NEW Specification LEAKS Jasminer X16-P (5535MH)

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Quote from: mineshop.eu on August 30, 2023, 08:32:30 AM

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I prefer not to complicate the mining and not contact the liquid, unless absolutely necessary. At certain points, liquid cooling allows you to overclock old ASICs very strongly and earn profit at an inexpensive price of electricity. But when liquid cooling increases costs and does not increase hashrate, then it is better to refuse it.

Also another reason would be for retailers , if want to mine from home garage to get rid of noise and get some heat in winter...ha

When the miner calculates the costs of communications and heating from mining, then most likely he will choose a good option for soundproofing the garage in winter. With such a system, you need to be a good plumber and electrician at the same time, because you will have to do a lot of things yourself. Otherwise it will be very expensive.

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I prefer not to complicate the mining and not contact the liquid, unless absolutely necessary. At certain points, liquid cooling allows you to overclock old ASICs very strongly and earn profit at an inexpensive price of electricity. But when liquid cooling increases costs and does not increase hashrate, then it is better to refuse it.

Also another reason would be for retailers , if want to mine from home garage to get rid of noise and get some heat in winter...ha

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Quote from: arielbit on July 29, 2023, 12:48:25 PM

Quote from: FP91G on July 28, 2023, 01:31:15 PM

Quote from: mineshop.eu on July 28, 2023, 09:07:32 AM

Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2023, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: fmz89 on July 13, 2023, 10:04:42 AM

i would stay with scrypt/sha256 miner, the coins has support was quite enough to handle many miner compared ethash miner which is barely life
when seeing profitable fact is not eye candy number while this thing not even came out, imagine hit full market spread, the diff gonna hit roof and leaving big block of mineral Grin

I would look at the profit, and for mining Ethereum classic there are very quiet ASICs that can be used in a house or apartment. Asics for bitcoin mining are completely unsuitable for home mining today and I have not seen quiet models for a long time.

What about the Hydro miner , of course the extra cost on Cooling radiator what will increase ROI.
But might suit in winter time to heat the house

https://mineshop.eu/water-cooling-series-water-cooling-radiator/

I think that this radiator will only increase the payback period of mining equipment

For this price, I can make a bath for 4 or more ASICs

and send warm air into the house with a fan and a car radiator. It is cheaper to use an ASIC in a noise box at home.

You can go fanless, bigger radiator(truck radiator), metal tank undergroud(naturally cool), water pump 24/7 operation to circulate water.

I prefer not to complicate the mining and not contact the liquid, unless absolutely necessary. At certain points, liquid cooling allows you to overclock old ASICs very strongly and earn profit at an inexpensive price of electricity. But when liquid cooling increases costs and does not increase hashrate, then it is better to refuse it.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 28, 2023, 01:31:15 PM

Quote from: mineshop.eu on July 28, 2023, 09:07:32 AM

Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2023, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: fmz89 on July 13, 2023, 10:04:42 AM

i would stay with scrypt/sha256 miner, the coins has support was quite enough to handle many miner compared ethash miner which is barely life
when seeing profitable fact is not eye candy number while this thing not even came out, imagine hit full market spread, the diff gonna hit roof and leaving big block of mineral Grin

I would look at the profit, and for mining Ethereum classic there are very quiet ASICs that can be used in a house or apartment. Asics for bitcoin mining are completely unsuitable for home mining today and I have not seen quiet models for a long time.

What about the Hydro miner , of course the extra cost on Cooling radiator what will increase ROI.
But might suit in winter time to heat the house

https://mineshop.eu/water-cooling-series-water-cooling-radiator/

I think that this radiator will only increase the payback period of mining equipment

For this price, I can make a bath for 4 or more ASICs

and send warm air into the house with a fan and a car radiator. It is cheaper to use an ASIC in a noise box at home.

You can go fanless, bigger radiator(truck radiator), metal tank undergroud(naturally cool), water pump 24/7 operation to circulate water.

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Quote from: mineshop.eu on July 28, 2023, 09:07:32 AM

Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2023, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: fmz89 on July 13, 2023, 10:04:42 AM

i would stay with scrypt/sha256 miner, the coins has support was quite enough to handle many miner compared ethash miner which is barely life
when seeing profitable fact is not eye candy number while this thing not even came out, imagine hit full market spread, the diff gonna hit roof and leaving big block of mineral Grin

I would look at the profit, and for mining Ethereum classic there are very quiet ASICs that can be used in a house or apartment. Asics for bitcoin mining are completely unsuitable for home mining today and I have not seen quiet models for a long time.

What about the Hydro miner , of course the extra cost on Cooling radiator what will increase ROI.
But might suit in winter time to heat the house

https://mineshop.eu/water-cooling-series-water-cooling-radiator/

I think that this radiator will only increase the payback period of mining equipment

For this price, I can make a bath for 4 or more ASICs

and send warm air into the house with a fan and a car radiator. It is cheaper to use an ASIC in a noise box at home.

