Topic: NEW 10XBTC Lotto: Draws every 5 minutes, 3 numbers to hit only, TRN technology! - page 2. (Read 2672 times)
July 24, 2015, 07:53:22 PM
CMIIW, the player has 0.1% chance to get 10x back, 1% chance to get 1x back and 98.9% chance to get nothing back. Why would anyone play here instead of a 1% edge dice site?
July 24, 2015, 07:50:39 PM
Its nice. I love the design and everything but honestly like others have said you really need to lower the min bet and have to increase the reward because its not really worth playing at these odds.
The 3rd party indepedant number generator is great but most people trust Provavly fair like on dice sites.
The 3rd party indepedant number generator is great but most people trust Provavly fair like on dice sites.
Thanks!, you have a pretty nice and successful site too!
We think TRN is perfect for our 5-min-draw lottery over PF since not many people around the world really understand it, on the other hand, TRN is simple and crystal clear, i agree that for other games PF is better.
We are minding options to address this opinions, it is clear to us now that min bet, difficulty and reward must change, the most difficult part is reward, as we have to come up with the funds to back it up and can take time, we are thinking in a 100X reward with 1BTC max bet, which we can raise soon.
July 24, 2015, 07:39:23 PM
Yeah, you need to write that and a place everyone will read
actually withdrawn are automatic or manual? have anyone earned something until now?
actually withdrawn are automatic or manual? have anyone earned something until now?
As there is no signup, there is no account in the system, also as each draw takes only 5 minutes, you immediately know if you are a winner or not in the CLAIMS page, if you are, your payment is processed manually as we use cold storage.
As the site is in beta since yesterday, currently we have 5 reimbursements and no winner yet. The idea is to tune up the site with people's input, which we sincerely thank
July 24, 2015, 06:04:51 PM
Its nice. I love the design and everything but honestly like others have said you really need to lower the min bet and have to increase the reward because its not really worth playing at these odds.
The 3rd party indepedant number generator is great but most people trust Provavly fair like on dice sites.
The 3rd party indepedant number generator is great but most people trust Provavly fair like on dice sites.
July 24, 2015, 05:24:10 PM
Yeah, you need to write that and a place everyone will read
actually withdrawn are automatic or manual? have anyone earned something until now?
actually withdrawn are automatic or manual? have anyone earned something until now?
July 24, 2015, 04:08:34 PM
I got a question... as i can see, when 1 min left, it disable you to pay the "buy button"... but if you click the number before reach 1min, you still can send money to the btc address and let the page open... how long it is valid on real?
If that happens your deposit will be run in the next draw, but one thing we must correct is that we should let the user know that such thing is going to happen
July 24, 2015, 11:03:01 AM
I got a question... as i can see, when 1 min left, it disable you to pay the "buy button"... but if you click the number before reach 1min, you still can send money to the btc address and let the page open... how long it is valid on real?
July 24, 2015, 10:59:49 AM
ive tried the free play, and got strike for 2 times, won like over 10 BTC 
so easy, not sure real or fake
so easy, not sure real or fakeNo fakes here, it is just that you start with a simulated 1BTC and then it is more probable to hit 10BTC, now, this Free Lotto does not uses the TRN, so is only random numbers from the server, which can naturally skew toward either side, maybe you just got lucky. I myself played and only won after like 100th time, but i did got many reimbursements.
July 24, 2015, 09:24:54 AM
First of all, thank you for all your inputs and views, we are considering them to fine tune 10xbtc
About TRN: True Random Number means that the randomness in a calculation of a number is taken from natural phenomena and not from a very complicated calculation inside a computer, to achieve this, a lot of equipment is needed that does deal directly with mother nature, fortunately, there is one space agency out there that has taken the trouble of doing this and puts this calculation for free and that updates every 5 minutes, which is a perfect time goal for fast lottery.
Checking the number is very easy, you just click the link in our site to the space agency's site and see if the last 3 numbers of the TRN are equal to the last 3 numbers in our site, period. Easy and clean. A more detailed explanation is here: http://10xbtc.com/#how
We are studying your comments and will came out with responses soon. We value your input so much!
About TRN: True Random Number means that the randomness in a calculation of a number is taken from natural phenomena and not from a very complicated calculation inside a computer, to achieve this, a lot of equipment is needed that does deal directly with mother nature, fortunately, there is one space agency out there that has taken the trouble of doing this and puts this calculation for free and that updates every 5 minutes, which is a perfect time goal for fast lottery.
Checking the number is very easy, you just click the link in our site to the space agency's site and see if the last 3 numbers of the TRN are equal to the last 3 numbers in our site, period. Easy and clean. A more detailed explanation is here: http://10xbtc.com/#how
We are studying your comments and will came out with responses soon. We value your input so much!
July 24, 2015, 01:28:12 AM
I think if you raised the payout amount, people would be more inclined to play. The house edge seems far too high. The government lottery house edge is high, but people still play because it's quite a bit of money the could potentially win. This is not the case here.
July 24, 2015, 12:49:43 AM
The problem is another here,even if its probably fair,the house edge is so high that they would probably get rich in no time,even if the bet was only 10k satoshi,after a days of tries they would have earned like 1 btc without doing nothing,and if the occasion you get a miracle to get 3 numbers straight,they still win because its only 10x pay
Ohh I get it: it's not even 3 separated numbers from 1000, it's a unique number. my bad.
Still, same stuff, 1 over 1000 is yes about over 90+% House Edge so it's a win situation for the owner.
