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Quote from: Etranger on August 21, 2024, 03:59:50 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 21, 2024, 02:20:04 AM

Better teach kids that gambling is for fun, not for money making, and show examples how they really can earn, and there will be much fewer problems.

In that case a kid could have a question, why someone has to play with real money just to have fun. This question sound very reasonable to me. After all, there are lots of other ways to have fun, without risking your money and possibility to end up in debts and with an addiction. What a parent should tell his child about that? I get your point about the necessity of drawing a line between gambling and earning. But my point is what is the argument to support precisely gambling as a way of having fun?

I have a pretty simple explanation for a kid in this case: "adults can use real money to gamble to have fun, when you grow up and have your own money, you can do with them whatever you want." And additional argument "adults can ride real cars, but because you are still young, you can ride only bicycle or car with pedals". But like you have said, there is plenty of ways to have fun, that is why kids wont pay much attention to gambling, as he will get fun from more simple things, the things that he understands.

My idea from the beginning was not to teach gambling as this is a way to have fun, but not to hide it on purpose, and if a kid ask, give explanation, give examples. I dont support teaching on purpose, but if kid noticed you gamble, just give an explanation of what you are doing. Instead of quickly closing browser or cleaning table from chips, cards or whatever is used to gamble.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on August 21, 2024, 04:40:24 AM

I would also refrain and be extremely careful with the game in front of my children, actually that is why I never do this and generally prefer that no one sees me or interferes when I am playing, because the presence of children and other people disrupts my concentration and can have a bad effect on my potential winnings.

And also an argument against gambling in front of children, or anyone else for that matter, is that gambling can cause some pretty intense emotions in people that are often hard to control. And I don't think anyone wants to show that in front of their children, especially if it involves a strong negative reaction as a result of losing. So in addition to not setting an example for your children that you don't want them to repeat, you also need to remember that your children don't need to see you in states that you're not proud of.

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Quote from: sompitonov on August 20, 2024, 10:11:42 AM

This week, looking at children, I was once again convinced that they copy many things that adults do, I would even call them little copy machines) In general, not only bets, but also other things we should do with caution in front of children. Well, on the other hand, I saw a lot of nonsense in my childhood, I often saw adults drinking alcohol, and smoking was common ... and probably it had a good effect on me, because I am indifferent to alcohol and do not smoke. So everything also depends on the upbringing of the child, how much he can distinguish things that should not be abused, as well as white from black. Probably there are cases when children saw their parents playing gambling and then they had nothing to eat, so when they grew up, they never touched gambling. But I think there are not very many such examples in fact.

Children are still exploring our world and some things are better not to show them until a certain age, because in the future life it can have a destructive effect on them at a certain period. And the most interesting thing is that it can emerge for them at a certain period, for example, in adulthood or when they themselves start their own family and the trigger for them will be memories of when their father played gambling. In general, all this is quite complicated, as a result, I would also refrain and be extremely careful with the game in front of my children, actually that is why I never do this and generally prefer that no one sees me or interferes when I am playing, because the presence of children and other people disrupts my concentration and can have a bad effect on my potential winnings.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 21, 2024, 02:20:04 AM

Better teach kids that gambling is for fun, not for money making, and show examples how they really can earn, and there will be much fewer problems.

In that case a kid could have a question, why someone has to play with real money just to have fun. This question sound very reasonable to me. After all, there are lots of other ways to have fun, without risking your money and possibility to end up in debts and with an addiction. What a parent should tell his child about that? I get your point about the necessity of drawing a line between gambling and earning. But my point is what is the argument to support precisely gambling as a way of having fun?

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Quote from: m2017 on August 20, 2024, 09:23:54 AM

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Btw, despite gambling, parents do all kind of activities that are inappropriate for underaged. Do you think kids really focus on all of them? Example. We dont let kids use sharp objects like knifes or scissors. The damage they can do with it is immediate (not just a possibility like gambling addiction). However they see us using them, but they dont focus on them, nor show a huge passion to use them. Moreover, if a kid is a girl, we even push or ask her to help to cook, to slice something and etc. We even teach them to use it when they are very young and give them toy kitchen as a toy to play with plastic knifes and etc. Then where is logic here? From very young age we teach them to use dangerous objects.

