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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

It is a strategy for them to promote their project. A 50% discount is kinda the maximum discount for me; any higher than that will be a big loss to the project. And with the amount, I hope it is only for the first 20 or so investors or like the first week or so of the project. There is no problem with them giving discounts as long as it is not too good to be true or else, the people will start to doubt them. It's discount we are talking and not profit afterall.

Giving discount is nothing better than without discount what I mean is even . if they are giving away 200% discount it is not like that the coin price will remains the same or not cut off or less estimated because the discount. It's already happening so much time and proven that giving discount means higher chance of token price dumping. Most of the project that giving away discount are those project that wants to reach the target even though the demand is underwhelming or those money grabber anyway. discount just doesnt make sense.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

It could be a "project killer" but it can also help the project to be advertised as long as the promo is linited to only some people with a specific time. New projects want to be popular in the market and the fastest way to do that is to offer the potential investors promo if they will be the ones who will invest first in the project. It's kind of a loyalty award or veteran award or something and who knows if the project succeed and become a strong competitor someday, you can share the credit of being one of the few who pioneered it.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

It is a strategy for them to promote their project. A 50% discount is kinda the maximum discount for me; any higher than that will be a big loss to the project. And with the amount, I hope it is only for the first 20 or so investors or like the first week or so of the project. There is no problem with them giving discounts as long as it is not too good to be true or else, the people will start to doubt them. It's discount we are talking and not profit afterall.

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If the team works well on the development of their project, such discounts will not affect their coin in the future. In fact, there are no secrets here. The team is either working on the project or not. His success and the price of the coin depend on it.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

I believe you mean 50% bonus when one invest in token sale right? If so, then some just do this as a marketing strategy. For example, if they intend to sell the token at 1$ per token originally, they can say token price is 1.5$ plus 50% discount. This means even if one invests at 1.5$ per token with the bonus, it's still same as their original plan. Good tokenomics is what I look out for, and not just the bonus given.

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Despite the season, giving such amount is not good for any project. First giving out a 50% bonus only leads to dump from the part of the token investors when bonus is paid to them. 5-10% is appropriate during Tokensale.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

They are the one that created the price, not the market if they are giving away 50% they can proceed, if they have a good potential in the market, investors will go for it, if not even if they offer 100% they will be ignored.
We have seen so many times investors are angry because the price they bought on the coin is way down below their expected price, don't be deceive don't go for the price, look for the potential, it's also dubious if the project just wants to sell all their coins at any cost even at 50 to 80% off, think why they are selling and your guess is as good as mine.

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New projects are mostly scam or not well planned projects, as for me i don't create huge interest in new projects unless i detect some reasonable facts through research on the projects

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Quote from: vanya.pronin.1983 on October 17, 2019, 07:50:18 AM

Who else is responsible and it entirely on devs and team managers. They can blame hunters and market how often they like, but at the end those problems are their miscalculation and regular investors have nothing to do with this.

People think it is an easy task to grab investors for their tokens. They think they can be like bitcoin or may even defeat it but once they really get to do the job, most of them run away. Creating something is one task but marketing it and gaining value is a whole different game. Moreover, there is no point in trying out new tokens when we have options like bitcoin and ethereum. One can become very rich with these in hands.

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Quote from: fosco333 on October 18, 2019, 03:49:14 AM

Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

They gives offer 50% of normal price because they want more peoples to invest, buying their token.
But the discount rate should not be too high, the value of their token will be difficult to increase later.
Actually, the project killer is the non-transparency, we won't know whether the devs will burn or lock the unsold token, not selling it later.

they give high discounts because at the early beginning of the project no one believes in the implementation of the project and therefore they are trying to attract money - with big discounts or bonuses. Sometimes it is succeed

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I think they don't have trust in their own project, so give a 50% bonus to investors. Yes, it is part of marketing, but some people judge that they will not glance at this kind of project because it will end up with a price that is not in accordance with the promise when entering the exchange. It's better to buy when it's on the market than having to go to the store.

