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Topic: New Indicator: Number of sites accepting bitcoin (Read 16387 times)

legendary
Activity: 1666
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Marketing manager - GO MP
Why does the  graph have those sudden drops?

Because when checking for expired links one usually does this in bulk.
sr. member
Activity: 254
Merit: 250
Why does the  graph have those sudden drops?
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...

Thx scribe Wink Will do once a month. If you like you can post in this thread as well if you like and I will paste your reviews on the front page.

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Concerning the new graph: I think it provides a better understanding when the categories on it and on the list share the same names. Otherwise it is unclear what entries in the list are combined in what category in the graph.



What list?

The one on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

So how do you propose we deal with people who edit the wiki merging categories in the past to get what we have now? I think there may be a miscommunication somewhere.

Not quite sure I understand you, but if you are concerned about getting the correct historic values for the categories, pls see my own list from the front page: http://dfiles.eu/files/utggvq80h
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...

Thx scribe Wink Will do once a month. If you like you can post in this thread as well if you like and I will paste your reviews on the front page.

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Concerning the new graph: I think it provides a better understanding when the categories on it and on the list share the same names. Otherwise it is unclear what entries in the list are combined in what category in the graph.



What list?

The one on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

So how do you propose we deal with people who edit the wiki merging categories in the past to get what we have now? I think there may be a miscommunication somewhere.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...

Thx scribe Wink Will do once a month. If you like you can post in this thread as well if you like and I will paste your reviews on the front page.

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Concerning the new graph: I think it provides a better understanding when the categories on it and on the list share the same names. Otherwise it is unclear what entries in the list are combined in what category in the graph.



What list?

The one on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...

Thx scribe Wink Will do once a month. If you like you can post in this thread as well if you like and I will paste your reviews on the front page.

----------

Concerning the new graph: I think it provides a better understanding when the categories on it and on the list share the same names. Otherwise it is unclear what entries in the list are combined in what category in the graph.



What list?
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...

Thx scribe Wink Will do once a month. If you like you can post in this thread as well if you like and I will paste your reviews on the front page.

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Concerning the new graph: I think it provides a better understanding when the categories on it and on the list share the same names. Otherwise it is unclear what entries in the list are combined in what category in the graph.

hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Nice job, bitcoinbitcoin113 - and is it possible to automate to generate an auto-updating image file? This was Spekulatius' other request to make the job a little easier.

On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...

The script will automatically create an updated chart every time it is run. I don't know how to do this then have it update the image on a webpage though.
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
Nice job, bitcoinbitcoin113 - and is it possible to automate to generate an auto-updating image file? This was Spekulatius' other request to make the job a little easier.

On a side note, I did like Spek's summary of 'interesting new entries' too, would love to see more of that...
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 250
Not trusting third parties with my private keys
If someone knows how to fix the map of Real World Shops to use https google maps that would be great.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Real_world_shops
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500

- ignore/merge/map sections on the wiki page for when they got reorganised
- fix the HighCharts output which I think has too much stuff in (doesn't show for me anyway) - see http://www.exmosis.net/btctt/highchart.php
- count across different language versions, eg. take the German page into account as well, to get a more global view on activity




Someone needs to check the categories in my chart and see which (if any) should be merged with the current set of categories on the page. Also someone needs to go to the forum language versions and tell which english they correspond to:

eg:
Currency exchanges<-Exchange-Plattformen / elektronische Börsen

I think this chart could have promise for setting a lower bound on number of merchants once that is done.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Ok, I modified it to get all the historical data:





The following categories were renamed (effectively merging them). The new name is on the right:
"Bitcoin paymennt systems"<-"Bitcoin payment systems"
"Currency exchange"<-"Currency exchanges"
"Hotels."<-"Hotels"
"Material products"<-"Material / Physical Products"
"Travel / Tourism "<-"Travel / Tourism / Leisure "
"Hotels"<-"Travel / Tourism / Leisure "
"Internet services"<-"Internet & Mobile services"
"Professional Services"<-"Professional services"
"Sex related services"<-"Adult"

Ok thanks. Now we only have to make it a little prettier  Grin

Why did you rename the categories??

Because the categories and names used in the wiki changed over time. After I renamed them its pretty consistent. Perhaps there were more mergers that I missed.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
Ok, I modified it to get all the historical data:





The following categories were renamed (effectively merging them). The new name is on the right:
"Bitcoin paymennt systems"<-"Bitcoin payment systems"
"Currency exchange"<-"Currency exchanges"
"Hotels."<-"Hotels"
"Material products"<-"Material / Physical Products"
"Travel / Tourism "<-"Travel / Tourism / Leisure "
"Hotels"<-"Travel / Tourism / Leisure "
"Internet services"<-"Internet & Mobile services"
"Professional Services"<-"Professional services"
"Sex related services"<-"Adult"

Ok thanks. Now we only have to make it a little prettier  Grin

Why did you rename the categories??
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
the drops are wiki updates?

