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Topic: New auction for 50000 btc from US marshalls! - page 2. (Read 5806 times)

sr. member
Activity: 328
Merit: 250
February 21, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
#64
I really still think it was somewhat sketchy to sell the BTC. They wouldn't sell the 100$ bills they get from some drug raid for discounted rates, wouldn't they?
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
February 21, 2015, 02:13:10 PM
#63
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2015/dpr-february-auction/

Have they finally emptied their cache?

Wish this causes a trend reversal



How is it they come to the decision to sell at these prices, seems like nobody has a brain over there.  Or perhaps no single person has the power to make sale date decisions.

Its mostly people who fair the price of bitcoin to crash. And if they think of that, they see losing money and probably dump and get out.

But unfortunately, it goes up instead and they regret it the next day .

You'd think they'd have some top techincal analysis traders viewing the data though, the market is tricky to predict for anyone but a few seem to get it right more often then not.

Before the first auction someone made the point that the US was selling because they thought the price would go down in the long run. It's considerably lower now than before either of the last two auctions. The US might be selling now because they still hold the same view.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057
Marketing manager - GO MP
February 21, 2015, 01:56:44 PM
#62
They don't really care about selling for a good price, they are just liquidating the assets from the seizure like with anything else. And that is probably done according to a time table that is dictated by internal proceedings, not the market. So they would auction the Bitcoins now if they were a million dollars or just a nickel.
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
February 21, 2015, 01:45:48 PM
#61
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2015/dpr-february-auction/

Have they finally emptied their cache?

Wish this causes a trend reversal



How is it they come to the decision to sell at these prices, seems like nobody has a brain over there.  Or perhaps no single person has the power to make sale date decisions.

Its mostly people who fair the price of bitcoin to crash. And if they think of that, they see losing money and probably dump and get out.

But unfortunately, it goes up instead and they regret it the next day .

You'd think they'd have some top techincal analysis traders viewing the data though, the market is tricky to predict for anyone but a few seem to get it right more often then not.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254
February 21, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
#60
^Market price during the first auction > market price during the second auction > market price now.
Only possible regret: "Why didn't we sell this bag earlier?! Sad "
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
February 21, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
#59
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2015/dpr-february-auction/

Have they finally emptied their cache?

Wish this causes a trend reversal



How is it they come to the decision to sell at these prices, seems like nobody has a brain over there.  Or perhaps no single person has the power to make sale date decisions.

Its mostly people who fair the price of bitcoin to crash. And if they think of that, they see losing money and probably dump and get out.

But unfortunately, it goes up instead and they regret it the next day .
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254
February 21, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
#58
...
How is it they come to the decision to sell at these prices, seems like nobody has a brain over there...

They're doing OK.
Yeah, the market price is shittier than it was during the previous auction, and back then it was shittier than during the first one, but hey, hindsight, amirite?  Besides, the BTC is just bonus--Bitcoiners crowdfunded DPR's investigation/pwnage.
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
February 21, 2015, 11:42:54 AM
#57
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2015/dpr-february-auction/

Have they finally emptied their cache?

Wish this causes a trend reversal



How is it they come to the decision to sell at these prices, seems like nobody has a brain over there.  Or perhaps no single person has the power to make sale date decisions.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254
February 21, 2015, 10:45:53 AM
#56
...(like buying a block of IP addresses for an ISP business)...

Not how it works.  https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four2
sr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 252
February 21, 2015, 10:37:38 AM
#55
I wouldn't give too much attention to the auctions affecting exchange prices.  If (IF) I were a capable wannabe large holder, then I'd offer something close to market value, or maybe a little more to avoid screwing with the markets, as it would be BTC I'd be interested in rather than USD in that scenario, and just want the least damage to my FIAT wallet as possible.

Nothing is being created or destroyed, just reassigned.

If my future intentions were to have a company that used the blockchain for some purpose other than money, then I'd need to hold a certain amount of coins or sub-units to make transactions happen (like buying a block of IP addresses for an ISP business).  There's only so many, and if widely adopted (which is our gamble) then those finite units could have value in many ways other than just USD equival.

I think what I'm trying to say is that not everyone here is looking at this just as a FIAT gaining exercise.  Sure a good trader will have opportunity if they still have both feet in the FIAT world and want to trade for USD profit, but some people here have decided to cut that tether, or have a foot in both camps for the near term to watch how it would unfold.
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1028
Duelbits.com
February 21, 2015, 08:10:57 AM
#54
Remember back in last summer, the Bitcoin raised up to 650$ after the auction, so, what about this time?

Actually, back then the Bitcoins were auctioned at a premium, compared to the market rate. That was the sole reason behind the Bitcoin rally then. Let's wait and watch what happens this time.

One man brought all the coins auctioned in the first auction and announced he was holding them all rather than selling. That's why we had a rally afterwards. There were many winners of lots in the second auction and I guess they dumped because there was crash after crash afterwards.

We did not have rally after it, we were in 600s when first auction was announced. Then chopping around that without idea how auction will play and then got dump few days after.
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
February 21, 2015, 06:22:21 AM
#53

Okay to tell you really i have never been in all this mining and trading stuff much and started trading just some months ago
So we can add public notes to other people's address Huh
As what i understand , someone sent them a small transaction with that note , and thus it was left there but how is the guy getting any help of it ?


