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legendary
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November 25, 2016, 03:30:29 PM
#52
I still don't understand why there are some people opposed to the SegWit implementation. Isn't it something that will make the Bitcoin ecosystem better? What are the arguments against this? Could it take more than a month for the consensus to be reached?

Go into r/btc and actually experience these guys first hand.
It's like walking unaware into a room full of staunch feminists and SJW's. Every word you say is taken negatively. Every word you MIGHT say is defended against by a preemptive attack. Smiley
Quite funny.
So, after several coup attempts over a couple of years now, they have redefined english, new ways to think, etc. Like 1984.

Deep diving into all that (shudder) and translating back to normal english reveals a basic issue, I think.
They sincerely believe that segwit locks in a future where only layer 2 solutions to scaling are permitted.
So they think blocking it is a good thing.

But that premise is incorrect. Segwit only opens up new options, scales some, fixes bugs, etc.
It's just obvious, but I can understand the confusion coming out of that place.



The blockchain is not anyones private property so obviously we  have a vested interest in making it impossible or prohibitively expensive to use, you may agree with that or not but L2 solutions are not an alternative to removing the anti spam cap
hero member
Activity: 576
Merit: 503
November 25, 2016, 03:13:10 PM
#51
I still don't understand why there are some people opposed to the SegWit implementation. Isn't it something that will make the Bitcoin ecosystem better? What are the arguments against this? Could it take more than a month for the consensus to be reached?

Go into r/btc and actually experience these guys first hand.
It's like walking unaware into a room full of staunch feminists and SJW's. Every word you say is taken negatively. Every word you MIGHT say is defended against by a preemptive attack. Smiley
Quite funny.
So, after several coup attempts over a couple of years now, they have redefined english, new ways to think, etc. Like 1984.

Deep diving into all that (shudder) and translating back to normal english reveals a basic issue, I think.
They sincerely believe that segwit locks in a future where only layer 2 solutions to scaling are permitted.
So they think blocking it is a good thing.

But that premise is incorrect. Segwit only opens up new options, scales some, fixes bugs, etc.
It's just obvious, but I can understand the confusion coming out of that place.

legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1000
Si vis pacem, para bellum
November 25, 2016, 03:01:11 PM
#50
I still don't understand why there are some people opposed to the SegWit implementation. Isn't it something that will make the Bitcoin ecosystem better? What are the arguments against this? Could it take more than a month for the consensus to be reached?

segwit is like an unwanted cock in the ass that doesnt allow users to use the main chain by making it prohibitively expensive
the blocks need to be larger .the solution is that simple ........
hero member
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Merit: 500
November 25, 2016, 02:23:46 PM
#49
I still don't understand why there are some people opposed to the SegWit implementation. Isn't it something that will make the Bitcoin ecosystem better? What are the arguments against this? Could it take more than a month for the consensus to be reached?
legendary
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November 25, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
#48
If miners wanted it they would have taken it the hour it was released
This is completely and utterly false based considering the reality that we live in. Remind me again how long it took for the last Soft fork to active (that miners obviously wanted, since it's active). 1 hour?  Roll Eyes

Do you participate on r/btc by any chance?
legendary
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November 25, 2016, 02:09:54 PM
#47
So ... bitfury finally started signalling segwit correctly (rather than just in the coinbase string).
That should add about 8% to the segwit hash fraction, bringing it up to something like 28%.

Check it out here: https://btc.com/stats/pool/BitFury



Don't think it will matter much, it only takes one Chinese farm to stop Segwit.

I dont think so, ViaBTC will be forced to support Segwit when they are the last one, ore they will run out of business.

if ViaBTC is the last miner to update to 13.1, yes i agree they will yield

They won't have to yield
Segwit will be cancelled for another solution
 in  less than a year

If miners wanted it they would have taken it the hour it was released
sr. member
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November 25, 2016, 10:00:47 AM
#46
So ... bitfury finally started signalling segwit correctly (rather than just in the coinbase string).
That should add about 8% to the segwit hash fraction, bringing it up to something like 28%.

Check it out here: https://btc.com/stats/pool/BitFury



Don't think it will matter much, it only takes one Chinese farm to stop Segwit.

I dont think so, ViaBTC will be forced to support Segwit when they are the last one, ore they will run out of business.

if ViaBTC is the last miner to update to 13.1, yes i agree they will yield
legendary
Activity: 3512
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November 25, 2016, 09:35:04 AM
#45
So ... bitfury finally started signalling segwit correctly (rather than just in the coinbase string).
That should add about 8% to the segwit hash fraction, bringing it up to something like 28%.

