New Bitcoin mixer btcshaker.com mix your coins with integrity.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on August 18, 2019, 12:44:25 AM

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Get cleanest coins from European, Asian and North American cryptocurrency stock exchanges

So why people's need to use your mixer? They could change it directly from them.

Well, most of these exchanges probably require KYC, so that isn't going to work. But also most of these exchanges (All) definitely keep logs, so this mixing what he's offering doesn't work at all.

Deposit adress A of customer -> Withdraw adress B frome exchange "clean" funds, but logged. You'll receive clean funds but they're associated with the mixer's account on the exchange and so they could still be seen as dirty (and if the mixer operator is stupid, could even be linked back to deposit adress A).

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Although this mixing website would give good service for few days but I believe they would skip with huge amount of money. Personally I don't trust that mixing website and I will not encourage to use it. Who know when they will skip with funds.

Sure. There is no way they could operate like this on big exchanges that require KYC. Their account would be disabled within days.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 05:31:17 PM

Since crypto mixing service is one of the sensitive services we are dealing with, we need to see a big company offering or handling it.

I don't think that big company are going to handle it, they wouldn't want to put risk right now. And bitcoin mixer is supposed to help us on our anonymity so I doubt that companies would like to exposed themselves in this business.

Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 05:31:17 PM

This business is not an ordinary business. Before trusting a mixing service, you need to share every inch of the possible detail that is allowed to be shared in the public. You will not just make a short introductory post because it will raise lots of questions. Aside from that, the support or any representative here should be active as always to answer queries.

And that is why there's a lot of red flags about this supposedly new mixing services. All successful mixers like Chipmixer are very active here from the time they engage themselves in this kind of business. If some random guy posted here and points to a new mixing service and then disappear it more likely to pull a exit scam.

Well, it depends I guess. If we see a big company that is able to avoid the rules and legislation, that'll be ideal, but usually, most big companies already have all the legal work done (kyc, anti-aml, etc), and if they ran a BTC mixer, it'll either be useless, or it'll get taken down by the authorities.

Mixers are honestly in a good place right now, we see established options out there, and some smaller ones popping up. Legislation already cracked down on 2 mixers, and the ones that are alive right now look to be alive for a long time

Quote from: Stedsm on August 16, 2019, 06:27:48 PM

Hey scammer, I've got a proposal for you.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/breaking-mixing-services-5117328
Watch this thread, even some of best of the best type of mixers got defeated by this guy as he was able to break these services and deanonymize almost every transaction out there. If you can prove that your "jambler" has got the strength to stop him, I'd happily send you 2 cents out of my own pocket.

I doubt it's a real mixer - they say they do their mixing services via exchanges, which is one of the weirdest statements I've ever heard.

I'd still want to know what you mean by mixing via exchanges. I'm very interested in it.

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Bitcoin Mixer 2.0
Get cleanest coins from European, Asian and North American cryptocurrency stock exchanges

So why people's need to use your mixer? They could change it directly from them.

Although this mixing website would give good service for few days but I believe they would skip with huge amount of money. Personally I don't trust that mixing website and I will not encourage to use it. Who know when they will skip with funds.

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So you 'mix' through Bitcoin exchanges.

You're a totally unknown third party using another third party who will be massively clued up on dodgy coins.

If my coins started off clean what advantage is there in using this service rather than using an exchange directly?

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Hey scammer, I've got a proposal for you.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/breaking-mixing-services-5117328
Watch this thread, even some of best of the best type of mixers got defeated by this guy as he was able to break these services and deanonymize almost every transaction out there. If you can prove that your "jambler" has got the strength to stop him, I'd happily send you 2 cents out of my own pocket.

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This is a scam, they don't provide any mixing algorithm or any information about the mixing process, and the worst part is they don't provide any funds to make the mixing, so, my recommendation is to stay away from this business and if if you want to mix you coins use a know service for this.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 05:31:17 PM

Since crypto mixing service is one of the sensitive services we are dealing with, we need to see a big company offering or handling it.

I don't think that big company are going to handle it, they wouldn't want to put risk right now. And bitcoin mixer is supposed to help us on our anonymity so I doubt that companies would like to exposed themselves in this business.

Quote from: goinmerry on August 12, 2019, 05:31:17 PM

This business is not an ordinary business. Before trusting a mixing service, you need to share every inch of the possible detail that is allowed to be shared in the public. You will not just make a short introductory post because it will raise lots of questions. Aside from that, the support or any representative here should be active as always to answer queries.

