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Topic: ★★ NEW-- Poker Room Design for new bitcoin brand & LAUNCH PROMO --NEW ★★ - page 5. (Read 20196 times)

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Another security measure -
A lot of our marketing will be done on bitcointalk. Users receiving promos like NO DEPOSIT BONUS' etc, all will be awarded only through the forum. Therefor, users will have to have a bitcointalk account with activity, and open their ultimatebit account using the same account username as bitcointalk, to receive the bonus' - this isn't to say that cheaters cant circumvent this, but it does lower the chances when you have a 6 month old account with activity on bitcointalk. You can check user activity quite easily. This will help for indicating certain player qualities.
We will be able to validate bonus' based on bitcointalk activity and trust score.


Concentrating on bitcointalk community as a main pool of potential players sounds very smart in the sense of preventing some kinds of collusion, fraud etc. At the same time it will need a lot of marketing work to fill the tables, especially in local subforums. So if you'll need the translations of promomaterials etc for russian subforum just let me know (russian is my native language).

It won't be only on bitcointalk, but I'm using this forum to help me validate players by my criteria, so for example, New users receiving bonus' etc will have to use the same bitcointalk username. If their account is at least junior member with no negative trust than I can give a bonus, check out the users past posts etc. it's just an extra help not something g we are going to completely rely on.
We are doing a lot of paid marketing, media buying, ppc, forum marketing such as signature campaigns (here4trades will be helping with that) as well as affiliation.

Once our affiliate program is up, we will be looking for key strategic partners in different regions, so if you'd like to help pick up our Russian desk, we can definitely talk about it. Just PM me and we'll talk about it.
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Another security measure -
A lot of our marketing will be done on bitcointalk. Users receiving promos like NO DEPOSIT BONUS' etc, all will be awarded only through the forum. Therefor, users will have to have a bitcointalk account with activity, and open their ultimatebit account using the same account username as bitcointalk, to receive the bonus' - this isn't to say that cheaters cant circumvent this, but it does lower the chances when you have a 6 month old account with activity on bitcointalk. You can check user activity quite easily. This will help for indicating certain player qualities.
We will be able to validate bonus' based on bitcointalk activity and trust score.


Concentrating on bitcointalk community as a main pool of potential players sounds very smart in the sense of preventing some kinds of collusion, fraud etc. At the same time it will need a lot of marketing work to fill the tables, especially in local subforums. So if you'll need the translations of promomaterials etc for russian subforum just let me know (russian is my native language).
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If you are even half decent at busting cheats you got me interested.  Currently no site related to bitcoin is doing anything about it and excited to see what you bring to the table.

The problems I mentioned are also quite visible in fiat poker rooms. It's almost impossible to completely eradicate it, but I believe that colluding players (which in my opinion is the biggest threat, more so than bots) that know of admins taking their job seriously, and are out to get them, would probably prefer trying their luck elsewhere, as its not so hard to catch. Our alert system can actually pick up on it pretty fast and so can most players. Having your account suspended with like 500mBTC would suck for them and opening multiple accounts would be a nuisance.



 
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If you are even half decent at busting cheats you got me interested.  Currently no site related to bitcoin is doing anything about it and excited to see what you bring to the table.
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It's nice to hear RNG was approved by iTechLabs, they seem to be more reliable than most of those gambling comissions which give licenses to real money rooms and literally don't have any power over rooms when supposed to protect players interests. I had an issue with one of merge network skins and Kahnawake gaming commission which licensed them just said: "yes, they fraud you but we can do nothing about that"  Grin So at the end everything depends on professionalism of room's team imho. As ultimatebet and some others experiences showed if they want to scam, nothing can stop them. That's why nice to see how eking657 handle everything by now. It says a lot about the team imho.

eking657, u didn't answer on 2nd part of p3ppymon's question about bots. Interested in your position on it too.

Sorry, just read the follow-up question.

