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Topic: [New Site] WeBetCoins.com - Bet on everything! Earn bitcoins! (Read 2781 times)

full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
cool i might try this.
staff
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Merit: 1203
I support freedom of choice
Can you add something like tags or anything else to group every bets?
So players will be able to group bets under sports,politics ...
hero member
Activity: 950
Merit: 1001
Awesome, amazing, keep it up! If you guys want any grunt work done (graphics, writing, etc) I'd be happy to help, free of charge. Just PM me if interested.

What are the terms of service? I couldn't find them while browsing on my phone, and I hope that some evil stuff like "will Explodicle be assaulted tomorrow?" won't be allowed.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1076
I have red a few description of betting protocols and I'm afraid I'm not much convinced by any of them.

As far as this one is concerned, I still don't get exactly how it works.  I guess I'll have to read more.

Anyway, so far what I think about this is that a prediction market needs a clear specification of the market rules, and more precisely, a better description of the financial vehicle it involves.


Here is how I see it:

- an event should only have a Yes/No outcome (i.e. 'will happen'/'will not happen' betting possibilities)

- anyone should be able to create an event.  But the person who creates an event should also be responsible of settling it down.   Byt settling down, I mean "telling everyone wether the event occured, or not".  Such a person could be called the "referee" for this event.  The honesty of the referee should be appreciated only on a reputation based way.  Thus all referee should cryptographically sign their event descriptions.

- the bookkeeper is normally a different person from the referee.  He is basically the website admin and he earns money from his own bets and/or advertisements on the website.

- a bet should be considered as some kind of a conditional bond.  It is a promise to pay a certain amount of money in case some event happen at a certain time.   This makes it possible to follow the same financial principles than 'normal' bonds.  In particular, a bond emission is based on a auction system that determines the final winning ratio.  For instance, if a 100BTC bet that Obama will get elected on 2012 is sold at 50BTC, then the winning ratio is 200% on one side, and 50% on the other.

- As a consequence, as soon as your bet has been bought, you know exactly how much you can earn from it.

- this would allow a second market for bets.  Therefore, as times goes on and the likelihood of the event  changes, owners of bets can sell them before the event is settled, and the winning ratios get adjusted by the selling prices.  Exactly as it is for bonds.

-   The bookeeper should also act as a third party (escrow), so that he supports all credit risk associated to a bet.  For instance, in order to bet 100BTC for an event that will settle in a year, you have to pay 100BTC immediately to the bookkeeper who will hold the bitcoins until settlement.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1014
Strength in numbers
I think declarative statement form should be enforced. You can't agree or disagree with a question.

"Disagreed will win this bet" is devilish.

edit: n/m I see now you can make the answers what you want.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1076
I've been waiting and thinking about this for quite some time now.

First I have to read carefully how it does work though,  but I'm definitely interested.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
Hi xyu,

Thanks for your response.

OK, I was thinking that the house and/or host would get the stake as in Bitcoinduit.

Cancelling would work; however, is it good form for a host to bet all option to provide both a winner and starting pot.

This is mine: http://webetcoins.com/rounds/7

I did it just to get started, but I already have some better ideas and will be making more rounds.

Tanks,
n.olmos

Yeah, that's a good call.  I'll start doing that on mine when I get on the computer that has my wallet on it.  That way, people won't feel awkward about being the first to bet.
full member
Activity: 162
Merit: 100
Hi xyu,

Thanks for your response.

OK, I was thinking that the house and/or host would get the stake as in Bitcoinduit.

Cancelling would work; however, is it good form for a host to bet all options to provide both a winner and starting pot.

This is mine: http://webetcoins.com/rounds/7

I did it just to get started, but I already have some better ideas and will be making more rounds.

Thanks,
n.olmos
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
Cool site.  I like that it doesn't cost me to make statements - it's fun to come up with interesting bets, but I don't want to bet money that people will want to bet money on it.  If that makes sense.  Smiley  I've created a few statements already.

Also, this is the best statement ever:  http://webetcoins.com/rounds/10
xyu
full member
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Merit: 100
Hi xyu,

I looked but could not find it; what percentage does WeBetCoins get from each round/bet?

In a statement with more then two options and many bettors; who gets the stake if nobody selects the winning option? Is the round cancelled as stated above?

Thanks,
n.olmos


1. 3%
2. Yes, I think it should be canceled.

For now, I'm working on tagging  and adding a new type of betting wich permits the user to select a few possible outcomes. This could be useful in some scenarios, say, you want to bet on who will get through the judge's houses in the X Factor  Smiley, obviously there could be variety of combinations of the contestants and current scheme with only one possible outcome won't work.
Does anyone one know the right terminology for this type of betting?
full member
Activity: 162
Merit: 100
Hi xyu,

I looked but could not find it; what percentage does WeBetCoins get from each round/bet?

In a statement with more then two options and many bettors; who gets the stake if nobody selects the winning option? Is the round cancelled as stated above?

Thanks,
n.olmos
xyu
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
How much can a bet earn?

I added a percentage of expected return besides each outcome of the event, so now you can see your odds. For now, the most profitable bet could be this one - http://webetcoins.com/rounds/2  Smiley

xyu
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Now that a statement has ended, what can I do to post it's results?

Once the statement has ended it will be reviewed and if everything is OK all winning bets will receive their rewards in one day.
But, statement can be canceled if:
  • The outcome of the statement couldn't be determined
  • The statement received no bets
  • The statement has huge disproportion in the bets (for instance if 9 bets were made on the Outcome A, and 1 on Outcome B, and the Outcome A is the real outcome of this event
  • Statement has bets only on one outcome
In all this cases all deposits will be returned.
member
Activity: 103
Merit: 10
Now that a statement has ended, what can I do to post it's results?
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002
Interesting idea, I am going to add some events.
full member
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How much can a bet earn?
xyu
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Works Smiley

Will the fees be paid to the address you make your bet as the creator of the statement?

Nope, I'll add withdrawing option on the profile page (I think I'll make it within a couple of days).  Currently you can't withdraw bitcoins.
member
Activity: 103
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Works Smiley

Will the fees be paid to the address you make your bet as the creator of the statement?
xyu
full member
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Merit: 100
I registered, but can't access my account page, I get an internal server error.

Oh, yeah. I made some changes a before rolling out this site and forget to test some things =). It should work now.
member
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I registered, but can't access my account page, I get an internal server error.
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