And that is why there's a lot of red flags about this supposedly new mixing services. All successful mixers like Chipmixer are very active here from the time they engage themselves in this kind of business. If some random guy posted here and points to a new mixing service and then disappear it more likely to pull a exit scam.

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Quote from: TryNinja on August 12, 2019, 05:11:39 PM

Quote from: timerland on August 12, 2019, 04:39:56 PM

This is quite a spectacle. Possibly one of the most poorly structured sites I've seen in a long time, and other than that, there are a lot of holes about the "service" you are offering here.

It just seems some half-arsed web developer saw some large mixers got shut down and then saw a way to profit off new customers by scamming them.

Quote from: legendster on August 12, 2019, 05:04:00 PM

Yeah, I agree with the general consensus here, sites like these should be avoided. And the OP seems to have disappeared as well. Newbie account, first post, what do you expect?

So far the only reputable mixing site that I can think of is Chipmixer. It has done well over the years to stay on top of the game and clean of any BS drama (like Bestmixer).

Looks like they are just using /]Jambler's code and template[1]. I'm not sure how this works, but there are many mixers like this where they look exactly the same. Here is a list (there are """known""" mixers there as well, like MixTum): https://[banned mixer]/mix-coins.php

Basically anyone can create a mixer, call it "the best mixer", claim that it's using a high level algorithm that uses satoshi's owns coins and investor's funds from more than 200 countries to make it clean or some stuff like this.

Ah. I figured it was some template off WordPress or another site. It has the look and feel of an old mixer I used once to test (forgot the exact one).

How much does this template cost to use? I did a quick whois lookup and I found that the domain is only registered for a year, which proves my theory that it's likely a scam attempt even more.

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 15, 2019, 02:01:28 AM

I will be hesitant to use a new Bitcoin mixer, if I am not 100% sure that they are not some kind of "Honey Trap" for some government or just another scam to steal people's bitcoins. We know Chipmixer.com has a very good track history of protecting people's financial privacy, so there are no reason to risk using "new" mixer services that are untesated. Roll Eyes

People create mixers like this now, because they know governments are targeting large mixer services and they know people will be looking for alternative sites, if these larger sites gets shutdown. Roll Eyes

Mixers need to be way more secure and be sure not to reveal anything - otherwise, the governments will try and pin random crimes on them for an excuse to shut them down.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 15, 2019, 01:32:08 PM

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@timerland is pointing how the coins are mixed but you reply about something else

A huge wave of mixers came? Seriously? A few came but not a lot

There is demand, someone may very well want to start a site, legitimately, but realize after a while that he does not have the ability to manage his service whatever the reason). That doesn't mean in any way that his primary reason was to scam people. Not sure too why do you talk about Bitmixer but yeah I believe it was a "money-making machine", but I don't remember about people losing funds there.

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Quote from: timerland on August 12, 2019, 04:39:56 PM

This is quite a spectacle. Possibly one of the most poorly structured sites I've seen in a long time, and other than that, there are a lot of holes about the "service" you are offering here.

It just seems some half-arsed web developer saw some large mixers got shut down and then saw a way to profit off new customers by scamming them.

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We apply an innovative algorithm, Bitcoin Mixer 2.0, to uplevel anonymity and money mixing in comparison with classic mixers.

What is this new algorithm? You take away the customers money forever?

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Get cleanest coins from European, Asian and North American cryptocurrency stock exchanges

What does this mean? You deposit the coins into the exchange and withdraw to your customers. You will need to be more clear with everything when you are running a business that is supposed to be trusted with user funds.

Oh yes, it's pretty easy to understand. Imagine what happened when bitmixer went down, a huge wave of mixers came. Why? Because some knew people would start looking for other mixers and it was great time to start a business. scam people. Otherwise don't they knew running a real mixer service would be pain in ass? Yeah, so their attempt was scam, not providing a service. Was bitmixer's owner to close such a money making machine? Or are these new people cleverer than bitmixers owner? They wouldn't even dream the anonimity bitmixer was able to protect itself.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 15, 2019, 02:01:28 AM

I will be hesitant to use a new Bitcoin mixer, if I am not 100% sure that they are not some kind of "Honey Trap" for some government or just another scam to steal people's bitcoins. We know Chipmixer.com has a very good track history of protecting people's financial privacy, so there are no reason to risk using "new" mixer services that are untested. Roll Eyes

People create mixers like this now, because they know governments are targeting large mixer services and they know people will be looking for alternative sites, if these larger sites gets shutdown. Roll Eyes

How about if governments do tend to crack those smaller mixers first? For sure they are all doomed. Grin

(joke)

People will just normally use up reputable top-ranking mixers first before trying to use new ones which havent established their reputation yet.
Sad to say there are still people who do fall into these traps and cry later on when they got scammed.