Check it out here: https://btc.com/stats/pool/BitFury



Don't think it will matter much, it only takes one Chinese farm to stop Segwit.

I dont think so, ViaBTC will be forced to support Segwit when they are the last one, ore they will run out of business.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
November 25, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
#44
So ... bitfury finally started signalling segwit correctly (rather than just in the coinbase string).
That should add about 8% to the segwit hash fraction, bringing it up to something like 28%.

Check it out here: https://btc.com/stats/pool/BitFury



Don't think it will matter much, it only takes one Chinese farm to stop Segwit.
hero member
Activity: 576
Merit: 503
November 25, 2016, 04:03:54 AM
#43
So ... bitfury finally started signalling segwit correctly (rather than just in the coinbase string).
That should add about 8% to the segwit hash fraction, bringing it up to something like 28%.

Check it out here: https://btc.com/stats/pool/BitFury

sr. member
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November 23, 2016, 09:54:33 PM
#42
20% of hashing power currently supports segwit.
i would imagine that potential support for segwit (like this week) tops out at 30-50% ( way to many mixed feelings about segwit )
but who is this 20% hashing power supporting segwit
looking at the graph
it would seem like its two pools one of ~5% hashing power
and a monstrous pool of ~15%
http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ver9-2k.png

who are these poeple?
legendary
Activity: 2101
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November 23, 2016, 06:13:12 AM
#41
I found this http://segwit.co/


Can someone explain this in easy terms? If you run a bitcoin node to are supposed to signal segwit support? how do you do that?

edit: Why would you not support or not support it? I thought it was a no brainer. Increased capacity more efficient etc. What am I missing?

Only the miners can signal segwit through the mined blocks, your node will be counted only as a segwit node (0.13.1 bitcoin-core).


Just had a look at that link, still a way to go it seems
legendary
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#Free market
November 23, 2016, 05:51:08 AM
#40
I found this http://segwit.co/


Can someone explain this in easy terms? If you run a bitcoin node to are supposed to signal segwit support? how do you do that?

edit: Why would you not support or not support it? I thought it was a no brainer. Increased capacity more efficient etc. What am I missing?

Only the miners can signal segwit through the mined blocks, your node will be counted only as a segwit node (0.13.1 bitcoin-core).
legendary
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November 23, 2016, 05:36:10 AM
#39
Can someone explain this in easy terms? If you run a bitcoin node to are supposed to signal segwit support? how do you do that?
Upgrade to Bitcoin Core 0.13.1 and your node will automatically follow Segwit rules after(if) it activates.

Ah ok, thanks
legendary
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November 23, 2016, 05:31:42 AM
#38
Can someone explain this in easy terms? If you run a bitcoin node to are supposed to signal segwit support? how do you do that?
Upgrade to Bitcoin Core 0.13.1 and your node will automatically follow Segwit rules after(if) it activates.
legendary
Activity: 2101
Merit: 1061
November 23, 2016, 05:30:43 AM
#37
Can someone explain this in easy terms? If you run a bitcoin node to are supposed to signal segwit support? how do you do that?

edit: Why would you not support or not support it? I thought it was a no brainer. Increased capacity more efficient etc. What am I missing?
sr. member
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November 22, 2016, 07:05:09 PM
#36
Well, no. It is not 'very far behind'. It is bereft of the cruft that core has added that the BU community does not accept.
Yes, it is very far behind. There have been plenty of bugfixed and improvements between 0.12.1 and 0.13.1 (excluding those that 'BU community' does not accept).

Spin it whatever way you want, you epically missed the point of the post.

your crufty post is bereft
Lol!
legendary
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November 22, 2016, 04:19:14 PM
#35
Well, no. It is not 'very far behind'. It is bereft of the cruft that core has added that the BU community does not accept.
Yes, it is very far behind. There have been plenty of bugfixed and improvements between 0.12.1 and 0.13.1 (excluding those that 'BU community' does not accept).

Spin it whatever way you want, you epically missed the point of the post.
legendary
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Merit: 1012
November 22, 2016, 04:07:15 PM
#34
source of this graph : http://bitcoin.sipa.be/versions.html
legendary
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November 22, 2016, 12:36:43 PM
#33
Segwit support at 25% for the last 144 blocks.

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