better avoided gambling or took gambling less seriously as just entertainment.

that's all I say from my own experience that I've been an addict.
A gambling addict will indeed find it difficult to be self-aware. Hopefully, an event will awaken him so he can get enlightenment that playing gambling is not good for him and he is already experiencing gambling addiction. A beginner new to gambling has a high potential to become a gambling addict, especially if he only follows his friend's invitation to gamble. And if he does not have self-control, he will gradually turn into a gambling addict. But even though he has become a gambling addict, it seems he will not blame his friends who have asked him to gamble.
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Gambling as a game of luck should not be expected to be won always because most times is not about what you know that plays out that's why is been called a game of luck, luck plays a major role in gambling so expect the unexpected as far as gambling is in play.
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For most of us in my area here, it was like he did a charm, I personally envied him to be sincere, but not with any evil intention , I only wished I was as lucky as him..

But the sad thing about the whole thing was that, he's attitude changes, those are big amount when converted to my country's local currency, but not big enough to warrant his Change of attitude..
He started spending anyhow, sleeping in different hotels with different women - before this, he already quit his job, he bought himself an iPhone and also bought an iPhone for one hoe that was following him up and down as a girlfriend - he left our neighborhood and moved to a better place and a bigger apartment, he become arrogant and left some of his friends in times of want behind, he did all he did probably with a mindset that the winnings will keep coming, some even spread some rumor that the guy meet a witch doctor who prepared a luck charm for him, which is what gave him the confidence of quiting his job - to me, this remains a rumor, since there is no way to verify if this is true of false.

Long story short, 2 months after the whole winning spree, this guy lost everything back to casinos where he gambled on, he made gambling his day job, probably increased his bets so as to win more,  but as of today, this guy is joblessly roaming the streets, depend solely on friends to feed, as of yesterday when I overheard him discussing with some one I am also close to, he was asking to help him look for a Job, that what he planned didn't work out - what ever he planned that didn't work out, I don't know, but this is a lesson for us all to learn from.

Gambling is not a business, and neither should you ever take it as a day job, in reference to this thread - it is likely impossible to make a consistent winning from gambling, there are day you win, even much more than $100, and there are days you will lose it all, to make a consistent $100 or more every day in gambling is a mirage, wishful thinking that might never happen.

Feel free to chip in your contribution.

Variance in gambling can be wild and it is a good lesson that you describe. Sometimes arrogance can blind a person into believing that they are highly skilled, when in actual fact they just got an extreme lucky sequence of events and it can all come crashing down one day. Unless you're doing a truly skilled activity, with many thousands of hours of evidence that you are profitable, probably accrued over years of hard work - then you might not have any sort of winning strategy at all. Your opening story makes reference to learning from other peoples mistakes, and this can work on a low level, however sometimes to truly learn a lesson and take heed it requires you to feel the pain so that you will not repeat it so hastily.
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Not that the guy is even rich yet, not that he built a mansion or a company for business. He rented an apartment and bought two iPhones and thought the earning will be consistent.

but this is a lesson for us all to learn from.
He left his job just because of gambling. That is stupidity. There is nothing I can learn about this but to see it as stupidity.

Although you are very correct, gambling should not be seen as a business. People that see it as business and a way to make income will always end like this.
The moment a gambler decides to leave completely his job so he can focus on gambling and gain bigger income, that is a total stupidity. No man has the right thinking to leave his stable job out from gambling. The only lesson I get here is gambling will never guarantee you to be profitable consistently. In times you’re lucky, you might be making profits but since most of the time we never get luck, so we always lost the chance and end up gambling at the losing end.

I would not quit my job even if I had enough money for 10 years of carefree life, because my goal is not to spend the money I have earned, but to multiply it. I agree with the forum users who think this guy was stupid for believing in himself and quitting his job. I think he is already regretting what he did.

If I had the money to live carefree for 10 years I would definitely quit my job and just do some side jobs,part time like 2-3 hours a day just to keep my brain active but the thing that most people fail to understand is exactly this multiply of money is what keeps people busy until the realize they have not much left to live and that is the biggest mistake anyone can make.I have my boss,he work like he is 20,stays awake and does not sleep and his life is a misery,he keeps staying in the office 24/7 and I don't get it,now he is 67 and I doubt he will live that long based on his way of life,he surely has not enjoyed money trying to keep multiplying and keep multiplying.It is funny as the daughter in law or son in law will enjoy his money,what a pathetic way to live one life in my view.
This is what im trying to achieve on which i do really thrive my best to be that financially free when im not still that old on which im really not letting myself do get badly beaten up due to stress or having no sleep
because we know that our body would really take out the toll. There's no point on making lots of money because once your body is really that ill or able to get that serious sickness or whatsoever correlated to this
then you would be definitely be able to spend all of those earnings into hospitalization and this is why it would really be that just right that everything should really be in balance.

We know that everything which is too much would really be putting us on harm.We should be wary on how risky gambling is and we should really accept the fact that its impossible that we would really be
having that disadvantage against house or simply we arent that lucky all the times. Its never been wise on seeing yourself dealing with gambling and leaving out
or quit your job just because you do believe that you could sustain out for the rest of your life? You are crazy if you do consider out such decision.
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