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Topic: New Ledger native desktop app to be released on July 9th, 2018 - page 2. (Read 686 times)

legendary
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I also prefer to run most things with a dark theme. It seems like this has already been request on the Reddit Megathread, and the Ledger team have acknowledged the request.
legendary
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Yes, I know and agree the user interface is not the most important. I was just expecting something better looking and currently, I prefer the old interface. At least we can get rid of the browser extension. I am curious to know, anyone knows why they never built an extension for Firefox?
Probably because Chrome apps can run "more standalone". There are Chrome extensions and Chrome apps. With it, you could access the Ledger apps without directly opening your browser, while in Firefox, the wallet would have to be "built-in" in the browser (like your regular Adblock that opens in a little window when you click at their icon next to the URL bar).
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Yes, I know and agree the user interface is not the most important. I was just expecting something better looking and currently, I prefer the old interface. At least we can get rid of the browser extension. I am curious to know, anyone knows why they never built an extension for Firefox?
legendary
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Interface os irrelevant .
They can make a new one anytime.
What is important is get rid of chrome spyware.

Moving away from Chrome is undoubtedly more important, but I wouldn't say the interface is irrelevant. However, I really like the new interface. I've always been one for a minimalist and zero-clutter look, and I think it achieves that well while still being easy to use.

Some third party apps seem not to work natively with the new desktop app (ETC seems to work now, NEO still doesn't). Even though I don't own a Ledger Nano S anymore, I really like the new app. I don't understand why everything always has to be white these days. I prefer dark interfaces since it's more convenient to use them in the evening.
legendary
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Interface os irrelevant .
They can make a new one anytime.
What is important is get rid of chrome spyware.

Moving away from Chrome is undoubtedly more important, but I wouldn't say the interface is irrelevant. However, I really like the new interface. I've always been one for a minimalist and zero-clutter look, and I think it achieves that well while still being easy to use.
legendary
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bitcoindata.science
Interface os irrelevant .
They can make a new one anytime.
What is important is get rid of chrome spyware.

legendary
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Seems that they've released it, got this link from their Twitter page: https://www.ledgerwallet.com/live

I find it strange that they put a link to the legacy Chrome apps on that page, considering that Chrome apps won't be alive for much longer, and they could just put those on a separate download page.
The wallet is still in its early days. What if the new wallet isn't working on someone's else computer? Let them fix the bugs and wait until everybody migrates to the new wallet.

Also, removing the old versions of a working wallet isn't something very smart to do. They won't update it, but anyone can use it while still supported.


P.S: Careful with the double posts.
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
I prefer the new one. (well, there's no accounting for taste...)

Also, having an all-in-one dashboard is what matters the most (at least for me).
https://imgur.com/a/0pagvBc

Is it really the interface? I laughed when I saw it  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Sorry but the user interface is ugly, there is nothing special, it even looks like an alpha version  Cheesy It made me think about something done with Bootstrap.
I prefer the old design by far.

I like the new one as well. I don't see anything wrong with that flat, clean style. That kind of style is everywhere these days too. I prefer this to something that's a lot more busy.

EDIT:
Seems that they've released it, got this link from their Twitter page: https://www.ledgerwallet.com/live

I find it strange that they put a link to the legacy Chrome apps on that page, considering that Chrome apps won't be alive for much longer, and they could just put those on a separate download page.

EDIT: Since they're not listed on the download page, here are the checksums/hashes for the Windows binary

legendary
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I prefer the new one. (well, there's no accounting for taste...)

Also, having an all-in-one dashboard is what matters the most (at least for me).
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https://imgur.com/a/0pagvBc

Is it really the interface? I laughed when I saw it  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Sorry but the user interface is ugly, there is nothing special, it even looks like an alpha version  Cheesy It made me think about something done with Bootstrap.
I prefer the old design by far.
legendary
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So I've just downloaded and used Ledger Live with my Ledger Nano. Some first impressions:

When using it with a pre-initialized device, you have to first answer two security questions ("Did you choose your PIN code by yourself?" and "Did you save your recovery phrase by yourself?"), and it then performs a security check on your device to confirm it is genuine. Nice feature to help stop the second-hand scams that we saw earlier this year.

You can set a password to stop Ledger Liver being opened and any offline data (such as portfolio tracking) being accessed. This is obviously entirely separate from the security on the hardware wallet itself.

The interface is smooth and sleek - see the album of screenshots in the post above this one. It is very easy to navigate and gives on screen instructions about when and where you need to navigate on your hardware wallet.

