Topic: New investigation on Satoshi Nakamoto & the Origins of Bitcoin (Read 354 times)

Well, we do not have to worry too much as Satoshi Nakamoto was clever enough to leave it up to himself whether to come out. My book showes that any speculation needs to be eventually confirmed by him, or would you know any method of positive proof without Satoshi Nakamoto's voluntary cooperation?

I'm  sure if you truly want to see bitcoin  stay anonymous then you shouldn't be interested or bothered over the identity  of Satoshi and I personally haven't imagined Satoshi to ne anybody  rather rather I've always seen him as a God  in human form who has helped to protect the security  and identity  of people.
Don't you think the originator of an asset which is globally accepted will be at risk if his true identity  is been reviewed ? Please you guys should think about this and let your curiosity die off so we can all enjoy the cure purpose of bitcoin  which is helping  people have fully control  of their money  without a third-party or government.

How do you identify "who Satoshi Nakamoto is"? Let's say is was Joe Bloggs, and he is already deceased, what is the point. I personally would prefer him staying anonymous, but understand how and why he created Bitcoin. I also understand that for lots of Bitcoiners are only interested in the financial side, which is fine, but people like me are curious about its social and cultural aspects, too, and mankind has always been driven by pure curiousity, even beyond immediately practical purpose.

I looked into this as well. Overall I think Satoshi Nakamoto took good care of protexting his pseudonymity, so ieven if his real name was fielded, which might have happened in my book (which is now also available as an ebook on Amazon), he can simply deny as I cannot imagine any unambiguous evidence linking his name to creator of Bitcoin. What might be beneficial for Bitcoin is to clarify who is not Satoshi Nakamoto, whether through false nominations or self-claims.

Well, the identity might not matter so much, but you might understand that some people want to learn more about the origins of a cultural artefact and belief system that Bitcoin has become by now. Just leave it up to everybody whether they want to get into it.

This is a funny and weak approach to finding out who Satoshi Nakamoto who is the founder of Bitcoin was. This your hypothesis and research is never sufficient for me to wnat to check for further findings from you.
If the government that had been trying so hard to find out who Satoshi Nakamoto was and could not find an answer to there research, how possible do you think you can do this with a proper evidence.

What do you think will happen to Bitcoin if the founder who is Satoshi is known to the public? This wi drastically affect the price of Bitcoin and make people not to have interest in Bitcoin and what the crypto market could impact.

I don't know why people are really wanting to know who Satoshi is,  because I just know that humans are just too troublesome and the moment they finally discover who Satoshi is, there are possibilities  that people will want to start persecuting him for some unreasonable reasons.

Personally  I don't see any reason to wanting to know the real identity  of Satoshi as long as it doesn't affect the volatility  of bitcoin, and I also think that the anonymity of the founder  of bitcoin, Satoshi  is one major reason bitvoon has been trusted this far as no singular person  is seen as been in charge.

Upon all the numbers of projects running on the blockchain today that have team members and the world knows who they are, which one is really decentralized as Bitcoin? Do you know the kind of forces that are ruling this centralized force? Bitcoin worked and it's the only decentralized currency that comes to the rescue, nothing comes this close, so I don't care who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, what he created is a real success against centralized authorities, I appreciate him, case closed.

Thanks for this - Bitcoin would also be the first "global" item on the cultural heritage list.
 I am a non-native speaker indeed, cultivate my accent, and am not anonymous / pseudononymous, so people can easily access my public profile and find out about my native country.

You make a great case for Bitcoin becoming UNESCO world heritage.
The cool thing about it: Compared to other artworks, buildings, cities etc that are UNESCO world heritage already, there is no concern that the blockchain may be disassembled or destroyed in any way - no matter if it is recognized by any such organizitation or not.
Your English is quite good, there are some things you could work on, most prominently "psychology" - the p is silent. The way you pronounce certain words does give away your native language I believe.

I enjoyed hearing about the parallels you see in Bitcoin in comparison to other sociological phenomena. Entertaining on a high intellectual level, well done.

I appreciate youtr comment, eh creator of Bitcoin was indeed so clever that uncovering his identity is probably not possible. This effort might have actually been somewhat less complicated than at least I initially thought. Still, the myth around his identity is a paramount part of the financial phenomenon and cultural artefact he created - there are not many pieces of code that made it into public discussion. So my investigation will take you down this rabbit hole, and in particular help you clearly dismiss false nominations and irritating self-claims - in my opinion all candidates fielded so far are not Satoshi Nakamoto, and that is not necessarily because that they would not have had the technical competence, genius, or mindset to do so.

