Topic: New child board idea - Notable Twitter Threads (Read 267 times)

We don't need dedicated subboards for this but feel free to create your own thread if you wish.

Kinda redundant, we already have Meta.

Now that would be a popular new board

The worst example of all.
First, there is no need for the Twitter "discussion" since the author has made a far more detailed tutorial ​here
https://www.econoalchemist.com/post/home-mining-for-non-kyc-bitcoin
Second, that exact article was discussed here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56228772
The need for Twitter? Zero!

And as you can see on all the "threads" you've mentioned the "discussion" is almost nonexistent, nice wow, much great, pics, meme,  nice wow much huge and that's all. There is no real discussion happening anywhere on Twitter, just people shouting at each other and spamming their own "projects", the few notable tweets are already related to some events that are being covered by the media, so starting a whole section based on this would simply turn in a spam fest and a flame war.

This board is an exception that confirms that there is no identical moderation policy on the forum, which is logical considering that each moderator chooses how strictly he/she will moderate a board. If such moderation were applied in say Bitcoin Discussion, I believe that 50% of all threads and all posts would be instantly deleted.


If it is complicated (and any additional work for moderators only complicates their work), then it will certainly not be applied. So if we can't provide simple and practical solutions for such a board, I don't see why it would even exist - Press board would be a small baby compared to the Twitter board given the number of tweets that appear in 24 hours. Not to mention who would be competent to say what is a notable tweet, and what is not.

An exception could surely be made if the staff decided that it would be a good idea to approve this proposal by the OP. I doubt it though. Something like the WO thread that has its own set of rules (or no rules).

We have strict moderation in the Mining boards. Many people don't like it, but try and post something with no value, discuss something off-topic, or about GPU-mining and you will see what happens. A moderator can be strict if he chooses to. The Press board is a place where a firmer hand would be welcome.

That might be too complicated. Instead, whoever moderates that place can just ban those from the sub who spam and don't respect the rules. We have seen that being done in the Technical Bitcoin subs, when the mod decided to sanction certain members by removing their posting rights.

This. The idea is broken at beginning.

We don't need more moderation task for things which basically are unnecessary. No need for new world load for current moderators. No need to hire new moderators and assign them this task.

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I think such a board would just be a paradise for spammers, and strict board moderation is not something we can expect if we take into account what happened in the Press board. I put in some effort and time to make some kind of order there, and so far we have got rid of spammers and their links.

I might even agree with such a board, but only if the rights to post there would be clearly defined, that is, if they should be approved in advance individually for each member of the forum who would request it. However, in the end, ordinary members cannot decide on such things, and I think that our admins would not be inclined to such an idea.

Bitcointalk forum is mainly for Bitcoin discussions about developments, technical supports, etc. Other things are supplementary elements only, not main ones.

Twitter is full of tweets from influencers, KOLs (Key Opinion Leaders) and not all of them provides correct information. If a forum has a new child board, namely Notable Twitter, it will bring other issues: a new moderator for that child board.

It is unnecessary at beginning (original idea) to moderation phase.

If you need one place, here you go with Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion. If any newbie want to get notable information from social media about Bitcoin, that thread is place to start.

Obviously some spammy website doesn't deserve it's own board, but a thread dedicated to good posts might work. I'd say place this on the Press board.

I could do that in a self-moderated thread, but in Press it would violate the POST FORMAT: YYYY-MM-DD SITE - HEADLINE format. It also violates the Guidelines for Press board, but most topics do that already.

That's not a bad idea either. Concentrating the Twitter speculation in one thread instead of spreading it out seems like a win for the forum.

Thanks for posting some examples. It confirms what I knew about Twitter already: it's a terrible platform! Instead of making one informative article, they make 34 separate posts because the childish website doesn't allow more characters. I'm often annoyed already by Bitcointalk's 64kB limit per post, but I really don't get why anyone keeps up with Twitter's ridiculous restrictions. Do they expect their users' attention span to be no more than one full sentence?

If we exclude bots, fake accounts I guess around 70% of posted tweets are paid or some profit is expected from it. The rest of 30% are those who do not believe in it and comment because they thought they could directly contact celebrities and brands.

I did not find anything important on Twitter, which is not discussed here on Bitcointalk (often of much higher quality).

That's the most insane idea i have seen. Why not go to Twitter to see all those bitcoin discussions?