My only complaint is this - The portfolio tracker will only track coins with native Ledger compatibility - Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dash, Ripple, PivX, Litecoin, etc. It does not support coins that use Ledger with a separate wallet - Neo, Ark, Stellar, Nano, all ERC20 tokens, etc. I had really hoped to be able to do away with third party apps like Delta or Blockfolio and have my Ledger monitor all my accounts in real time. Unfortunately this is not yet the case.
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legendary
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Is it available on github? What language is it written in, and how difficult was it to compile?
They actually have "Release Candidates" binaries for Linux, Windows and Mac available on Github: https://github.com/LedgerHQ/ledger-live-desktop/releases


Can anyone make some screenshots for me or record a video?
Album of screenshots here: https://imgur.com/a/0pagvBc
legendary
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Is it available on github? What language is it written in, and how difficult was it to compile?

Yes, it is. You can find it here. It's written in C++. You should not have any problems with compiling it yourself. It doesn't require much to download and the installation process is quite easy. Everything is described in the link above.

I have sold my Ledger some time ago. Can anyone make some screenshots for me or record a video?
hero member
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
T-1 day can't wait. I am also hoping they support more currencies asap.
Initially, they will only support the already supported coins (28 cryptocurrencies).

I compiled the wallet myself and it's looking dope.

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You’ll find the full list of features of this first release below

- Native desktop application (Windows, macOS, Linux)
- Multi currencies (28 cryptos including Bitcoin, Altcoins, Ethereum, Ripple…)
- Multi devices (Ledger Nano S, Ledger Blue)
- Read only consultation of accounts without device (protected by optional password)
- Dashboard view of all assets
- Counter values: choice of currency & exchanges
- Send, receive, account balances & history
- Confirmation before sending funds
- On device verification of the receive address
- Faster account synchronization engine
- Easy onboarding for new users
https://www.ledger.fr/2018/02/23/announcing-new-ledger-wallet-desktop-mobile-applications/

Is it available on github? What language is it written in, and how difficult was it to compile?
legendary
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T-1 day can't wait. I am also hoping they support more currencies asap.
Initially, they will only support the already supported coins (28 cryptocurrencies).

I compiled the wallet myself and it's looking dope.

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You’ll find the full list of features of this first release below

- Native desktop application (Windows, macOS, Linux)
- Multi currencies (28 cryptos including Bitcoin, Altcoins, Ethereum, Ripple…)
- Multi devices (Ledger Nano S, Ledger Blue)
- Read only consultation of accounts without device (protected by optional password)
- Dashboard view of all assets
- Counter values: choice of currency & exchanges
- Send, receive, account balances & history
- Confirmation before sending funds
- On device verification of the receive address
- Faster account synchronization engine
- Easy onboarding for new users
https://www.ledger.fr/2018/02/23/announcing-new-ledger-wallet-desktop-mobile-applications/
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T-1 day can't wait. I am also hoping they support more currencies asap.
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The Chrome app looks like a cheap solution as if they didn't know how to create a native desktop app. I am not saying it's easy to create nor I know how to but it was the very first impression I got at first. And more when I saw there isn't an extension for Firefox/Palemoon/Seamonkey.
If you care about your privacy today you need to use 100% open source solutions, and still, then you need some extras measures..
By the way, there is a proverb saying "Sometimes, giving up your privacy is a little like going to the dentist and we have let him have access that no one's ever had."
legendary
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Google does already know way too much about their user. I honestly don't want to know what kind of information they are gathering just by downloading and opening a chrome application..

Not only Google, if you just use Windows OS amount of data that is collected by Microsoft is huge and not to mention Facebook, Twitter or any other social platform that exists today. It's a business worth tens of billions of dollars, and everyone wants their share of the cake.

I think it is very hard or even impossible keep complete aninimity on internet, and there is a public data revealed by Snowden about NSA attempts to identifying users since 2013. So regarding privacy using Chrome app or Ledger desktop app there is no big difference.

What's the most important thing regarding desktop wallet is that user will have all coins in one interface which will facilitate using of Ledger. It is nice idea, but we need to be a little more patient and see how this will work in practice.
legendary
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But they're not stealing your xpub from the app, nothing like that.
That´s not even possible, as this data never leaves your ledger nano. And google would never do that.
The xpub is the extended public key from which all of the addresses in the wallet are generated. It leaves the device so that the wallet can display your addresses and retrieve balances.

What bitmover probably wanted to say is that google is not able to extract the xpub key from the chrome application (unless ledger did some bad mistakes).
While the xpub key is being shared with an application, google has not the power to steal it from inside the application.

For google to steal your xpub key, you would have to install their wallet and open the corresponding application on your nano s. THEN google could have access to your xpub.


Google does already know way too much about their user. I honestly don't want to know what kind of information they are gathering just by downloading and opening a chrome application..
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But they're not stealing your xpub from the app, nothing like that.

That´s not even possible, as this data never leaves your ledger nano. And google would never do that.

What they do is what they say in their privacy police, which is something like "everything you do here we will sell to third party"
The xpub is the extended public key from which all of the addresses in the wallet are generated. It leaves the device so that the wallet can display your addresses and retrieve balances. It does not give control of your coins to anybody that has it, but it does reveal all current and future addresses.
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