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Quote from: FP91G on July 13, 2023, 03:13:42 PM

Quote from: fmz89 on July 13, 2023, 10:04:42 AM

i would stay with scrypt/sha256 miner, the coins has support was quite enough to handle many miner compared ethash miner which is barely life
when seeing profitable fact is not eye candy number while this thing not even came out, imagine hit full market spread, the diff gonna hit roof and leaving big block of mineral Grin

I would look at the profit, and for mining Ethereum classic there are very quiet ASICs that can be used in a house or apartment. Asics for bitcoin mining are completely unsuitable for home mining today and I have not seen quiet models for a long time.

What about the Hydro miner , of course the extra cost on Cooling radiator what will increase ROI.
But might suit in winter time to heat the house

https://mineshop.eu/water-cooling-series-water-cooling-radiator/

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Quote from: fmz89 on July 13, 2023, 10:04:42 AM

i would stay with scrypt/sha256 miner, the coins has support was quite enough to handle many miner compared ethash miner which is barely life
when seeing profitable fact is not eye candy number while this thing not even came out, imagine hit full market spread, the diff gonna hit roof and leaving big block of mineral Grin

I would look at the profit, and for mining Ethereum classic there are very quiet ASICs that can be used in a house or apartment. Asics for bitcoin mining are completely unsuitable for home mining today and I have not seen quiet models for a long time.

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i would stay with scrypt/sha256 miner, the coins has support was quite enough to handle many miner compared ethash miner which is barely life
when seeing profitable fact is not eye candy number while this thing not even came out, imagine hit full market spread, the diff gonna hit roof and leaving big block of mineral Grin

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Quote from: mineshop.eu on July 03, 2023, 05:22:12 AM

Quote from: FP91G on June 23, 2023, 01:08:37 PM

With KAs miner, I need to do the calculations, but why order a new ASIC and wait for delivery, if you can mine on old ASICs now? After the launch of new ASICs, the complexity of the network should increase. In terms of energy efficiency, a new ASIC is not much better than three old ones, but in 3 months 3 old ASICs will give $ 900 profit. I consider the electricity tariff at 5 cents.

Newer Asics for new coins are the most riskiest indeed.
The higher the risk the higher potential rewards or loss.
If i had to choose which asics to mine, my biggest bet is Litecoin miners and Bitcoin miners. Not a big gambler

This ASIC is made for only one coin - Кaspa. But the Jasminer X16P asic will also mine one coin - Ethereum classic, the rest of the coins are very weak. I have always chosen mining variability, and this is the purchase of video cards. Of the ASICs, I don’t like anything today. Maybe it will pass in a year, when GPU mining finally dies. But we still hope for a profit

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Quote from: FP91G on June 23, 2023, 01:08:37 PM

With KAs miner, I need to do the calculations, but why order a new ASIC and wait for delivery, if you can mine on old ASICs now? After the launch of new ASICs, the complexity of the network should increase. In terms of energy efficiency, a new ASIC is not much better than three old ones, but in 3 months 3 old ASICs will give $ 900 profit. I consider the electricity tariff at 5 cents.

Newer Asics for new coins are the most riskiest indeed.
The higher the risk the higher potential rewards or loss.
If i had to choose which asics to mine, my biggest bet is Litecoin miners and Bitcoin miners. Not a big gambler

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With KAs miner, I need to do the calculations, but why order a new ASIC and wait for delivery, if you can mine on old ASICs now? After the launch of new ASICs, the complexity of the network should increase. In terms of energy efficiency, a new ASIC is not much better than three old ones, but in 3 months 3 old ASICs will give $ 900 profit. I consider the electricity tariff at 5 cents.

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Quote from: batsonxl on June 17, 2023, 10:19:54 PM

Quote from: FP91G on June 14, 2023, 03:21:45 PM

Quote from: batsonxl on June 14, 2023, 12:13:07 PM

5.3ghz just one unit ethash for gpus is dead.what next? 10ghz for one unit? But idont care because i believe there will be new algo for gpus better than this.damn asic manufucktures.sorry for bad words.

Buy 2 asics and get 11000MH/s ,3800W Grin

These characteristics look good against the background of consumption by modern asics for bitcoin.
What coin besides Ethereum Classic will be profitable to mine on this ASIC?
I don't understand what kind of coins these asics are made for.

People still believe in ethash algo thats why maybe these asics are still producing. With 5.5ghz for one unit there no chance for gpus here anymore.even you have army of 3080 and 3090.ethash end bye bye rest in piece.

