Topic: New price $6K for Jingtian 28nm 1T miner - page 2. (Read 5334 times)

KyrosKrane, I totally agree. Great point. Maybe we should start a new thread for fact-checking of new 28nm ASIC companies. It will be very helpful for miners to tell what's the promises/lies and what's the facts.

As guys here suggested, we are contacting ckolivas now, and if it is success, we will have someone fly to Australia with our system.

Meanwhile we send out sample units to USA and Europe now. I will try to get hold with Luke Jr for his professional opionion. Anyone knows how to contact with Kano?

Thanks.

people won't care for stories, about 'be cautious'. or who copy what. only thing is hardware in front of them working nicely, if cheaper they will buy from cheaper source who can deliver quickly

and the cheaper source is not ebay of course, i had kept eye on it before I hear of other reseller and your start this announcement days later

I am not sure what can be disclosed. So I will wait for skyfromwell to update the information. BTW, our miners are NOT sold on ebay now.  You CANNOT have the same miner as ours since it is never sold before. Someone just copycatted our old design with defects and built a few sample miners. So be cautious.

I will sell same product for $300 discount, if anybody is interested.

They are on ebay but not sure if resellers scam or actual Jingtian themselves.

Now we know who has been cashing-out all the BTC...

So... mining since January... with 50THs+... Now you can't get reward, so you are "selling" your used hardware, since you contributed to the fall of BTC value directly.

$6000 here in the forums, but your website you say $8000... And still pre-order.

Yet, for less, everyone is selling those same miners, also as a pre-order.

What advantage do we have by buying your over-priced used miners, or hope for the new ones that are pre-orders. I am not seeing the advantage here. You could make more just buying the existing miners, and reselling them.

I suppose you might have a good china-base... But at those prices, the units are not any kind of advantage to anyone in china.

Good to see you got them running, almost two months ago. Why didn't you sell them than. (Oh wait, I bet you did, and changed names. So you are using other peoples pre-orders, made a new company, get more pre-orders, change your name again, and have 2x more miners to dump on the BTC markets.)

Might want to try e-bay... (Though, I am sure you are there selling too, the same 50 miners you already have running.)

http://imgur.com/a/tcimG

Will have an image of the rPi uploaded shortly as well.

so u already sold all your units?

Bobsag3, that one is not from me but a copycat who brought sample chips. He bascially somehow get some info of my early design that has a main defect in it.

I will have one of these units later today, will crack her open and see whats inside.

Let's talk a story, as in Hollywood movies and this story is all fiction and but based on true fact. LOL.

So it is just a story and people should not link their names with it.

At Wonderland, there is a guy named Good Digger who wish to have a powerful tool, so he can have a go on Gold Mountain. But he has no ability to make the core for this magic tool to work. So he looks around, far and away, in a place there is someone who actually have the ability to help him out.

So with hard cash on the hand, he found this guy named Good Maker to work out a deal. So he paid up front for some development costs and also for some portions of making the tool. As return, Good Digger will get his portion of finish product and of course Good Maker has the right on the tool and also keep a bigger portion of the magic stuff.

Of course, for Good Digger, he got some wonderful stuff and he can use them to make his powerful system. As a good marketing talker, he can also bloating around the miners community to show off his "invention".

But for Good Maker as a great skilled but low-profiled guy, he wants to make sure he really did a great job.

So he found his good friend the Good Worker to help up, by designing a cool system as proof to test his core is indeed a great one.

Then the design is come out very quick and successful. They put together 60 systems and let them to run a longer test.

At this point, Good Worker as a new comer to the community decide to let their design to go public, and at same time helping Good Maker to sell their great stuff.

So end of story.

1. Do you think Good Maker's own mining core is "owned" by Good Digger? The agreement pointed out both guys can named their stuff and can digging themselves or resell their systems.

2. Do you think Good Worker have Good Digger's core? Even both of them are coming from same design? So if Good Digger named their core with brand-name "My Magic", then of course, stuff from other sources are NOT "My Magic".

I had to point to that post, because OP is unwilling to say what chips are in miners, has stated before that it's not bitmine A1, that the 'company' developed chips themselfs, but from the pcb picture posted we can see A1 chips there. How OP got them? If they bought the chips, why is that such a secret?

Great post.

And please be a little patient and wait for us to catch up with all those requirements.

When ready would be intrested what chips are in these miners.

On this, I disagree.  A link to pool stats is meaningless.  They could have just about anything generating those terahashes on the back end.  Even worse, assuming they really are real and functioning miners, then the pool stats are proof that they're pre-mining with the machines until they're worthless, at which point they will deliver them.  Not encouraging.

Real proof would be a video of the mining rig running, hooked up to a PC (or whatever) and very clearly isolated from other machines. Real proof would be honest communication about what chips are powering the machine, how many per board, how to hook it up, what power requirements are, and so on, alongside the video.  Real proof would be sending the machines to a few different trusted board members (I'd suggest ckolivas, Kano, and Luke-jr as they're the primary developers of mining software, plus a couple of hero-level members with good trust levels and plenty of trade history) for them to run, evaluate, and post photos and videos.

This is a suspicious community, and with good reason -- there are plenty of new scams every day, and most of them start out a lot like this post does.  When proof of a working product is provided, the community almost literally throws money at these legit firms.  Sadly, the less experienced will also throw money at the scammers, resulting in many fleeced newbies. As a community, we're hard on unproven companies in part to protect the newbies, and in part to protect ourselves.  But prove yourself to be a valuable contributor, and you will be welcomed with oodles of cash and coin.

good point, KyrosKrane. We only focused on the fact not the bad mouth. I hope the miners companies could should more valid proof here, instead of only promises. I appreciate the fact that JT miner showing their real testing rigs running in a pool. I think this is valid proof that they have real rigs, and the stability and power consumption won't lie. We should encourage more companies to come out here doing the same things. I personally won't pay a penny until I saw the real running rigs showing me the promising results.

People tend to distrust ANY new poster on these boards, whether they speak good or bad. It takes time to build trust. A history of meaningful contributions and good trading experiences makes one more trustworthy.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5335037

  , no one will buy bad post/review from newbie, right? only from senior members