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I will be hesitant to use a new Bitcoin mixer, if I am not 100% sure that they are not some kind of "Honey Trap" for some government or just another scam to steal people's bitcoins. We know Chipmixer.com has a very good track history of protecting people's financial privacy, so there are no reason to risk using "new" mixer services that are untested. Roll Eyes

People create mixers like this now, because they know governments are targeting large mixer services and they know people will be looking for alternative sites, if these larger sites gets shutdown. Roll Eyes

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Since crypto mixing service is one of the sensitive services we are dealing with, we need to see a big company offering or handling it.

This business is not an ordinary business. Before trusting a mixing service, you need to share every inch of the possible detail that is allowed to be shared in the public. You will not just make a short introductory post because it will raise lots of questions. Aside from that, the support or any representative here should be active as always to answer queries.

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Quote from: timerland on August 12, 2019, 04:39:56 PM

This is quite a spectacle. Possibly one of the most poorly structured sites I've seen in a long time, and other than that, there are a lot of holes about the "service" you are offering here.

It just seems some half-arsed web developer saw some large mixers got shut down and then saw a way to profit off new customers by scamming them.

Quote from: legendster on August 12, 2019, 05:04:00 PM

Yeah, I agree with the general consensus here, sites like these should be avoided. And the OP seems to have disappeared as well. Newbie account, first post, what do you expect?

So far the only reputable mixing site that I can think of is Chipmixer. It has done well over the years to stay on top of the game and clean of any BS drama (like Bestmixer).

Looks like they are just using /]Jambler's code and template[1]. I'm not sure how this works, but there are many mixers like this where they look exactly the same. Here is a list (there are """known""" mixers there as well, like MixTum): https://[banned mixer]/mix-coins.php

Basically anyone can create a mixer, call it "the best mixer", claim that it's using a high level algorithm that uses satoshi's owns coins and investor's funds from more than 200 countries to make it clean or some stuff like this.

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Yeah, I agree with the general consensus here, sites like these should be avoided. And the OP seems to have disappeared as well. Newbie account, first post, what do you expect?

So far the only reputable mixing site that I can think of is Chipmixer. It has done well over the years to stay on top of the game and clean of any BS drama (like Bestmixer).

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This is quite a spectacle. Possibly one of the most poorly structured sites I've seen in a long time, and other than that, there are a lot of holes about the "service" you are offering here.

It just seems some half-arsed web developer saw some large mixers got shut down and then saw a way to profit off new customers by scamming them.

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We apply an innovative algorithm, Bitcoin Mixer 2.0, to uplevel anonymity and money mixing in comparison with classic mixers.

What is this new algorithm? You take away the customers money forever?

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Get cleanest coins from European, Asian and North American cryptocurrency stock exchanges

What does this mean? You deposit the coins into the exchange and withdraw to your customers. You will need to be more clear with everything when you are running a business that is supposed to be trusted with user funds.

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Quote from: btcshaker on August 11, 2019, 12:29:08 AM

We have launched btcshaker.com onion address: nltkdfhwjavpbiwg.onion.

We mix your coins through top exchanges. Our backend service is based on jambler. No matter what your transactions, we provide you privacy through our mixing service, using clean and verifiable coins. Use btcshaker.com to ensure your anonymity online.

If that is the case then people would just go to an exchanges and mix their own coins without going to your services. Never look at your clear net, but obviously someone did and it looks like there are more questions than answers here. If you are really serious about your services then listen to the suggestions here and answer all the doubts about your project.

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What algorithm does the site work on? How is the mixing process done?
Are you ready to make money as collateral in case of any problem?

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mixing procedure are verified coins from cryptocurrency stock exchanges having an undoubtedly positive history.

How will it enhance this privacy? This means that all of these currencies are linked to central platforms, meaning that your identity can be linked "by new mixed coins currencies" and old currencies.
Fees?

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May be one of the method from here: List of (un)known methods scammers user to scam users with honorable mention :-P

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I wouldn't touch this with a 10 ft pole. Your website is filled with spelling errors, looks poorly designed and mentions 'Bitcoin stock exchanges'. Seems like a blatant scam to me.

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