Look at this
JASMINER X16-Q 1950MH 620w € 3,449.99
https://mineshop.eu/jasminer-x16-q-1845mh-630w/

3xJASMINER X16-Q =5535mh 1890w € 10 500

1xJasminer X16P 5800 mh 1900w 0.32j/mh € 9 200
https://mineshop.eu/jasminer-ethereum-miner/

That is, we get a 14% discount for the bulk purchase of 3 X16-Q ASICs.
I look at this and think that ASIC manufacturers are deceiving me, because they put 3 ASICs in 1 box Grin

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Quote from: FP91G on June 14, 2023, 03:21:45 PM

Quote from: batsonxl on June 14, 2023, 12:13:07 PM

5.3ghz just one unit ethash for gpus is dead.what next? 10ghz for one unit? But idont care because i believe there will be new algo for gpus better than this.damn asic manufucktures.sorry for bad words.

Buy 2 asics and get 11000MH/s ,3800W Grin

These characteristics look good against the background of consumption by modern asics for bitcoin.
What coin besides Ethereum Classic will be profitable to mine on this ASIC?
I don't understand what kind of coins these asics are made for.

People still believe in ethash algo thats why maybe these asics are still producing. With 5.5ghz for one unit there no chance for gpus here anymore.even you have army of 3080 and 3090.ethash end bye bye rest in piece.

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Quote from: batsonxl on June 14, 2023, 12:13:07 PM

5.3ghz just one unit ethash for gpus is dead.what next? 10ghz for one unit? But idont care because i believe there will be new algo for gpus better than this.damn asic manufucktures.sorry for bad words.

Buy 2 asics and get 11000MH/s ,3800W Grin

These characteristics look good against the background of consumption by modern asics for bitcoin.
What coin besides Ethereum Classic will be profitable to mine on this ASIC?
I don't understand what kind of coins these asics are made for.

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5.3ghz just one unit ethash for gpus is dead.what next? 10ghz for one unit? But idont care because i believe there will be new algo for gpus better than this.damn asic manufucktures.sorry for bad words.

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Quote from: mineshop.eu on June 12, 2023, 09:03:19 AM

Exactly , my own take Asics are the only way to go currently after ETH merge. Litecoin and Bitcoin also my choice just because they are one of the oldest POW coins to mine, meaning ASIC development is so far ahead on these as new miner releases wont be as much as efficient as it would be on some newer altcoins.
Ethash also good mining Algorithm but there is no good coins to mine with it.

Halvings are coming soon, first for Litecoin, then for Bitcoin. Ethash may be a good algorithm for mining and projects, but this algorithm was invented specifically in order to exclude the mining of coins using ASICs. If you follow the tradition, then the algorithm needs to be changed again in order to remove ASICs from it.

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Quote from: FP91G on June 09, 2023, 09:11:28 AM

Asic with characteristics 5500MH/s, 1900W in August against the well-known model on the market E9 Pro 3680MH/s, 2200W.
I think Bitmain will lower ASIC prices in August or release a new model for the Ethash algorithm at the end of the year. It's good that such ASICs did not appear during Ethereum's iining.

Feeling the Jasminer might make us age like fine wine before we see ROI, huh? 😄
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ASICs for Ethash algorithms have several big problems. There are no good coins on this algorithm, and if the ethereum classic dies, then the asics will be useless. Bitmain will gladly trip up its competitors. I would buy asics for bitcoin or litecoin mining.
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Exactly , my own take Asics are the only way to go currently after ETH merge. Litecoin and Bitcoin also my choice just because they are one of the oldest POW coins to mine, meaning ASIC development is so far ahead on these as new miner releases wont be as much as efficient as it would be on some newer altcoins.
Ethash also good mining Algorithm but there is no good coins to mine with it.

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Quote from: batsonxl on June 10, 2023, 02:21:35 PM

So etc must be cheap always so these asic will make 10-20bucks a day Grin

You are wrong in your calculations. Jasminer X16-P has not been added yet, but even if he was mining today, the profit was not more than 7 dollars per day, with an electricity cost of 5 cents.
https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-e9-pro-3-68gh
But the launch of new asics will reduce the profit and increase the difficulty of mining.

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So etc must be cheap always so these asic will make 10-20bucks a day Grin

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Quote from: mineshop.eu on June 09, 2023, 09:44:27 AM

Quote from: FP91G on June 09, 2023, 09:11:28 AM

Asic with characteristics 5500MH/s, 1900W in August against the well-known model on the market E9 Pro 3680MH/s, 2200W.
I think Bitmain will lower ASIC prices in August or release a new model for the Ethash algorithm at the end of the year. It's good that such ASICs did not appear during Ethereum's iining.

Feeling the Jasminer might make us age like fine wine before we see ROI, huh? 😄

ASICs for Ethash algorithms have several big problems. There are no good coins on this algorithm, and if the ethereum classic dies, then the asics will be useless. Bitmain will gladly trip up its competitors. I would buy asics for bitcoin or litecoin mining.

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