The only mistake Electrum developers did was to allow servers to send those messages. But that mistake was realized and rectified in version 3.3.3.
It sucks to lose your money, I am sure. But this is 99% your fault. Nothing anyone says here can change the fact that your funds are gone.
I have been properly using Electrum for a long time and never had any problems. I also use cold storage options for the crypto that is worth saving.
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Sorry for your loss, these darn phishers seem to be getting away with a lot of stolen funds D:
If I may, how much was lost?
If I may, how much was lost?
ok but my credit card has second security stage
And so do crypto exchanges, where many newbies store their coins. The whole point of bitcoin is to "be your own bank" and not have to rely on a third party to look after your coins for you. You have complete control over your own money, which is very powerful, but yes, also risky if you don't know what you are doing. If you weren't confident in your ability to securely hold your coins yourself, then you should either of spent more time reading and learning, or handed over your coins to someone else to look after on your behalf like you do with fiat and banks. I just wanted to say people who created electrum should be more responsible for security as bitcoin is not protected at all.
Bitcoin is far more secure than fiat, provided you use software properly and properly secure your wallets. If you download a program and then ignore instructions and use it incorrectly, I'm afraid the fault is with you, not the developers.
ok but my credit card has second security stage,limits etc and i never care about it althought never downloaded fake chromes. I just wanted to say people who created electrum should be more responsible for security as bitcoin is not protected at all. Everything looks very tricky, you open your old version programm, it asks for the upgrade, of course how you can suspicious about that if you are an ordinary user who check your wallet once in 2 years and never sitting on forums. All you write here is true but it works only for very attentive people sitting here
If you used Chrome to download a fake version of Chrome, installed it, opened it, used it for online shopping, and typed all your personal info and credit card details in to it, would it be Google's fault when your credit card gets cloned and used by someone else? If someone phones you up and tells you to transfer all your money to their bank account, and you do it, is it Apple's fault for providing you with a phone? The Electrum website quite clearly states right at the top "Do not download Electrum from another source than electrum.org, and learn to verify GPG signatures." If you ignore their clear instructions and do things they tell you not to do, then you can't hold them liable when things go wrong.
Software wallets, in particular mobile wallets, should never be considered truly safe anyway. If you wanted to protect your coins long term, then you should have invested in a hardware wallet or an airgapped machine.
Software wallets, in particular mobile wallets, should never be considered truly safe anyway. If you wanted to protect your coins long term, then you should have invested in a hardware wallet or an airgapped machine.
Of course it is electrum faullt, because software has holes. I opened original programm not fake and it adviced me to down load upgrade, my fault is only that i have not learnt all these information before.
A message from the electrum server you were connected to told you to update the software.
If you would have checked the link, you would have realized that it lead you to a fake website (or to github without any source code).
This, combined with the fact that you didn't verify the signature, lead to your funds being stolen by malware.
But how do i know if i open ORIGINAL SOFTWARE!?
As already mentioned, verify the signature before installing (as stated on the website).
Again, the software was installed very far before and would never use in future, the money was safe untill i open that programm
1) It was never very secured if you stored it on an online computer AND your mobile phone.
2) They got stolen once you downloaded and installed malware, electrum is not at fault.
Yes i understand my fault that i should check signatures , download directly from the site and other blablabla. But where is assurance that in new version of software will not happen the same shit. I think that is partly developers fault that we lose our money.
The developers are at fault that you have fallen for a phishing message ?
It is stated on the website (and on this forum and almost everywhere on the internet) that you need to verify the signature to make sure you are using the original software.
I am sorry to say, but only you are at fault. No one else.
Of course it is electrum faullt, because software has holes. I opened original programm not fake and it adviced me to down load upgrade, my fault is only that i have not learnt all these information before. But how do i know if i open ORIGINAL SOFTWARE!?
I am absoultely lost, it was all my earnings i accumulated , the sum is really big
So you were storing all of your coins on a wallet shared between your computer and your mobile phone ?
It seems you need to reconsider how you store your coins. Try to acquire knowledge regarding secure storage of sensitive information. This forum is a good place to do so.
If the sum was really big, why did you store it on a computer which is connected to the internet, shared with your mobile phone
Why no hardware- or paper wallet ?Again, the software was installed very far before and would never use in future, the money was safe untill i open that programm
who knows about that? 10% user who sitting on this forum? I am not a one ,try use google seach there are thousend victims!