Providing large bonuses for early investors is common from the past until now. In my opinion, this is part of the marketing strategy of the developer team and this is legitimate because there is no clear regulation from the government regarding new projects or the sale of tokens.

but the team did not do the advanced strategy if they give a big bonus, maybe some developers who did the strategy give a big bonus to investors but they were not ready if the price dropped in the market. therefore, the bonuses given should not be large but sufficient bonuses to attract the attention of investors, maybe would be wiser

If it is a business strategy, I think it is not profitable for buyers because the market price will also not be like the prices in the tokensale. Therefore it's useless to give a bonus at the beginning if only to attract buyers. It's better to use other marketing strategies that can boost the selling value on the market rather than giving a bonus. I think like that.

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

They gives offer 50% of normal price because they want more peoples to invest, buying their token.
But the discount rate should not be too high, the value of their token will be difficult to increase later.
Actually, the project killer is the non-transparency, we won't know whether the devs will burn or lock the unsold token, not selling it later.

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Quote from: Aabcde on October 15, 2019, 04:50:27 AM

I think they don't have trust in their own project, so give a 50% bonus to investors. Yes, it is part of marketing, but some people judge that they will not glance at this kind of project because it will end up with a price that is not in accordance with the promise when entering the exchange. It's better to buy when it's on the market than having to go to the store.

Providing large bonuses for early investors is common from the past until now. In my opinion, this is part of the marketing strategy of the developer team and this is legitimate because there is no clear regulation from the government regarding new projects or the sale of tokens.

but the team did not do the advanced strategy if they give a big bonus, maybe some developers who did the strategy give a big bonus to investors but they were not ready if the price dropped in the market. therefore, the bonuses given should not be large but sufficient bonuses to attract the attention of investors, maybe would be wiser

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Quote from: Samboo on October 13, 2019, 09:42:27 PM

In the name of luring investors, bounty projects often give high degrees of discount ranging from 40 percent to 80 percent. But ultimately this high degree of discount backs fire in the end. I think it is bad practice to provide high degree of discount on the purchase of coins. What happen when the coin that has given high degree of discount is its price falls to almost zero when exchange listing.

Most real projects will never do such a thing, it has become so glaring to me now that these projects knows what they are doing by giving such huge rewards, they knew right from the onset that it was going to be a very big problem for the project which they do not care because that was actually their tactics to use in making the project dump for people to forget about the project.

I have come to realize also that some of the projects that we need to start going far away from are these projects with huge rewards because it is absolutely impossible for them not to be a dump coin by the time all the investors dump the reward alone on the market will surely crumble the value that the project had built and may eventually turn it to a shitcoins.

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Who else is responsible and it entirely on devs and team managers. They can blame hunters and market how often they like, but at the end those problems are their miscalculation and regular investors have nothing to do with this.

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Quote from: The3max on October 17, 2019, 04:41:21 AM

The token died, which led to the project losing its value, the company had no measures to solve, no large capital from angel investors or they were too poor. I think not many projects use the money raised from investors to develop products.

Most of them are just aiming for benefits so why they will use the money that they've got from the introductory sales.

Being professional to the field always bring the advantage to scammers who are just lurking around to find potential victims.

Tokens died eventually as the creators is not interested to any updates and progress it's all about the money that they've gonna take from the project.

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The token died, which led to the project losing its value, the company had no measures to solve, no large capital from angel investors or they were too poor. I think not many projects use the money raised from investors to develop products.

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But in fact today many projects are dead and all of them do not provide much benefit to the participants. they even left no updates on the clarity of the project after funding. and if like that the price on exhcange will definitely drop large enough it could be until there is no buy order. very sad with these conditions

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Quote from: Samayuki on October 05, 2019, 06:10:49 AM

In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong

For new projects, it is usual to give a large discount to the initial investor. Competition to seize investor funds for new projects is very tight and one of the ways to attract them is to provide a large discount. If the project is good, even though it doesn't offer a big discount, I think investors will still be interested

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