Again, I'm not a developer so its a little bit hard for me to give you a precise technical answer for this question.

What we have in place for internal security is an alert system. We can detect with a considerable amount of accuracy player collusion. (Ill get to bots in just a sec.) Basically, on top of the usual collusion security protocols such as double accounts by same I.Ps etc, we have a system that actually detects playing patterns. If players are betting high, then folding to the next player. The system accumulates data and we process it statistically to determine whether player collusion is in fact happening or not. To be 100% honest, it is not bullet-proof, byt does make it almost pointless for colluders to play on our system. Players with a very high collusion score will have their account locked until further investigation. This will also prevent them for withdrawing their funds until we have eliminated the security threat.

For bots

We also have an alert system of the same type for bots. Bots run on algorithms and do not change style of play, so it is not impossible to find them. However, my team did make the point that this too is not bulletproof, and it can take some time to detect such applications.

This is the most honest answer I can give you.

But on top of everything -
I'm running this brand with people that play poker offline and online regularly! Were taking this project very seriously, and have great ambition to make this the home of bitcoin poker. Instead of running this company like a normal poker room, I think this room will have a unique personal touch to it, where players will actually know the owners, admins and support personnel very well! We will always have admins on site to manually check what's going on, on cash tables, at all times.

People caught cheating, after a full investigation, will have their account/s closed and their funds appropriated. When the investigation is over we will look back at the hands played, and reward players directly affected by the cheaters.

Another security measure -
A lot of our marketing will be done on bitcointalk. Users receiving promos like NO DEPOSIT BONUS' etc, all will be awarded only through the forum. Therefor, users will have to have a bitcointalk account with activity, and open their ultimatebit account using the same account username as bitcointalk, to receive the bonus' - this isn't to say that cheaters cant circumvent this, but it does lower the chances when you have a 6 month old account with activity on bitcointalk. You can check user activity quite easily. This will help for indicating certain player qualities.
We will be able to validate bonus' based on bitcointalk activity and trust score.

If at any point of time, you feel you are at jeopardy playing on the table against colluders or bots, you will always have the option to catch us on LIVE CHAT and let us start an immediate investigation. We will take every case seriously.

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It's nice to hear RNG was approved by iTechLabs, they seem to be more reliable than most of those gambling comissions which give licenses to real money rooms and literally don't have any power over rooms when supposed to protect players interests. I had an issue with one of merge network skins and Kahnawake gaming commission which licensed them just said: "yes, they fraud you but we can do nothing about that"  Grin So at the end everything depends on professionalism of room's team imho. As ultimatebet and some others experiences showed if they want to scam, nothing can stop them. That's why nice to see how eking657 handle everything by now. It says a lot about the team imho.

eking657, u didn't answer on 2nd part of p3ppymon's question about bots. Interested in your position on it too.
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One of my concern is the randomisation of the deck. How is this done? Is the dealing verified at the end of the hand with hash? Otherwise people might think it will be a scam.
Second concern. Howe the website is going to deal with bot? Major poker rooms are highly affected by this. How are you tackling this problem?

Hey thanks for commenting.

If I understand your question, your looking for a system that's provably fair, just like you have on bitcoin casinos. To the best of my knowledge, and I'm no tech expert, such software does not exist for poker. Or is very problematic, as It requires action from players before moving on to the next hand. From the little research I did, such a system does not yet exist, or atleast a system that has proven to work well.

However, we DO use an RNG (random number generator) for our games, and have approval from iTechLabs (the seal of approval, plus access to their site showing their approval for our software will be showcased on the footer of our website).

If you have any other technical questions, don't hesitate to ask. Even if I don't have the answer I can always forward it my tech guys.