I was gonna say: I'll hire a someone to make me a site where you guess 1 entire number over 500, if you get any 2 digits you get reimbursed, and if you hit it I'm gonna pay you 100x.
Ah! Still profit for me.
Ohh I get it: it's not even 3 separated numbers from 1000, it's a unique number. my bad.
Still, same stuff, 1 over 1000 is yes about over 90+% House Edge so it's a win situation for the owner.
I was gonna say: I'll hire a someone to make me a site where you guess 1 entire number over 500, if you get any 2 digits you get reimbursed, and if you hit it I'm gonna pay you 100x.
Ah! Still profit for me.
July 24, 2015, 12:39:27 AM
- HONESTY Above all: We use a 3rd party True Random Number generated from space and environmental variables from a foreign Space Agency from 3 satellites in orbit that re-generates every 5 minutes, we use the last 3 numbers of this TRN to play the lottery and you can check it online whenever you wish, so THERE IS NO CHEATING POSSIBLE
USe Provably fair or it is not fair at all.
We think that nothing beats TRN for clarity and instant checking, many people don't understand provably fair around the world, but with certified 3rd party TRN, is crystal clear [/list]
can you prove it, prove how clarity what you called TRN more than provably fair?
July 24, 2015, 12:32:37 AM
Considering this lotto easy its blasphemy.
1000 numbers, you need to guess 3, I'm bad at math,terribly bad, but for example here,finding 3 numbers over 20 drawn from 90 numbers is paid 50x, so I think 2 things, lower the amount, and then the payout should be like 9000x at least,if not more
Since I'm a bad in math I searched for the formula on the internet,and the chance of loosing is 99,7% so I guess that House Edge is likely close to that number?
1000 numbers, you need to guess 3, I'm bad at math,terribly bad, but for example here,finding 3 numbers over 20 drawn from 90 numbers is paid 50x, so I think 2 things, lower the amount, and then the payout should be like 9000x at least,if not more
Since I'm a bad in math I searched for the formula on the internet,and the chance of loosing is 99,7% so I guess that House Edge is likely close to that number?
July 24, 2015, 12:31:40 AM
ive tried the free play, and got strike for 2 times, won like over 10 BTC so easy, not sure real or fake
so easy, not sure real or fakeI have found in almost all the gambling sites which have a play money feature, that I win more when I play with play money than compared to when playing for real.
- HONESTY Above all: We use a 3rd party True Random Number generated from space and environmental variables from a foreign Space Agency from 3 satellites in orbit that re-generates every 5 minutes, we use the last 3 numbers of this TRN to play the lottery and you can check it online whenever you wish, so THERE IS NO CHEATING POSSIBLE
USe Provably fair or it is not fair at all.
We think that nothing beats TRN for clarity and instant checking, many people don't understand provably fair around the world, but with certified 3rd party TRN, is crystal clear [/list]
How can a user verify that the result of their bet was derived from a TRN?
July 23, 2015, 10:13:32 PM
ive tried the free play, and got strike for 2 times, won like over 10 BTC so easy, not sure real or fake
so easy, not sure real or fake 
July 23, 2015, 08:11:04 PM
lol, actually there's some think little wrong in your math... normaly House take arround 1-5% from lottery...
well... considering you have 1/1000 probably to win..., considering ( -100 for hit last 2 number)... arround 1/900... so the payout if you hit it should be 900x, not 10x lol
actually your game is like 98% House Edge '-'
well... considering you have 1/1000 probably to win..., considering ( -100 for hit last 2 number)... arround 1/900... so the payout if you hit it should be 900x, not 10x lol
actually your game is like 98% House Edge '-'
I was thinking exactly this. The chance to win is too small to play the game. I might play if I could use dust, but then it would not be fun for the site owner
Maybe, another game with a better chance to win might be more popular?
July 23, 2015, 07:45:51 PM
lol, actually there's some think little wrong in your math... normaly House take arround 1-5% from lottery...
well... considering you have 1/1000 probably to win..., considering ( -100 for hit last 2 number)... arround 1/900... so the payout if you hit it should be 900x, not 10x lol
actually your game is like 98% House Edge '-'
well... considering you have 1/1000 probably to win..., considering ( -100 for hit last 2 number)... arround 1/900... so the payout if you hit it should be 900x, not 10x lol
actually your game is like 98% House Edge '-'
July 23, 2015, 07:37:44 PM
- HONESTY Above all: We use a 3rd party True Random Number generated from space and environmental variables from a foreign Space Agency from 3 satellites in orbit that re-generates every 5 minutes, we use the last 3 numbers of this TRN to play the lottery and you can check it online whenever you wish, so THERE IS NO CHEATING POSSIBLE
USe Provably fair or it is not fair at all.
We think that nothing beats TRN for clarity and instant checking, many people don't understand provably fair around the world, but with certified 3rd party TRN, is crystal clear [/list]
July 23, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
minimum bet is too high for a little chance of winning 
Thanks for you input, which amount would you play for?, do you think that a 3 number hit is a little chance?
July 23, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
- HONESTY Above all: We use a 3rd party True Random Number generated from space and environmental variables from a foreign Space Agency from 3 satellites in orbit that re-generates every 5 minutes, we use the last 3 numbers of this TRN to play the lottery and you can check it online whenever you wish, so THERE IS NO CHEATING POSSIBLE
USe Provably fair or it is not fair at all.
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