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hero member
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November 02, 2016, 04:13:17 AM
I haven't used anything realted BitFury so I have some questions and will be glad if anyone answers me.
Can we upgrade antminer s9 boards with  BitFury chips? Or only antminer s5 as writed in this thread? Has anyone ordered BitFury chips from seller from this thread? I understand if I'll change board than there won't be warranty but if I buy BitFury chips, will it have warranty? Also can I buy this chips from Official Bitfury?
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
November 02, 2016, 03:56:04 AM
Hey, any news here?
legendary
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August 07, 2016, 05:08:46 PM
Gee, what ever happened to "miners in May"?

No no no,that was "May have miners"  Cheesy
legendary
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August 07, 2016, 04:30:27 PM
Gee, what ever happened to "miners in May"?
legendary
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April 28, 2016, 01:05:06 PM
seems quiet here.

@ukrcoin
Did you get any Bitfury chips yet?

I don't think anyone did.
hero member
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April 28, 2016, 12:59:17 PM
seems quiet here.

@ukrcoin
Did you get any Bitfury chips yet?
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
April 23, 2016, 03:17:24 PM
Update/upgrade Antminer s5, boards with  BitFury chips

We would like to offer boards with  BitFury chips  16nm  to replace / upgrade Antminer S5

Specifications
Algorithm: SHA-256
Hashrate: 5 Th / s
Power Consumption: 550Watt
Power Efficiency: 0.11 w / ghash

Shipping out date: starting may 2016
Cost: reference to cost of terahash bitmain S7 minus 5%.

Are the specifications correct on this?
I didn't think that the S5 miningcomputers could handle more than around 1.2TH for that miner.
sr. member
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April 23, 2016, 03:14:46 PM
Has anyone ordered anything from miner.bz? I've read the thread and understand the concerns. But it's the site a scam?
legendary
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April 22, 2016, 08:13:48 AM
I wonder what happened
sr. member
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March 25, 2016, 08:41:37 AM
And the procet what day it's ok
newbie
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March 25, 2016, 08:17:04 AM
Looking forward to hearing how this goes. Posting to subscribe
zOU
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★ these are stars ★
March 25, 2016, 01:36:55 AM
Looks like an interesting project if it comes to fruition, posting here to subscribe to thread.  Hopefully we'll see a working prototype.

I agree 100%.

Lot of good info and hopefully this will be on track :
legendary
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March 24, 2016, 05:07:44 PM
I didn't say it doesn't happen here it does it happens any place in the world, i don't think there is one place on earth it doesn't . my point was i would buy from American's before i would any one any other places but thieves are everywhere and the US has very tough laws for fraud then what they were when the BFL junk happen if you pay with cash, in some caes psay with btc like the BFL miss hap. it won't mater what the product is cash is cash , that's why i try to pay with cash and will use escrow for btc, if i have to don't want to and ty to avoid using escrow.

 why I  said with some kind of dispute protection , i don't trust anyone that much with large a mounts of cash involved.

DR fudge bills, dentist imo are the worst ones to go to they have no real laws they have to follow for fees like regular DR have to . don't get going with dentist ive only meet two my whole life i would  or would have recommended  to any one, one is dead he died 10 years ago the other one retied a few years ago, she was real good, i have yet to meet one sense that wasn't worried more about his or her packet even with insurance.

etc etc

but i stand by

Id only buy here cost is lower in most cases most will honor what they sell you. by not ripped off i got the product or what i paid for, if it worked right or not, completely different mater ( if it didn't i got refund and sent it back) . by close calls i had to dispute it because it takes to long but i got it , in fact right now i have something i had to dispute, should be here tomorrow or Saturday.
 post office said they had a delay in shipping it .

but for me to buy this with blind trust with no way of getting it or way to fight it i wouldn't, even if i could afford one, to be honest, I don't believe it's real or will happen, time will tell.

I hope no ones bought in to it yet. we should just wait for bitury to make it official, but that's me .

Side I in deed hope you get chips i should have enough btc saved up to get one for a c1 upgrade or 12 to 14 th . and when i get more hope you still have the chips and selling them.

cya
legendary
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March 24, 2016, 02:30:54 PM
Looks like an interesting project if it comes to fruition, posting here to subscribe to thread.  Hopefully we'll see a working prototype.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
March 24, 2016, 08:38:44 AM
I almost got burned by BFL, but not nearly as bad as some. I put down on a Jalapeno in May, in September managed to get a refund from PayPal and immediately put it into an AM Blade which I had inside a few days. The only thing I've really gotten screwed on was Minion miners. I ordered a couple X1 from Minersource in about February; in July Carson talked to me about the Technobit Minion boards and I traded my X1 orders for a pair of boards from him - he was supposed to get about half a dozen of their first working boards, to back them up about all the order trading they were doing. Well that fizzled out, I never saw the boards, two of my hosting customers never saw their 40 boards, some of my PSU customers never saw their boards either, Minersource was talking to me about a big PSU rework job but stopped answering emails as soon as I asked him to get squared up about that year-old unfulfilled Blackarrow order turned Technobit order. So the only folks I've been screwed by were an American, and American partnering with some Chinese, and an American partnering with some Bulgarian. Carson did me a couple favors (like giving me a discount on an A1 Dragon with a dead board) but usually at a price (like waiting six months to ship a replacement A1 Dragon board) and it was him bailing on that PSU job, where I was already buying materials for it and was counting on the revenue from it to finish paying for my hosting expansion and had already promised my customers reduced rates, which hurt my business more than any three other bad things that have happened.