Thank you
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One of my concern is the randomisation of the deck. How is this done? Is the dealing verified at the end of the hand with hash? Otherwise people might think it will be a scam.
Second concern. Howe the website is going to deal with bot? Major poker rooms are highly affected by this. How are you tackling this problem?
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I will be working along with  eking657  to promote the site inside and outside bitcointalk, mostly focusing on advertsing within the spanish community .
I strongly support the project he  always heard not only mines but everyones  recommendations/opinion on how to make this project a successfully by not making same mistakes as others did and taking the Poker Online ( Crypto Related ) to the next level with this amazing project.


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I've seen 100000 edit's in OP but cannot find is this running up or it will be near 1st Oct?

Also, what will be the name of this poker room? Logo is showing Ultimabe and bitcoin logo. Ultimate something is not a good name for a poker room. My first association was with UltimateBet - the biggest cheating scandal in the online poker history with superuser accounts Cheesy

The poker room will open for beta on the 1st. However you may expect a brief postponement as we are still finishing up with coding and implementing the cashier. This may take up to the 5th, perhaps even till the 7th, this is out of my hands. I will update everyone when I know more.

The name of the brand is UltimateBit - Bit - as in bitcoin -  and obviously, we have no affiliation to UltimateBet. UltimateBet is really old news. Almost a decade old! Hope this doesn't discourage you to play at our poker room.

Best

Nope, it will not stop me from trying your new poker room, but it's just making bad associations.
I mean, some players are playing the game from much more than 10 years and are remembering the UltimateBet scandal Smiley

Ya I'm very much aware of the scandal, I actually used to play poker on absolutepoker along with pokerstars.
In my opinion, I think players will be reminded of the name but because there's so much that separates the brands, such as 10 years difference, only bitcoin and altcoins, different software etc. I think it won't affect the growth of the brand.
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I've seen 100000 edit's in OP but cannot find is this running up or it will be near 1st Oct?

Also, what will be the name of this poker room? Logo is showing Ultimabe and bitcoin logo. Ultimate something is not a good name for a poker room. My first association was with UltimateBet - the biggest cheating scandal in the online poker history with superuser accounts Cheesy

The poker room will open for beta on the 1st. However you may expect a brief postponement as we are still finishing up with coding and implementing the cashier. This may take up to the 5th, perhaps even till the 7th, this is out of my hands. I will update everyone when I know more.

The name of the brand is UltimateBit - Bit - as in bitcoin -  and obviously, we have no affiliation to UltimateBet. UltimateBet is really old news. Almost a decade old! Hope this doesn't discourage you to play at our poker room.

Best

Nope, it will not stop me from trying your new poker room, but it's just making bad associations.
I mean, some players are playing the game from much more than 10 years and are remembering the UltimateBet scandal Smiley
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It is good that you are not rushing things and instead make sure that everything
is working as intended before launching the site publicly.

I think everyone here understands the delay.

Are you going to offer 2FA in order to enhance user account security?


Deeply appreciate the understanding on this issue. We can not rush this. I have seen several issues lately arise with swcpoker, and really do not want to experience that in our software. Not even in the beta.
For us, the beta should work with absolutely no flaws whatsoever. Instead, it should be used an experience, so users can get to "feel at home" using a new software.

Yes, we will have an option for 2FA. Ill get to that as soon as we finish the poker software and start implementing the cashier development.
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It is good that you are not rushing things and instead make sure that everything
is working as intended before launching the site publicly.

I think everyone here understands the delay.

Are you going to offer 2FA in order to enhance user account security?
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Hello Everyone -

Just a short update.

I regret to inform those that have waited so patiently, that we will have to postpone the beta launch. Some things are completely out of my hands and as much as I have tried getting everything done on time, it appears that we will have to launch the beta with a short delay of around 7-10 days.
So it appears that the launch will be held on 10/10/2017 instead of 01/10/2017

My sincere apologies.

I have had many requests by users who are interested in taking part in the beta. I will update all of you when we are close enough to be 100% sure of the launch.

Unfortunately, we had to fix several bugs, fine tune the system, change table sizes, and a few other technical issues that we are facing. Nothing too serious, just a matter of time.