If we continue your thought, then children should simply be taught how to play gambling games correctly and benefit from it, similar to scissors used in everyday life or a knife used to cook dinner?

I would only add one condition: that children should look for/earn money for gambling on their own.

To succeed in any business, you need to start learning it from an early age. Look at any sports champion - they all do it from an early age. Therefore, to earn millions in gambling, you need to start doing it from childhood, to gain huge experience and develop skills.

P.S. Just in case, I am against children's gambling (children should not be allowed to those types of activities in which most adults are losers) and this is just a light joke.

Nope, my thought was different. From just seeing someone gamble, or giving a little try, or having an explanation what gambling is, nothing really bad wont happen. If parents do it none stop, than yes, there will be consequences. Better teach kids that gambling is for fun, not for money making, and show examples how they really can earn, and there will be much fewer problems.

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From what I understand at my age, gambling should never be allowed. But if one plays then one must be careful so that no child gets addicted to your game. I don't know how true that is, but even if I play it for fun, I still care that it's not Children are not around.

But whatever I do I always think that gambling should not be done. That's because it's an easy way to destroy people's lives. So a person should always remember that I can always refrain from it because if I become its strength then my family can be destroyed.

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Quote from: hahay on August 20, 2024, 10:02:31 AM

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on August 19, 2024, 11:56:05 AM

In whatever you do, don't allow your kids to emulate anything bad from you... Do I really need to recap? No!
Children are wonderful creatures with a more receptive brain than an adult... They learn so fast by how much they see - that's exactly why the kindergarten level would use physical objects, pictures and diagrams to teach them. Don't worry about the practice - you'll be shocked to your bones that these kids are always watching you...beware!

Basically, we realize that we should only do good things in front of our children and thus,if we shouldn't gamble in front of children then it can be assumed that gambling is bad. But somehow,there are still many people who rely on gambling as an income, despite the fact that gambling is bad. Therefore, gambling will only be good to do as a pleasure or just betting with ready money to lose.

Because anyway, if we assume that children are not allowed to gamble, because basically children also do not have a steady source of income and they will easily lose everything and then get depressed because they are unable to control their emotions and anger.

This week, looking at children, I was once again convinced that they copy many things that adults do, I would even call them little copy machines) In general, not only bets, but also other things we should do with caution in front of children. Well, on the other hand, I saw a lot of nonsense in my childhood, I often saw adults drinking alcohol, and smoking was common ... and probably it had a good effect on me, because I am indifferent to alcohol and do not smoke. So everything also depends on the upbringing of the child, how much he can distinguish things that should not be abused, as well as white from black. Probably there are cases when children saw their parents playing gambling and then they had nothing to eat, so when they grew up, they never touched gambling. But I think there are not very many such examples in fact.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on August 19, 2024, 11:56:05 AM

In whatever you do, don't allow your kids to emulate anything bad from you... Do I really need to recap? No!
Children are wonderful creatures with a more receptive brain than an adult... They learn so fast by how much they see - that's exactly why the kindergarten level would use physical objects, pictures and diagrams to teach them. Don't worry about the practice - you'll be shocked to your bones that these kids are always watching you...beware!

Basically, we realize that we should only do good things in front of our children and thus,if we shouldn't gamble in front of children then it can be assumed that gambling is bad. But somehow,there are still many people who rely on gambling as an income, despite the fact that gambling is bad. Therefore, gambling will only be good to do as a pleasure or just betting with ready money to lose.

Because anyway, if we assume that children are not allowed to gamble, because basically children also do not have a steady source of income and they will easily lose everything and then get depressed because they are unable to control their emotions and anger.

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Quote from: Wakate on August 20, 2024, 09:13:36 AM

It is good we understand some certain things when it comes to gambling. Gambling is not for everybody because their are so many responsibilities we need to note for us to make money from gambling and keeping ourselves safe from any addiction. Addiction can make us to gamble recklessly which could make us never to care where we are actually playing bets whether it's at the front it the children or anywhere. We all have to take the responsibility if anything goes wrong when gambling. The responsibility of keeping ourselves safe and every other persons around us so that would would not copy us and go and do the same thing we are doing just to make money for themselves without knowing the risks involved.

psychologically gamblers should know the negative impacts of gambling addiction. it makes no sense if we as gamblers end up passing on the habit to our children by often gambling in front of them.

there are groups of people in society who look down on gamblers. whether they are addicted or regular gamblers. to be honest, negative sentiments can affect not only us but also the people around us, especially those closest to us.