So, there are definitely Americans more than willing to hose a person. And now I think about it, both BFL and Minersource were from my home state of Missouri so that doesn't speak very well for us now does it.
legendary
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March 24, 2016, 08:24:08 AM
Without any other references than the member rating on this forum, yes this forum will assume you're a noob.

OK. Buddha smile.

We have a war in Ukraine going so sorry no time for inventing Bitcoin scam empires.

you really can't blame them for saying your place is the scam capital of the world , IVE had some dealing selling stuff there i trusted the buyer and ended up paying the CC company,the CC he used was stolen and  because i did not do the sell the right way i ended up paying for it . that was a few years ago .

Hi man, sorry to hear that, but basically any country is a scam capital. Just look at USA and its Ben Bernanke Show.

I suspected that financial system is not real when I was 15. My parents STILL believe they use ''real money''. Ben did his homework good (or my parents just too stupid).


Tell ya what,you go & video this device working (& a realtime instance of the miner software being used) & in the video hold a newspaper with the date clearly visible & a personal message to me on a separate piece of paper (I'll PM you what to write on it),then MAYBE I'll believe this device exists.

That still won't prove this device is going into full production though & all preorders will be fulfilled........................

If I will send you the video with a paper and any text you'll ask to write, will you order one?

yea like others i would buy it only if it's real and selling and from were I live for that much and pay cash with  some kind of dispute protection, and you can call us what you want, I have yet to be ripped off on a sell i did in the US for money or bitcoins I'll be 60 July this year, some close calls or seemed that way, and i know it can happen at any time, no mater what i do ,but there is lot of honestly in the US or a hell of a lot more then people think.




BFL & BlackArrow here Sad 

I got my BFL gear but VERY late(over a year on the 65nm stuff) & BlackArrow I got lucky as hell,had chatted with Matt alot during the Drillbit fiasco & did me a solid & refunded my BTC,that one was close.

I was too broke to go in on anything else,which as it turned out was a blessing in disguise  Grin

legendary
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March 23, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
Without any other references than the member rating on this forum, yes this forum will assume you're a noob.

OK. Buddha smile.

We have a war in Ukraine going so sorry no time for inventing Bitcoin scam empires.

you really can't blame them for saying your place is the scam capital of the world , IVE had some dealing selling stuff there i trusted the buyer and ended up paying the CC company,the CC he used was stolen and  because i did not do the sell the right way i ended up paying for it . that was a few years ago .

Hi man, sorry to hear that, but basically any country is a scam capital. Just look at USA and its Ben Bernanke Show.

I suspected that financial system is not real when I was 15. My parents STILL believe they use ''real money''. Ben did his homework good (or my parents just too stupid).


Tell ya what,you go & video this device working (& a realtime instance of the miner software being used) & in the video hold a newspaper with the date clearly visible & a personal message to me on a separate piece of paper (I'll PM you what to write on it),then MAYBE I'll believe this device exists.

That still won't prove this device is going into full production though & all preorders will be fulfilled........................

If I will send you the video with a paper and any text you'll ask to write, will you order one?

yea like others i would buy it only if it's real and selling and from were I live for that much and pay cash with  some kind of dispute protection, and you can call us what you want, I have yet to be ripped off on a sell i did in the US for money or bitcoins I'll be 60 July this year, some close calls or seemed that way, and i know it can happen at any time, no mater what i do ,but there is lot of honestly in the US or a hell of a lot more then people think.


legendary
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March 23, 2016, 01:27:42 PM
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mining was the best way of getting them......& it's not viable anymore.


How about gettin yourself a work in Bitcoin ecosystem? It's pretty good as for me.

Like how?? I don't do "referrals" for non-existant miners or whore my self to sig & avatar leasing.

I'm not a software guy & everyone is a hardware expert,so too much competition there  Roll Eyes

Don't have enough to "invest" in any hardware development,not worth it anyhow with the corporate miners taking over the BTC network completely..........

What does that leave?? Liars & scammin?? Learned my lesson very young about that crap,I can never get away with it,like most can (BFL,AMT,BlackArrow,Bitmine,etc...)  Cheesy
newbie
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March 23, 2016, 08:21:30 AM
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mining was the best way of getting them......& it's not viable anymore.


How about gettin yourself a work in Bitcoin ecosystem? It's pretty good as for me.
hero member
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March 22, 2016, 11:27:36 PM
The problem is not that you will deliver the gear.
Not that the gear works.
Not that the gear works at 3300 watts for 32 th.

Not that the gear comes on time.

Let's pretend all of the above happens.

It means I have to wait until sept 15 or or sept 25.

So I send you 6400 used or 16 btc. And I wait not 1 not 2 or 3 or even 4 months I wait 6 months.

I can buy 9 s-7s with psus for 6400 and have them in six days.

That is 40th in six days or 32th in six months.

So the better chip is a six month wait.

The lesser chip comes in 2-3 months.  So I get a boiler in June .

I believe in your product and I believe it will ship.

But the deal on the money end does not seem good due to the long wait.


Let me pile on.

All of the above plus:

1) A bad quirk in the design.

2) Uneven manufacturing quality.

Both 1) and 2) showed up in BITMAIN's S7 and they are "experienced" in this line of work. This is devastating to the ROI of a small miner.

3) Suppose something bizarre happens in the intervening 6 months to bitcoin such that it makes no sense in investing in miners?

4) Suppose your company goes out of business in 6 months?

You haven't made a good case for the customer to assume a ton of risk. Especially since you will no doubt be a late comer to the market.
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