By the way, we have a lot of discussions of bitcoin in bitcointalk and we have a dedicated section of "Bitcoin Discussions" on our forum. Why not ask twitter to start a "notable bitcointalk threads" ?

have any of you actually used twitter or is that an assumption?

many twitter threads like these are pretty helpful and insightful educated discussion. i haven't really seen resources i've found on twitter anywhere on these forums:  https://twitter.com/econoalchemist/status/1355437397975027716

I have learned more about running a node, using the lightning network and mobile wallets & what the future of btc might actually look like through twitter than i have learned from using these forums. maybe i am looking in the wrong places, but there doesn't even appear to the a lightning board, odd for what is supposed to be the main scaling solution for bitcoin. there are already a ton of working apps, games, wallets, node implementations & more. anyone's that's used it knows its a completely different animal.

where is there a bitcointalk thread with a DIY on how to actually set up a routing node? https://twitter.com/purugyl/status/1444085548038049792

no one in these forums really talks about stuff like sphinx chat, podcasting 2.0 apps like breez or even other dope mobile wallets like muun, blue wallet or wallet of satoshi. Or how about seedsigner, the guy who made an open source stateless multi-sig hardware wallet using off the shelf components? i don't even think he's ever even posted here. if it weren't for them, i'd never have learned how to actually use multi-sig. "specter wallet" has like one hit in the search [which is horrible] and it's an awesome and easy to use multi-sig set up with a great GUI.  i downloaded and did my first statechain transaction using mercury wallet by something i learned from twitter, not from anyone here. absolutely no transaction fees - yet all bitcoin unless statechains are shitcoins now belong in the alternative cryptocurrency section.
last time i checked topics like that should take place in the bitcoin forum. im not talking about NFT's here im talking about bitcoin.

not many people on this forum are sharing medium blogs or substack links that show you how to actually do things. the equivalent would be guides but there's not much of that here as far as i can tell. i'll continue to bookmark it on my own but i just wanted to provide a suggestion because the impression i've been getting is that outside of the mining forums and perhaps some of the technical discussion forums, there isn't many helpful resources for people to act on today. all stickies seem to be like from 4-5 years ago too.

there is a whole "sub-section" of twitter that's referred to as "bitcoin twitter" which is bitcoin only and doesn't talk about altcoins. i've personally seen a lot of technical discussions happen there as well with many current bitcoin core contributors.

some more examples: how to set up multisig with coldcard + sparrow wallet: https://twitter.com/econoalchemist/status/1403968847107874822

just some other threads:

https://twitter.com/remyers_/status/1461371410023133184
https://twitter.com/darosior/status/1474375244991369218
https://twitter.com/codybaldwin/status/1472337873521164290

i do agree w/ points saying it should maybe be moderated. i don't want it to be an elon altcoin NFT forum. you guys can do what you want and add it or not, i don't really care and it doesn't affect me. i just was sharing an idea because it seems obvious to me that there is a lot of productive mindshare on twitter that is not on here at all.

That is a terrible idea and if you want to know why you should take a look at the Press board. Basically people are going to use boards like this to advertise themselves. Just like Press board we will start seeing people who would want to gather followers, advertise some shitcoin, do some pump and dumps, ... advertise their tweets on bitcointalk to redirect some people to their tweets.
People are already posting what they thing are "notable tweets" on bitcoin discussion board and so far I haven't seen anything valuable enough that demands a dedicated board.

Please create a special thread on the speculation board that you can moderate yourself and update regularly about new things you get from Twitter be it about bitcoin or altcoin. However I'm not sure that such a thread is necessary given that there will be a lot of spam filling your thread when you don't moderate it properly.


I disagree with your request, it should be rejected without any consideration. There are no new child boards in the (unnecessary) forum specifically for the hype that some people have spread on Twitter. If you know why the NFT board request was not approved then you will also understand why your request should be rejected.

While Twitter may be a source of information for some people, nothing justified having child board dedicated to it. The reasons that come to my mind are:

• Twitter more often than not just shows a quick resume of the news that a specific website posted. They want you to click on their link which will take you to their webpage. Does it make sense to you discuss about a twitter that just leads to a news website?
• We already have the Press board[1]. If you look into the board description[2] you'll see the following:
  
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  The original motivation of the thread was to collect links that fit Wikipedia's definition of Notability.  Once bitcoin was deemed sufficiently notable (a milestone!), the thread became an ongoing log of links.  Discussion was discouraged.
  Do note that there was a recent discussion[3] about the current state of the board and what could be done to improve it but unfortunately nothing came out of it (so far).
• The forum itself is a living book full of interesting discussions about BTC, it just takes time to find / (re)discover them.
  
• Having a dedicated section to discuss "twitter" discussion threads/tweets isn't directly linked to gaining more users from that platform - If they are already discussing it on Twitter, why would they come here to see it? Just to act as a way to keep the record of tweets? What about all the useful Reddit threads?

While the basis of your idea is good - pro-activity and creativity to expand the forum "tools" - I don't think this particular idea would result in a favorable outcome. Way before any kind of board being born for any kind of discussion of (insert social network here) news - which I doubt will ever happen - I would much prefer to see a reformulation of the existing press board...

