I'm pretty pissed I got two D3's (November batch) instead of Baikal Giant+'s. I sold my D3's on Ebay immediately I received them and have ordered two Baikal Gaints X10's instead. I'll never buy a miner that mines one algo again.
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To be fair the Biakal Giant+ is still making 10.18 USD a day or 232.23 USD monthly profit, whereas the Antminer D3 at 19.3Ghs is rapidly going down, now only making 2.52 USD or 75.33 USD monthly. As of 19/11/2017
I'm pretty pissed I got two D3's (November batch) instead of Baikal Giant+'s. I sold my D3's on Ebay immediately I received them and have ordered two Baikal Gaints X10's instead. I'll never buy a miner that mines one algo again.
I'm pretty pissed I got two D3's (November batch) instead of Baikal Giant+'s. I sold my D3's on Ebay immediately I received them and have ordered two Baikal Gaints X10's instead. I'll never buy a miner that mines one algo again.
Has any A2000 owner had trouble with the terminal not responding to any typing?
Baikal realizes that their production output has been trounced by the market competition. They therefore are negotaiting price push to keep the asic profitability up. But they are getting squeezed as the market is moving faster than they can output.
I have a Giant+ A2000. It seems to be rewarding a little low even though the hash rate pegs at 3.5gh/s. The device is rated at 2000mh/s.
It was mining X14 but when all the blocks confirmed the reward activity would shut down to zero while the device was thrashing away mining something, I am not sure.
This happened twice. The last time the device got stuck in the initialization mode. So I rebooted it and removed the x14 from the mining list.
The x11 activity is there but like I mentioned that rate is really slow. And the date is September 28, 2017 so maybe the mining market is gone at this level of device hash rate.
I am pondering putting this device back on the market for $4800usd.
Back to the x14 reference. It is Berncash.
I have a Giant+ A2000. It seems to be rewarding a little low even though the hash rate pegs at 3.5gh/s. The device is rated at 2000mh/s.
It was mining X14 but when all the blocks confirmed the reward activity would shut down to zero while the device was thrashing away mining something, I am not sure.
This happened twice. The last time the device got stuck in the initialization mode. So I rebooted it and removed the x14 from the mining list.
The x11 activity is there but like I mentioned that rate is really slow. And the date is September 28, 2017 so maybe the mining market is gone at this level of device hash rate.
I am pondering putting this device back on the market for $4800usd.
Back to the x14 reference. It is Berncash.
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They should just put them on ebay with a 3 day auction
HI everyone.
We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.
Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.
Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.
We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.
I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.
@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us.
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see
We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.
Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.
Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.
We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.
I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.
@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us.
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see
Other miner companies allow you to order completely on the website. Your process is NOT easy.
Also, many folks don't have Skype, and I suspect I'm not the only one that isn't even sure what Skype is supposed to be.
Quotes via email is a large part of the ISSUE with your company, along with the LONG DELAYS caused by having any part of the order process be via email.
I'd recommend taking a good hard look at sites like Bitmain and Newegg for online ordering done right.
You do need to adjust your pricing a LOT, now that you have competition again - unless you want your miner to stop selling except perhaps to the VERY SMALL number of non-X11 miners it supports.
Keep in mind what happened to SFARDS and their "dual-miner" - wasn't very competative even when it shipped vs. Bitmain on SHA256, and the cost was way too high for it to sell based on it's Scrypt capabilities.
HI everyone.
We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.
Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.
Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.
We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.
I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.
@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us.
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see
We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.
Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.
Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.
We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.
I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.
@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us.
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see
Other miner companies allow you to order completely on the website. Your process is NOT easy.
Also, many folks don't have Skype, and I suspect I'm not the only one that isn't even sure what Skype is supposed to be.
Quotes via email is a large part of the ISSUE with your company, along with the LONG DELAYS caused by having any part of the order process be via email.
I'd recommend taking a good hard look at sites like Bitmain and Newegg for online ordering done right.
You do need to adjust your pricing a LOT, now that you have competition again - unless you want your miner to stop selling except perhaps to the VERY SMALL number of non-X11 miners it supports.
Keep in mind what happened to SFARDS and their "dual-miner" - wasn't very competative even when it shipped vs. Bitmain on SHA256, and the cost was way too high for it to sell based on it's Scrypt capabilities.
i think you're a baikal employee. 
you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?
you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?Of course, I paid for the miners. I have proof.
I m not a Baikal employee. I live in Turkey. Check my posts. I also have 5 GPU rigs with 21 GPUs. And I have used bitmain S7 and S9 miners before.
Baikal should either increase the Megahash capacity to 30 GHs or reduce the price to $1000 so the miners can buy its stock immediately.
6 x Baikal @ 2000 Mhs = 12000 Mhs
Price x 6 Baikals $6000
If they ship immediately its a good deal for the miners and for them.
i think you're a baikal employee. you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?
you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?Of course, I paid for the miners. I have proof.