You can add a note to your transaction to that address. It'll gradually fall away if other transactions arrive. I guess he hopes someone will spot it and send huge amounts of BTC. It's worth a few satoshis if you're lazy and hopeful.

Some of the big addresses have some entertaining death threats too.

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you
Date Registered:   October 07, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
I hope the account wasn't too expensive

Don't worry i didn't bought it !
As i said , i wasn't much interested in this stuff before , and was just using it sometimes , not that i have left my job and sitting here searching for a new job , i got lil the time on my hands.
So though i am hero member but i got knowledge of that of newbie , i can even sign it with my address if someone can teach me how to do it Smiley

Download the multibit bitcoin wallet and use the instructions linked below to add a note to your transaction.

https://multibit.org/en/help/v0.5/help_signAndVerifyMessage.html
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1007
Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets
February 21, 2015, 01:17:32 AM
#52

Okay to tell you really i have never been in all this mining and trading stuff much and started trading just some months ago
So we can add public notes to other people's address Huh
As what i understand , someone sent them a small transaction with that note , and thus it was left there but how is the guy getting any help of it ?


You can add a note to your transaction to that address. It'll gradually fall away if other transactions arrive. I guess he hopes someone will spot it and send huge amounts of BTC. It's worth a few satoshis if you're lazy and hopeful.

Some of the big addresses have some entertaining death threats too.

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you
Date Registered:   October 07, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
I hope the account wasn't too expensive

Don't worry i didn't bought it !
As i said , i wasn't much interested in this stuff before , and was just using it sometimes , not that i have left my job and sitting here searching for a new job , i got lil the time on my hands.
So though i am hero member but i got knowledge of that of newbie , i can even sign it with my address if someone can teach me how to do it Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 290
Merit: 250
February 20, 2015, 06:07:36 PM
#51

Okay to tell you really i have never been in all this mining and trading stuff much and started trading just some months ago
So we can add public notes to other people's address Huh
As what i understand , someone sent them a small transaction with that note , and thus it was left there but how is the guy getting any help of it ?


You can add a note to your transaction to that address. It'll gradually fall away if other transactions arrive. I guess he hopes someone will spot it and send huge amounts of BTC. It's worth a few satoshis if you're lazy and hopeful.

Some of the big addresses have some entertaining death threats too.

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you
Date Registered:   October 07, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
I hope the account wasn't too expensive
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 1031
February 20, 2015, 05:43:05 PM
#50
Okay i get that about
https://blockchain.info/address/1HELPMEWinQPNsYmbJU2siyKUCEZaNYj7j

But why
https://blockchain.info/address/12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix
and
https://blockchain.info/address/1CaGxqCQv2ofqLf37HCUQoLujzRMaz74LK

They are as i know USmarshall auction cold wallets , why do they have that note and people are sending money to it Huh

The message is added in the incoming transaction, US Marshals have no control over that.

You can see the transaction here:

https://blockchain.info/tx/4429090838f3c3585a0496a6ee427e4ad18ace787d58440d7ebd2b190a82e06b

1HELPMEWinQPNsYmbJU2siyKUCEZaNYj7j is the sending address, US Marshals 12pCPrWvudnefJCtXQUBcm9z2NogtC3Rix the receiving address.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
February 20, 2015, 02:52:20 PM
#49

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you


Yes. I guess that's the idea.

That's totally stupid idea
Thanks for clarifying it to me Smiley

It only takes one stupid person to respond.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1007
Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets
February 20, 2015, 02:50:57 PM
#48

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you


Yes. I guess that's the idea.

That's totally stupid idea
Thanks for clarifying it to me Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
February 20, 2015, 02:49:13 PM
#47

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you


Yes. I guess that's the idea.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1007
Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets
February 20, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
#46

Okay to tell you really i have never been in all this mining and trading stuff much and started trading just some months ago
So we can add public notes to other people's address Huh
As what i understand , someone sent them a small transaction with that note , and thus it was left there but how is the guy getting any help of it ?


You can add a note to your transaction to that address. It'll gradually fall away if other transactions arrive. I guess he hopes someone will spot it and send huge amounts of BTC. It's worth a few satoshis if you're lazy and hopeful.

Some of the big addresses have some entertaining death threats too.

Okay i can atleast search how to do it
But he is sending it to them in hope , they send him some after seeing the help he needs or is it possible that other people are seeing it and he is expecting other people to send him after seeing him in need ?
Thank you
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
February 20, 2015, 02:45:34 PM
#45

Okay to tell you really i have never been in all this mining and trading stuff much and started trading just some months ago
So we can add public notes to other people's address Huh
As what i understand , someone sent them a small transaction with that note , and thus it was left there but how is the guy getting any help of it ?


You can add a note to your transaction to that address. It'll gradually fall away if other transactions arrive. I guess he hopes someone will spot it and send huge amounts of BTC. It's worth a few satoshis if you're lazy and hopeful.

Some of the big addresses have some entertaining death threats too.
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