Every data point corresponds to a wiki update. Drops are probably people culling the lists/ vandalism
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
₪``Campaign Manager´´₪
the drops are wiki updates?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Ok, I modified it to get all the historical data:





The following categories were renamed (effectively merging them). The new name is on the right:
"Bitcoin paymennt systems"<-"Bitcoin payment systems"
"Currency exchange"<-"Currency exchanges"
"Hotels."<-"Hotels"
"Material products"<-"Material / Physical Products"
"Travel / Tourism "<-"Travel / Tourism / Leisure "
"Hotels"<-"Travel / Tourism / Leisure "
"Internet services"<-"Internet & Mobile services"
"Professional Services"<-"Professional services"
"Sex related services"<-"Adult"
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
How informative is this data?  I mean, Bitpay says it has over 2000 merchants right? 

And thats all they say about it. They dont want to get anymore specific then that. So we dont know WHO those merchants are, if they are the same outlets only with multiple accounts and IF they even exist. Its a claim after all, that has not been backed up with facts.
I think it is also important to not only rely on one single source, but all available and veryfiable information there is.


@ bitcoinbitcoin123 & scribe: Thanks for the effort! Looks great! Maybe you guys can work out something with the functionality of scribe's earlier builds and the appeal of high charts or similar? I trust in you! ❤
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
₪``Campaign Manager´´₪
How informative is this data?  I mean, Bitpay says it has over 2000 merchants right? 
sr. member
Activity: 295
Merit: 250
what was the problem with it? Here is one in R that should work as long as the wiki doesn't change too much, I dont know how to host it though.:

R? nice Smiley

Check back through the thread for other requests, but the things I had in mind was stuff like:

- ignore/merge/map sections on the wiki page for when they got reorganised
- fix the HighCharts output which I think has too much stuff in (doesn't show for me anyway) - see http://www.exmosis.net/btctt/highchart.php
- count across different language versions, eg. take the German page into account as well, to get a more global view on activity

Hosting on github is pretty easy - sign up, download the GUI, start a new repo, copy files in. Something like that Smiley Happy to help via PM, or might just put a copy up in my repo for reference.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
what was the problem with it? Here is one in R that should work as long as the wiki doesn't change too much, I dont know how to host it though.:

Code:

require(RCurl)
require(XML)
require(ggplot2)


remove.list<-c(
  "Getting started","Currency exchanges", "Financial",
  "Bitcoin eWallets","Bitcoin payment systems"
)


old.results<-read.table("old_results.txt", header=T)


new.data<-getURLContent("https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Trade&action=edit",
                        ssl.verifypeer = FALSE, useragent = "R"
)

new.data<-readLines(tc <- textConnection(new.data)); close(tc)

categories<-as.data.frame(cbind(
  grep(pattern="^==[A-Z]",new.data),
  new.data[grep(pattern="^==[A-Z]",new.data)]
))

categories[,1]<-as.numeric(as.character(categories[,1]))

entries=NULL
for(i in 1:(nrow(categories)-1)){
  selected.cat<-new.data[categories[i,1]:categories[i+1,1]]
  rem.headers.step1<-selected.cat[grep(pattern="/(*)",selected.cat)]
  
  if(length(grep(pattern="^==",rem.headers.step1))==0){
    rem.headers.step2<-rem.headers.step1
  }else{
    rem.headers.step2<-rem.headers.step1[-grep(pattern="^==",rem.headers.step1)]
  }
  
  out<-cbind(selected.cat[1],length(rem.headers.step2))
  entries<-rbind(entries,out)
}

entries<-as.data.frame(entries)
entries[,2]<-as.numeric(as.character(entries[,2]))
entries[,1]<-gsub("==","",entries[,1])
entries<-entries[which(entries[,2]>0),]
entries<-cbind(rep(format(Sys.time(), "%b %y"),nrow(entries)),entries)


new.results<-entries[-which(entries[,2] %in% remove.list),]
colnames(new.results)<-c("Date","Category","Number")

try(
  new.results<-rbind(old.results,new.results)
)
rownames(new.results)<-1:nrow(new.results)

qplot(Date,Number, data=new.results, geom="bar", fill= Category)+
  opts(title=c("Number of BTC Accepting Merchants \n (en.bitcoin.it/wiki/trade)"))

png("newchart.png")
qplot(Date,Number, data=new.results, geom="bar", fill= Category)+
  opts(title=c("Number of BTC Accepting Merchants \n (en.bitcoin.it/wiki/trade)"))
dev.off()


write.table(new.results, "old_results.txt")



Produces (with made up February data to show it could update automatically):

Code:

"Date" "Category" "Number"
"1" "Jan 13" "Internet & Mobile services" 203
"2" "Jan 13" "Online products" 126
"3" "Jan 13" "Material / Physical Products" 219
"4" "Jan 13" "Professional services" 86
"5" "Jan 13" "Commerce and community" 49
"6" "Jan 13" "Travel / Tourism / Leisure " 31
"7" "Feb 13" "Internet & Mobile services" 105
"8" "Feb 13" "Online products" 86
"9" "Feb 13" "Material / Physical Products" 98
"10" "Feb 13" "Professional services" 99
"11" "Feb 13" "Commerce and community" 92
"12" "Feb 13" "Travel / Tourism / Leisure " 84


And this:




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