Verifying the signature is common sense if you spend at least half an hour reading about securing funds.
I put m money on blockchaing and forgot about it , i am not sitting on forums
the same thing of course will not happen but the other one can happen easily. The product is raw and they are testing bugs by our money lost
Just read what the website says and follow. Verify the signature and don't click on any link you see. As easy as that.
Yes i understand my fault that i should check signatures , download directly from the site and other blablabla. But where is assurance that in new version of software will not happen the same shit. I think that is partly developers fault that we lose our money.
The developers are at fault that you have fallen for a phishing message ?
It is stated on the website (and on this forum and almost everywhere on the internet) that you need to verify the signature to make sure you are using the original software.
I am sorry to say, but only you are at fault. No one else.
I am absoultely lost, it was all my earnings i accumulated , the sum is really big
So you were storing all of your coins on a wallet shared between your computer and your mobile phone ?
It seems you need to reconsider how you store your coins. Try to acquire knowledge regarding secure storage of sensitive information. This forum is a good place to do so.
If the sum was really big, why did you store it on a computer which is connected to the internet, shared with your mobile phone
Why no hardware- or paper wallet ?who knows about that? 10% user who sitting on this forum? I am not a one ,try use google seach there are thousend victims!
Verifying the signature is common sense if you spend at least half an hour reading about securing funds.
the same thing of course will not happen but the other one can happen easily. The product is raw and they are testing bugs by our money lost
Just read what the website says and follow. Verify the signature and don't click on any link you see. As easy as that.
i always used apple app on my iphone, the thing was that i didn't know that electrum is still installed on my PC and linked to my wallet from the old times
That's not any better either.Actually, sharing the same seed on two insecure environments will just double risk your funds....
Just buy a hardware wallet, or study good security practices like making an airgapped computer (there are also risks involved if you make a mistake or ignore some security recommendations).
. I am absoultely lost, it was all my earnings i accumulated , the sum is really big, the main idea now is to kill somebody who involved
You know deep inside that you should have never left such a really big amount in a desktop wallet. That you should have bought a hardware wallet.
Desktop Wallets in your daily PC are just for a few bucks. Buy a ledger or a trezor and never lose money again.
i always used apple app on my iphone, the thing was that i didn't know that electrum is still installed on my PC and linked to my wallet from the old times
. I am absoultely lost, it was all my earnings i accumulated , the sum is really big, the main idea now is to kill somebody who involved
You know deep inside that you should have never left such a really big amount in a desktop wallet. That you should have bought a hardware wallet.
Desktop Wallets in your daily PC are just for a few bucks. Buy a ledger or a trezor and never lose money again.
who knows about that? 10% user who sitting on this forum? I am not a one ,try use google seach there are thousend victims!
I am aware of that. Still, all of these users are at fault for not using the common sense. If you had looked at your address bar, you would have noticed that you were not on the official website. Everything that involves money should be proceeded with extreme caution. Do you check if you are on the correct website when logging in into your bank account? That's basically the same.
But where is assurance that in new version of software will not happen the same shit.
The same thing won't happen again since it has been already fixed. Before the 3.3.3 update was released, Electrum had never notified users of available updates. You are the one at fault. No wallet is completely secure and bug-free.
who knows about that? 10% user who sitting on this forum? I am not a one ,try use google seach there are thousend victims!
the same thing of course will not happen but the other one can happen easily. The product is raw and they are testing bugs by our money lost
But where is assurance that in new version of software will not happen the same shit.
The same thing won't happen again since it has been already fixed. Before the 3.3.3 update was released, Electrum had never notified users of available updates. You are the one at fault. No wallet is completely secure and bug-free.
I have not used this wallet for years, i have alreay forgotten about it on my PC,at some moment i needed to pay some online service , it adviced me to pay via wallet and it showed up , the message occured with error then to uprgrade your old version, of course it is natural after to 2 years. Yes i understand my fault that i should check signatures , download directly from the site and other blablabla. But where is assurance that in new version of software will not happen the same shit. I think that is partly developers fault that we lose our money. I am absoultely lost, it was all my earnings i accumulated , the sum is really big, the main idea now is to kill somebody who involved
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