That is what we can do for now to speculate because Satoshi is too smart to not leave any solid evidence which will unlock his identity. Bitcoin whitepaper must be for Bitcoin, like on how it works but what we have here is a summary of new investigations that Satoshi Nakamoto could be this or that guy. Many of us are curious about the true identity of the founder of Bitcoin but not all are motivated enough to investigate further like the OP.

The government and the bank, wants to find out who is the true Satoshi maybe because they want to arrest him because they don't like his creation. This could also be the reason on why Satoshi choose to be anonymous.

Please refer to my previous comments. There are way more intriguing questions in the story of Bitcoin than the formal name of its creator. I tapped a bit into this in teh series, e.g., in Part 5/5, and quite extensively in my ebook at www.satoshinakamoto.be. For some people it is also about a facts-based analysis why essentially all current nominations and self-claims are wrong, and there is good evvidence why the beautiful origin myth implanted by the ingenious Satoshi Nakamoto might be preserved for good.

Honestly at this point what good would it do to find the true creator of Bitcoin? What would the world benefit from that? I honestly think it would do more harm than good....

Well, teh choice depends on what you are looking for.  The issue is that there are no simple answers, and expecting a definite answer to who is Satoshi Nakamoto is naive - and mrom my point of view futile without the creator of Bitcoin, or a credible eye wirness, stepping forward. I know you get the most clicks / sales by making a claim on knowing the person, but this is all bogus. I am actually more interested about the origin of Bitcoin, like technologies, idealogies and psychologies that all came together to enable and inspire Satoshi Nakamoto, and to make Bitcoin on eof the most disruptive, unexpected, and unprecedentedthe success story we have observed unfolding over more than a decade.
The ebook screens about 30 profile in quite some detail, showing that the putative profile I presented fits, to a large extent, to an astonishing number of people from all walks of life at the time. You only get a short glimps of a selection of more first tier "names" in the 4th part, but I omitted the dark horses so far, as just throughing these names in the ring without a related profile does not make sense. Still, I habve been told that the "1-in-a-billion" filter slide in the middle of the 4th part might be the most revealing element, so you might want to consider this episode if you do not have the time.
Those who are just searching for a unjustified nomination will not find what they want in my work, as there are way more interesting aspects than Satoshi Nakamoto's formal identity. You will certainly revognize that pretty much all nominations proposed so far can be dismissed as false based on hard facts, and dark horses cannot be confirmed owing to a lack of information to run against the exclusion filter.

Okay, now this is intruiging. I (and I think a lot of folks) don't just have so much time on their hands to just watch all the videos.

Unless you veto this, I'll first watch your final video, "the bigger picture". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxXG62R6gSw
If I enjoy it, I may schedule some time to also check out the other videos.

Do you actually draw any conclusions regarding Satoshi?

I appreciate your comment, but I am sure you would change your mind after watching all videos, and at least skimming through the ebook. You might also want to factor in that some insiders, people who were corresponding with directly Satoshi Nakamoto or the famous cypherpunks often suspected to have created Bitcoin, already responded to me, finding my ebook very useful with new facts, conclusions, and profiles. Note that of course the videos can only be a high-level overview of some of the content of my ebook with ~300 pages of text plus ~3500 mostly hperlinked references, and AI-supported context. The story is very complex, as the ingenious inventor of Bitcoin was very clever, and lucky, too. If you are not interested, this is OK, in a free community everybody can decide on their own whether they bother about new contributions.

Did you really expected that a trillion dollar currency market filled with tens and tens of millions of people wouldn't be able to find something a guy could do a research on and find? I mean OP did something typical, he collected all the information in a single place, nothing new, however the only thing he might be considered good for is he collected them in a single place that we rarely see, not that it hasn't been done before, but it hasn't been a common thing, you find these information spread all around online, with this at least it's in a single place.

Aside from that of course there are no new information, there couldn't be one, we don't get to find it, if there is anything, it has been unearthed by someone already.

Well, it depends on how you define "use". Factually you are correct with the details; however, I took "use" as that Satoshi Nakamoto contacted Adam Back on hashcash, as far as we know the first person he ever reached out to regarding his Bictoin project, and cited hashcash in the whitepaper, while omitting many other precursors, e.g., even Hal Finney's RPOW.

Look, if you were to watch even my Part 1/5 video, I more or less concur with your view. It is not about his identity, but about his profile and mindset, and how Bitcoin was created out of its technological components (which were more or less already available in the 1990s), communities, ideologies, and the global financial crisis. As opposed to many, I do not think Satoshi Nakamoto was a radical cypherpunk, and I also think that teh development of Bitcoin was not exclusively triggered by the banking crisis. It is also interesting to investigate whether Satoshi Nakamoto was aware of the tremendous psychological momentum of the origin myth he seeded.