Thank you for patience.

In the meantime, if you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to either post it here, or PM me.
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I've seen 100000 edit's in OP but cannot find is this running up or it will be near 1st Oct?

Also, what will be the name of this poker room? Logo is showing Ultimabe and bitcoin logo. Ultimate something is not a good name for a poker room. My first association was with UltimateBet - the biggest cheating scandal in the online poker history with superuser accounts Cheesy

The poker room will open for beta on the 1st. However you may expect a brief postponement as we are still finishing up with coding and implementing the cashier. This may take up to the 5th, perhaps even till the 7th, this is out of my hands. I will update everyone when I know more.

The name of the brand is UltimateBit - Bit - as in bitcoin -  and obviously, we have no affiliation to UltimateBet. UltimateBet is really old news. Almost a decade old! Hope this doesn't discourage you to play at our poker room.

Best

UltimateBit is a pretty good name, the bad thing is the history attached to it but nothing has to do with Phil Hellmuth ... I haven't seen him or news about him being involved in Bitcoins.

I excited for this sites to launch looks promsing.
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I've seen 100000 edit's in OP but cannot find is this running up or it will be near 1st Oct?

Also, what will be the name of this poker room? Logo is showing Ultimabe and bitcoin logo. Ultimate something is not a good name for a poker room. My first association was with UltimateBet - the biggest cheating scandal in the online poker history with superuser accounts Cheesy

The poker room will open for beta on the 1st. However you may expect a brief postponement as we are still finishing up with coding and implementing the cashier. This may take up to the 5th, perhaps even till the 7th, this is out of my hands. I will update everyone when I know more.

The name of the brand is UltimateBit - Bit - as in bitcoin -  and obviously, we have no affiliation to UltimateBet. UltimateBet is really old news. Almost a decade old! Hope this doesn't discourage you to play at our poker room.

Best
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I've seen 100000 edit's in OP but cannot find is this running up or it will be near 1st Oct?

Also, what will be the name of this poker room? Logo is showing Ultimabe and bitcoin logo. Ultimate something is not a good name for a poker room. My first association was with UltimateBet - the biggest cheating scandal in the online poker history with superuser accounts Cheesy
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by the way which types of games will be available on betatest in ring games tab?

ps just noticed u asked for emails to participate in beta, pm'ed u again

We should have holdem, Omaha, O H/L and Stud
actually, just PM should be enough, I'm gonna send out a message just before launching the beta.

Thanks again.
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by the way which types of games will be available on betatest in ring games tab?

ps just noticed u asked for emails to participate in beta, pm'ed u again
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We are all waiting please tell me if i understand it correctly

up to 50% rakeback daily - up to 500 mbtc first deposit bonus

daily freerolls

Smiley

is there any mention as to the affiliate system and when it will be launched

Regarding daily freerolls:

Yes. We will hold freerolls throughout the day.

There will be several levels of freerolls.

VIP bronze - all new members at UltimateBit start with this level. There will be between 6-8 freerolls in this level everyday, for new players to come along and test our software, play and just have some fun.

As you start playing on cash games, your VIP level will start to climb, to Silver, Gold and Diamond membership.
Players on these levels have exclusive freerolls with higher prizes, and naturally a smaller player field, making it a lot easier to cash in on some free BTCBTCBTC

This is our way of rewarding real cash players with better prizes!

Regarding First deposit bonus -
I think I mentioned this to you in PM

Yes, we will have a first deposit bonus of 500mBTC
Again, as mentioned previously, we will never lock in your deposit! You will always be able to withdraw your money!
The bonus unlocks in increments, releasing a portion of the 500 the more you play.

So just to recap:

Beta free - 1 mBTC throughout the beta test (some conditions apply)
Up to 500 mBTC first deposit bonus
Daily freerolls for all VIP levels.
Up to 50% rakeback

If you have any further questions let me know

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