I m not a Baikal employee. I live in Turkey. Check my posts. I also have 5 GPU rigs with 21 GPUs. And I have used bitmain S7 and S9 miners before.
We will see what will happen when the other ASIC device manufacturer release their X11 miner. Please dont think Baikal miners only for X11. It mines on different algos.
Some Examples:
Digibyte on Qubit
Geocoin on Qubit
Quark on Quark
MonetaryUnit on Quark (now on X11)
Everyone remember Digibyte pump ? or MUE pump ?
Some Examples:
Digibyte on Qubit
Geocoin on Qubit
Quark on Quark
MonetaryUnit on Quark (now on X11)
Everyone remember Digibyte pump ? or MUE pump ?
Never heard OF MUE before your post.
DGB even when it was pumped couldn't asorb a lot of hashrate - my small *5 total units one an 88 Mhs* A2 farm at one point was 1% of the TOTAL NETWORK HASHRATE for DGB-Scrypt and I managed almost 2% for a few hours at one point on the Groetsl option with PART of my GPU farm - and I'm NOT running a big farm.
It will take a while for the Baikal to drop enough on X11 profitability that they'll get driven elsewhere, but the profitability of the other algos they mine are going to drop FAST when they do start having to find new homes as NONE of them have a large total hashrate due to how small the coins on them are.
HI everyone.
We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.
Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.
Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.
We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.
I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.
@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us.
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see
We are sorry for didn't come to clarify our new process for purchasing before, just too busy recently.
Current ordering process: (actually is very easy)
- Any questions regarding shipment, payment, operation question and pcice, we will offer response through our Skype.
- Final quotation, payment details will be provided through official email([email protected])
So just shoot your questions to our skype first.
Why we use Skype for communicating:
We admit we don't have many market skill..but we are trying. Considering of previous sale on Cube/quad-cube, too many customers fail to order due to our delayed reply, we are sorry for that. So this time, we deceided to move our customers who have quetsions need to check before ordering to our skype, so for a fast and timely communication. make sure each customer will get a fast answer.
Why we use Email quoting:
Gathered all feedbacks about security issue. we deceide to use official email for final quotation. So, just make sure the final quotation you get is from our official email, then you are in safe and right road. this is all for the security of customers payment.
We are still young in this industry, but we are learning and sure will be better in the future.
I will also make response on the OVERPRICED COMMENTS outside here:
1) we have been always selling goods in stock, this can ensure all of you a SAFE and ACCURATE shipment date. Future goods and spot goods have big difference.
2) people might now just take our X11 algorithm as standard to compare. X11 is just one of our six algorithms. offer some of your attention to other algorithms, you may find a same or even better profit.
@igotek
Thanks very much for your reviews and your comments on us.
May I ask could you do me a favor if you can pasted my statement of process steps to your original post. that helps more people to see
Other miner companies allow you to order completely on the website. Your process is NOT easy.
Also, many folks don't have Skype, and I suspect I'm not the only one that isn't even sure what Skype is supposed to be.
Quotes via email is a large part of the ISSUE with your company, along with the LONG DELAYS caused by having any part of the order process be via email.
I'd recommend taking a good hard look at sites like Bitmain and Newegg for online ordering done right.
You do need to adjust your pricing a LOT, now that you have competition again - unless you want your miner to stop selling except perhaps to the VERY SMALL number of non-X11 miners it supports.
Keep in mind what happened to SFARDS and their "dual-miner" - wasn't very competative even when it shipped vs. Bitmain on SHA256, and the cost was way too high for it to sell based on it's Scrypt capabilities.
Do you think D3 will be reliable as its first batch and probably they are working on a prototype now (as no photo was released and just l3 photo was placed)
Nobody knows, Bitmain has very high variance in terms of batch reliability so it may be true that the first batch is unreliable and they tweak it throughout later batches. Seems like they are in early stages of development atm with the L3 photos but they may use the same chassis for the miner. Fingers crossed they didn't rush development and they've just now decided to shoot the gun. I suspect the D3 first batch or two will have issues. I've also not been impressed with ANYTHING Bitmain has done since the S5 on a longevity standpoint.
wow..........does baikal really influence bitcointalk. Now my messages are getting deleted for what reason or what pretext or it it for a neutral anlylsis i gave which baikal don't like?