I think online gambling is currently quite helpful in hiding our activities from others, even from those closest to us. children are very curious. especially for those who are already teenagers, who have a high curiosity. before they are ready, it would be better if we hide our gambling activities from them.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 20, 2024, 04:23:52 AM

Btw, despite gambling, parents do all kind of activities that are inappropriate for underaged. Do you think kids really focus on all of them? Example. We dont let kids use sharp objects like knifes or scissors. The damage they can do with it is immediate (not just a possibility like gambling addiction). However they see us using them, but they dont focus on them, nor show a huge passion to use them. Moreover, if a kid is a girl, we even push or ask her to help to cook, to slice something and etc. We even teach them to use it when they are very young and give them toy kitchen as a toy to play with plastic knifes and etc. Then where is logic here? From very young age we teach them to use dangerous objects.

If we continue your thought, then children should simply be taught how to play gambling games correctly and benefit from it, similar to scissors used in everyday life or a knife used to cook dinner?

I would only add one condition: that children should look for/earn money for gambling on their own.

To succeed in any business, you need to start learning it from an early age. Look at any sports champion - they all do it from an early age. Therefore, to earn millions in gambling, you need to start doing it from childhood, to gain huge experience and develop skills.

P.S. Just in case, I am against children's gambling (children should not be allowed to those types of activities in which most adults are losers) and this is just a light joke.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 19, 2024, 12:31:59 PM

Quote from: LDL on August 19, 2024, 12:01:10 PM

One thing we need to keep in mind is that the children of today will determine the future of tomorrow. So we as Guardians cannot do anything that endangers our future generations. As guardians we must try to fulfill all the responsibilities we have. Unnecessarily they cannot do any criminal or prohibited activities in front of them. When family members participate in gambling in front of a child, they tend to focus on those forbidden activities and show self-control. If a child sees family members, it will definitely matter and will become a gambler unconsciously. Therefore, as much as possible, we should avoid gambling, drug addicts, violence, and other social crimes in front of children.

What a candid and articulated submission you've got there. I've said it on this thread before now that it's the responsibility of every adults to make sure kids are protected from consuming any sort of content that's exclusively made for adults because failure to do that is an easy way to endanger the lives of such kids.
For parents, it's advisable that you make sure you don't engage in any kind of activity that's detrimental the future of your kids of which gambling halo to be one of them.

It is good we understand some certain things when it comes to gambling. Gambling is not for everybody because their are so many responsibilities we need to note for us to make money from gambling and keeping ourselves safe from any addiction. Addiction can make us to gamble recklessly which could make us never to care where we are actually playing bets whether it's at the front it the children or anywhere. We all have to take the responsibility if anything goes wrong when gambling. The responsibility of keeping ourselves safe and every other persons around us so that would would not copy us and go and do the same thing we are doing just to make money for themselves without knowing the risks involved.

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Quote from: Odusko on August 19, 2024, 08:49:16 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 19, 2024, 08:40:15 AM

That kind of attentions will lead them to focus and be correctly oriented, guardians/parents needs to always think for the best of their childrens and have that sets of examples that will keep those young minds away from any harmed of things like gambling which can quickly pollute the minds of those kids who thinks that by following what they are seeing from adults that surrounds them will give them the satisfcations without knowing what harm can be done since they don't have any idea of what they are doing.

When it comes to Gambling and kids, my stands have always been that it is better to keep them away from knowing anything close to computer games at the early stage, this is to prevent them from getting anything close to mastering the act of gaming, because majority's of those that becomes active gambler's in the future are those kids that have the skills to play computer game's which apps are found on playstor where kids can download and play it at will on the iPad and the rest.
If this is taken out from kids until they are mature enough, before the parents themselves educate and introduce any sort of gambling to them, that time the mindset are mature enough to comprehend the message and also to decide accordely.