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[1]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=77.0
[2]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.848969
[3]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370706.80

I don't really see the need for it. as far as I know, the bitcoin discussion board would work fine if you want to share notable bitcoin twitter threads(yes, that includes other social media as well). also, there are already Twitter posts that have been shared on that board. though I've seen Twitter posts that have been shared in that board being moved to off-topic, as long as the post is relevant enough I think you'll be fine.

There are few very interesting things said about Bitcoin on Twitter indeed. But they're actually very few, there are too few discussions there that worth mentioning here, while a lot of spam and useless talk is the normal there. The Press board already has its fair share of spam from businesses advertising their websites instead of having only notable things there. I expect a similar area for Twitter get even more spam.


Um.. no... if there's a post here about Twitter, people will go to Twitter check it, will not get Twitter people here since they won't know that.


I suggest you bookmark whatever you find interesting. If it's very, but very interesting, you can probably post it to Bitcoin Discussion.
Or it may also have been already turned into a news and then you can add it to Press.
However, use your browser's bookmarks. You'll see, it can help even with many Bitcointalk topics too.

Bitcoin has never done an airdrop (except maybe forks) and does not have any official social media account, so No, it did not start from there. iCOs are not bitcoin.
Social media play a major role in today's society and as such is a platform to discuss trending issues so it would have played a role in its popularity. This however does not justify a twitter thread on the forum.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

NO.

Could I put it any clearer?  There's way, way too much emphasis on what random or celebrity Twitter idiots say, whether it's on the news or Youtube videos or wherever.  The fact is that shit is just noise; people write things on Twitter in the hopes that it'll be noticed, so much of what you'll see on those forms of media I mentioned is inflammatory in nature or just straight up stupid--and the worst part is that those tweets are given so much weight.  In reality, everyone has an opinion and I don't want to see Twitter opinions given any attention on this forum by being given their own subsection.

Very bad idea, OP.

I would vote for such an addition but only if it had a moderator with very strict moderation policy. If it's going to be another Press board, then no.

No social media posts where some famous dickhead prophesies the future Bitcoin price or any other discussions about prices and spam like the date when Bitcoin will be worth $1 million. No one cares about that. If you share a tweet, you have to have your own opinion about it and you need to be able to create a meaningful conversation based on it. Not just quotes and screenshots of tweets.

Shared content should be something like future upgrades, improvements, meaningful partnerships, opinions by crypto leaders, ambassadors, etc.

From what i observe is like bitcoin started from social media like the one you mentioned and others like Facebook and telegram because people at a point know bitcoin from Facebook during the time of airdrop and my own i know bitcoin from a friend who knows bitcoin very well, but social media mostly is what makes Bitcoin to be popular, i believe that without social media circulating the information of cryptocurrency Bitcoin will not be popular like the way it is

Bad idea, OP
I can imagine that board being flooded by Elon Musk tweets for obvious reasons, and I thought we were already past that dude, lol.
I usually steer clear of that site along with Facebook when it comes to crypto-related discussion.
The forum is already fine as it is and we do not need more attention from other users in other social media platform. For sure people would think of this forum anyway along with Reddit when it comes to learning/discussing more about any sorts of cryptos but not Twitter.

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If you see any "notable twitter threads", it would be better to have just a single thread of that Twitter thread/topic in Bitcoin Discussion board then just cite your source of that thread/tweet instead of dedicating an entire child board for that.

This is not a media platform where you share threads or posts from other social platforms. There is however a press board here for "notable press hits", this is not limited to Twitter but includes top media stories from all over, but the content should be notable enough to be worth posting here.

The forum does not need to attract users through content from other platforms, this is the top crypto platform and users would be drawn strictly from the discussions here.
If you find a thread on Twitter you'll want to come back to in a couple of months, bookmark it.

Then why should bitcointalk with the better content, have a board specifically for some other platform?

Why Twitter, Facebook or any other social media thread? This is not necessary. If you see any information from external source, be it Twitter, Facebook, news or from whatever external source, you can create a new thread about it if you think it can lead to constructive discussion here. It has been happening this way and we are all fine with that. Remember this is Bitcointalk, we do not need anything special for any other external sources but only Bitcointalk.org.

That's a great idea, hilariously i didn't even think about that.

What about "Notable Facebook Thread", "Notable reddit thread","Notable Telegram Thread"
I guess this will be a nice idea to implement.

By the way, if all these get implemented, the forum will look nice. It will be easier for newbies to find out everything very soon as they need to check the child board to child board to child board, again child board & again child board 

So I've noticed that there's a TON of bitcoin related discussion that happens on twitter.

It would be cool if we had a "notable twitter threads" child board so if users see something interesting, they can share it for others here.

It would also bring more attention and users to the forum itself and would help serve as an archive of sorts.

its difficult to find these threads after a couple of months have passed unless someone retweets it.

bitcoin talk also has a couple advantages over twitter. the forum platform is a lot better for genuine, longer & nuanced discussion when compared to something like twitter.

Feel free to share your thoughts if you think its a good or bad idea.