Atleast justify it to the community
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This is a shit show. Innosilicon is keeping sale open for days at least until 7/25/ so im sure they will be assembling units after sale is done. How many units will they be shipping in batch 1 ? Never seen a pre order that is kept open for days like this. Price is so high with unlimited availability until 7/25 ? Can they keep this on schedule for October delivery if they cant and shipping is delayed Ibelink and Bitmain will already be raising difficulty on network by the time Innosilicon start shipping. Also what if Biakal or Pineda announce something bigger lets say 45-60 ghs
Murphy's law. If anything can go wrong, it will
My fears exactly. I really want to order these, but it's hard to pull the trigger on something so expensive with a 2 month pre-order wait period (at least) without a definite shipping date to look forward to. The 'give us your money, now get in line and like it' mentality of these ASIC companies is irritating.
i agree, pre-orders should have a shipping date of no more than 15 days at maximum.
Atleast justify it to the community
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This is a shit show. Innosilicon is keeping sale open for days at least until 7/25/ so im sure they will be assembling units after sale is done. How many units will they be shipping in batch 1 ? Never seen a pre order that is kept open for days like this. Price is so high with unlimited availability until 7/25 ? Can they keep this on schedule for October delivery if they cant and shipping is delayed Ibelink and Bitmain will already be raising difficulty on network by the time Innosilicon start shipping. Also what if Biakal or Pineda announce something bigger lets say 45-60 ghs
Murphy's law. If anything can go wrong, it will
My fears exactly. I really want to order these, but it's hard to pull the trigger on something so expensive with a 2 month pre-order wait period (at least) without a definite shipping date to look forward to. The 'give us your money, now get in line and like it' mentality of these ASIC companies is irritating.
i agree, pre-orders should have a shipping date of no more than 15 days at maximum.
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Sorry Baikal 2000 mhs for 7k is just not going to ROI at this point . hashing at 2000 mhs now and have been watching my returns go lower and lower and lower. So my advise to anyone considering a Giant A+ 2000 mhs at 7k is just dont do it. Right now at 2000 mhs making only $29.00 per day meaning it will take 250 days to ROI, but this is now b4 Ibelink 10.8 ghs hits in 8/10 and b4 bitmain and innosilicon also push out 15 ghs and 30 ghs per miner. So where is predicted ROI for 2000 mhs ? Its not a good future for these under powered miners unless you start mining other alt coins. For hobby its ok for 7 k its no way ok.
agreed
Why is my posted removed why i just agreed to another members analysis ?
Thats strange to see that vendors like Baikal are having influence over bitcointalk.org legandary forum?
Are they seriously asking for 7k? for 2Gh/s? If thats the case Baikals greed knows no bound...
Yes they are, where in the worth is no more than $1000 to $1500 or at max $2000
Are they seriously asking for 7k? for 2Gh/s? If thats the case Baikals greed knows no bound...
I understand, but small miners united can make difference.
Sorry Baikal 2000 mhs for 7k is just not going to ROI at this point . hashing at 2000 mhs now and have been watching my returns go lower and lower and lower. So my advise to anyone considering a Giant A+ 2000 mhs at 7k is just dont do it. Right now at 2000 mhs making only $29.00 per day meaning it will take 250 days to ROI, but this is now b4 Ibelink 10.8 ghs hits in 8/10 and b4 bitmain and innosilicon also push out 15 ghs and 30 ghs per miner. So where is predicted ROI for 2000 mhs ? Its not a good future for these under powered miners unless you start mining other alt coins. For hobby its ok for 7 k its no way ok. Baikal next time dont hoard miners and sell to all customers not just your vendors this has turned badly for Baikal.
Even at current diff. it'll take more than a year to pay the thing off, all the while the diff. is rising and ROI gets longer and longer. Not worth the money.
i can't get my head around how fast things move in the asic market. a new asic comes out and bang almost straight away it's not profitable anymore. crazy. then someone else releases a much more powerful version and the same thing happens. will this not kill mining in the long run?
The same thing happened to bitcoin. It pushes hobbyists out of the marketplace for mining, but doesn't kill mining itself because there's still profit to be made in large farm mining.
i think you're a baikal employee. you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?
you almost open half of all the baikal topics in the forum. do they pay you for it?
i can't get my head around how fast things move in the asic market. a new asic comes out and bang almost straight away it's not profitable anymore. crazy. then someone else releases a much more powerful version and the same thing happens. will this not kill mining in the long run?
Sorry Baikal 2000 mhs for 7k is just not going to ROI at this point . hashing at 2000 mhs now and have been watching my returns go lower and lower and lower. So my advise to anyone considering a Giant A+ 2000 mhs at 7k is just dont do it. Right now at 2000 mhs making only $29.00 per day meaning it will take 250 days to ROI, but this is now b4 Ibelink 10.8 ghs hits in 8/10 and b4 bitmain and innosilicon also push out 15 ghs and 30 ghs per miner. So where is predicted ROI for 2000 mhs ? Its not a good future for these under powered miners unless you start mining other alt coins. For hobby its ok for 7 k its no way ok. Baikal next time dont hoard miners and sell to all customers not just your vendors this has turned badly for Baikal.
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