Yeah right, moving them away or not letting them to have that glimpse or any idea about gambling or any types of game that will allow them to explore more about technology, if you can limit them and allow them to spend time doing other things that will enhance their physical and mental capabilities, unlike if they've got that idea seeing you or watching you playing gambling in front them, while they've got that full access in the internet, time might come that you'll be surprise seeing them using your device and playing with those gambling games that might trigger you losing your money.

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Quote from: LDL on August 19, 2024, 12:01:10 PM

One thing we need to keep in mind is that the children of today will determine the future of tomorrow. So we as Guardians cannot do anything that endangers our future generations. As guardians we must try to fulfill all the responsibilities we have. Unnecessarily they cannot do any criminal or prohibited activities in front of them. When family members participate in gambling in front of a child, they tend to focus on those forbidden activities and show self-control. If a child sees family members, it will definitely matter and will become a gambler unconsciously. Therefore, as much as possible, we should avoid gambling, drug addicts, violence, and other social crimes in front of children.

If every parent wishes only good for his kid, only bright and positive future, and that has been for centuries, then how come we have bad people? At what point that "bad" sneaks between overprotection and total monitoring? Where is that moment when parenting fails?

Btw, despite gambling, parents do all kind of activities that are inappropriate for underaged. Do you think kids really focus on all of them? Example. We dont let kids use sharp objects like knifes or scissors. The damage they can do with it is immediate (not just a possibility like gambling addiction). However they see us using them, but they dont focus on them, nor show a huge passion to use them. Moreover, if a kid is a girl, we even push or ask her to help to cook, to slice something and etc. We even teach them to use it when they are very young and give them toy kitchen as a toy to play with plastic knifes and etc. Then where is logic here? From very young age we teach them to use dangerous objects.

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Quote from: LDL on August 19, 2024, 12:01:10 PM

One thing we need to keep in mind is that the children of today will determine the future of tomorrow. So we as Guardians cannot do anything that endangers our future generations. As guardians we must try to fulfill all the responsibilities we have. Unnecessarily they cannot do any criminal or prohibited activities in front of them. When family members participate in gambling in front of a child, they tend to focus on those forbidden activities and show self-control. If a child sees family members, it will definitely matter and will become a gambler unconsciously. Therefore, as much as possible, we should avoid gambling, drug addicts, violence, and other social crimes in front of children.

What a candid and articulated submission you've got there. I've said it on this thread before now that it's the responsibility of every adults to make sure kids are protected from consuming any sort of content that's exclusively made for adults because failure to do that is an easy way to endanger the lives of such kids.
For parents, it's advisable that you make sure you don't engage in any kind of activity that's detrimental the future of your kids of which gambling halo to be one of them.

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Quote from: hyudien on August 19, 2024, 06:19:44 AM

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When we forbid something without explaining it, then they will be curious about it, well usually they will find out for themselves why their parents forbade it and if they make the wrong move then they might become someone who is addicted. I understand that parents' love cannot be explained, they will want something good that their children can do.
A good step is to explain in as much detail as possible about gambling once they are ready to listen, what gambling is, what risks can be felt when gambling and so on. I am sure that if they are given an explanation like that they will also understand why it is better to avoid gambling, and even if they do gamble they will really understand the risks and they will be able to apply limits and such so that they gamble responsibly. In this day and age, it's useless to keep something a secret, especially if it's online-based, it will be easy for them to find out independently.

Growing kids is about teaching them to think, not imposing instructions. You cant just say "no" and expect it. The regulations' "why" must be explained. If you dont, they'll get interested and find a method behind your back. Gambling isnt pointless. A billion-dollar enterprise that entertain. They're masters at making you think you'll win big.

We must warn our kids about gambling's risks. Not only tell them its awful; demonstrate. The psychology, financial risk, and deadly effects of addiction should be explained. Teach children to make smart choices without you.

Today, information is all around. If we like it or not, they see everything. While we cant protect children, we can give them the tools to engage securely. We should tell our kids about gambling's risks. Lets promote critical thinking above mindless obedience

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One thing we need to keep in mind is that the children of today will determine the future of tomorrow. So we as Guardians cannot do anything that endangers our future generations. As guardians we must try to fulfill all the responsibilities we have. Unnecessarily they cannot do any criminal or prohibited activities in front of them. When family members participate in gambling in front of a child, they tend to focus on those forbidden activities and show self-control. If a child sees family members, it will definitely matter and will become a gambler unconsciously. Therefore, as much as possible, we should avoid gambling, drug addicts, violence, and other social crimes in front of children.

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In whatever you do, don't allow your kids to emulate anything bad from you... Do I really need to recap? No!
Children are wonderful creatures with a more receptive brain than an adult... They learn so fast by how much they see - that's exactly why the kindergarten level would use physical objects, pictures and diagrams to teach them. Don't worry about the practice - you'll be shocked to your bones that these kids are always watching you...beware!

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 17, 2024, 11:41:08 PM

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Whether a kid tells lies or not depends on his age and the consequences of telling the truth. You wouldn't expect a child not to lie if he will be punished for telling the truth. Parents and child relationships should be simple. Kids are easygoing when their parents are kind to them. Talking to kids about gambling is an acceptable practice for any parent.

The society consists of gamblers. To be safe, our kids require little education on gambling. Parents who do not engage their kids in gambling information are grooming their children to lie about their gambling activities in the future. such a kid wouldn't feel comfortable talking to his parents about his gambling habit, because he thinks punishment awaits him.

telling children about gambling and giving them a definite explanation can be done when they are old enough and already know the outside world, because when they are adults they will certainly now know about gambling which is often done by young people. so monitoring them is a must even though we can't do it all day long but we must still be aware of what habits are done by children and if they do know gambling then it is better to give an explanation about gambling so that they are not reckless in making decisions.

The goal is to be the first gambling adviser to your kid. It's riskier when the child begin to hear from other people what gambling is about. That could lead to the child lying about his gambling experience. And may not confide in his parent's idea if he has been directed towards making funds through gambling. Additionally, it's wrong to think that a child won't get in touch with gambling ads or conversations while on the phone or at school. Delaying the knowledge of gambling risk to a kid growing up could be detrimental in the future when he starts to gamble.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 19, 2024, 08:40:15 AM

That kind of attentions will lead them to focus and be correctly oriented, guardians/parents needs to always think for the best of their childrens and have that sets of examples that will keep those young minds away from any harmed of things like gambling which can quickly pollute the minds of those kids who thinks that by following what they are seeing from adults that surrounds them will give them the satisfcations without knowing what harm can be done since they don't have any idea of what they are doing.

When it comes to Gambling and kids, my stands have always been that it is better to keep them away from knowing anything close to computer games at the early stage, this is to prevent them from getting anything close to mastering the act of gaming, because majority's of those that becomes active gambler's in the future are those kids that have the skills to play computer game's which apps are found on playstor where kids can download and play it at will on the iPad and the rest.
If this is taken out from kids until they are mature enough, before the parents themselves educate and introduce any sort of gambling to them, that time the mindset are mature enough to comprehend the message and also to decide accordely.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 17, 2024, 04:10:06 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 15, 2024, 11:02:06 AM

Yeap, they are like sponge, but they dont consume everything they see. I wish they would copy me (and be as cool as me lol), but she is very shy with making new friends. Cant teach my girl that vegetables are better than sweets and snacks. Why, if I eat salad with meat all the time, she prefer french fries and maybe a tiny bite on the meat? Why I have to tell all the time to clean her room, even though we had order and clean other rooms? Why she likes to draw, even though nobody in our family draws. Anyway, you can do many thing in front of them, but you can never tell what your kid will be interested in in 5 or 10 years. And we here talk about far future like 20+ years…

You're right, and the best thing we can give them is the correct education, taking them down the path of sport, of culture, all of this is what we Should take the children to , it's not that we are going to exploit them, but we do have to appreciate all that culture, I tell my children to learn languages, especially Church, German, French, so that they are advanced beings and that they know how to defend themselves, not so much that they are professionals but that they use the best knowledge so that they can live a quiet and safe life, games of chance are now for Adults , and it will continue to be that way, that's why they have their own Games.

That kind of attentions will lead them to focus and be correctly oriented, guardians/parents needs to always think for the best of their childrens and have that sets of examples that will keep those young minds away from any harmed of things like gambling which can quickly pollute the minds of those kids who thinks that by following what they are seeing from adults that surrounds them will give them the satisfcations without knowing what harm can be done since they don't have any idea of what they are doing.

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