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full member
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April 26, 2015, 06:30:36 AM
#46

there's a difference between an MLM and a ponzi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

as it seems to me, this is a MLM scheme
however, any sort of product should be introduced so there's actually something you sell instead of just a membership Cheesy
like an e-book or something

though, I don't have anything against ponzis as long as everyone investing knows what it is and how it works

At last, a well thought through answer!

You are truly a valuable asset to the Bitcoin Community.

Thank you,

H
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
April 06, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
#45
I think you should review your site ponzi. It's really not good for invesment.

You also think about a opportunity cost if someone intented to invest into your site.
Not a ponzi.

Denying the fact a hundred times does not make it any more legit.

You can use a different name for whatever it is - you can call it
- Investor-based scheme
- Pyramid scheme
- Gambling
-

But in the end the fact remains same - old investors get paid from new investor's money.
IT IS A PONZI.


there's a difference between an MLM and a ponzi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

as it seems to me, this is a MLM scheme
however, any sort of product should be introduced so there's actually something you sell instead of just a membership Cheesy
like an e-book or something

though, I don't have anything against ponzis as long as everyone investing knows what it is and how it works
sgk
legendary
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Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
April 06, 2015, 12:56:39 AM
#44
I think you should review your site ponzi. It's really not good for invesment.

You also think about a opportunity cost if someone intented to invest into your site.
Not a ponzi.

Denying the fact a hundred times does not make it any more legit.

You can use a different name for whatever it is - you can call it
- Investor-based scheme
- Pyramid scheme
- Gambling
-

But in the end the fact remains same - old investors get paid from new investor's money.
IT IS A PONZI.
sr. member
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April 05, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
#43
I believe by definition this is a pyramid scheme, and not a ponzi. It may also be a scam, but that cannot be verified unless the source code is looked at. This would only be a scam if microzee received all the money. Since he says many times that he is willing to provide source code, I would like to take a look at that source.
legendary
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April 05, 2015, 08:20:09 PM
#42
Again with the same old story, really want to believe that is not a Ponzi?. That so far has not shown otherwise, when you do i think of into your web, now no thanks.

I recommend you read the following article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
newbie
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April 05, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
#41
I think you should review your site ponzi. It's really not good for invesment.

You also think about a opportunity cost if someone intented to invest into your site.
Not a ponzi.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 28, 2015, 07:43:10 PM
#40
I think you should review your site ponzi. It's really not good for invesment.

You also think about a opportunity cost if someone intented to invest into your site.
newbie
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March 27, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
#39
Everyone in this thread just looks at it and says it looks kinda like a ponzi so I guess it is.
First off it's not a ponzi.

I was talking as someone else. Bob comes to my thread and says "It looks like a ponzi so I guess it is." Better?
sr. member
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March 27, 2015, 09:57:32 AM
#38
Everyone in this thread just looks at it and says it looks kinda like a ponzi so I guess it is.
First off it's not a ponzi.
sgk
legendary
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March 27, 2015, 08:01:57 AM
#37
I am not trying to run a scam. If you sign up 4, and each of your 4 sign up four, you receive the bracket money from a total of 16 people. 16 * .001 is .016.

After that you cannot make any more bitcoin without purchasing another bracket.

And if you bought 4000 brackets, you would lose 1 btc. Because I don't think you know 4000 people that you could refer.

OK then, let's discuss this.

What do you offer to people in exchange to their Bitcoins?
I know you offer 'brackets', but what value do these brackets have? What should I do with them apart from luring others to join this ponzi scheme?
legendary
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March 27, 2015, 08:00:49 AM
#36
OP the more you try to convince people that this is not a pyramid scheme, the more you make a fool out of yourself. If you want your negative trust removed, close it down and move on. Otherwise, quit trying to make other believe that this is not a pyramid scheme and move your topic to the Investor-based games board.
newbie
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March 27, 2015, 07:51:09 AM
#35
Vod requires you contact him only after 1 month of cool down period.
Noting that Vod gave him negative trust on 26th March, OP needs to wait until 26th April before contacting Vod.

Also OP needs to stay away from his ponzi during this period, which I think won't happen.

I'm willing to remove negative feedback sooner, but in this case the OP won't even admit they are trying to scam, much less take the scam offline.

They want everyone to believe I could buy 4,000 "brackets" for 1btc (0.001 each four) and earn a return of 16btc (0.016 each four)

1btc to 16btc   Huh

If the OP could do this, he would be on his own private island, not trying to scam fractions of bitcoins from other users.

I am not trying to run a scam. If you sign up 4, and each of your 4 sign up four, you receive the bracket money from a total of 16 people. 16 * .001 is .016.

After that you cannot make any more bitcoin without purchasing another bracket.

And if you bought 4000 brackets, you would lose 1 btc. Because I don't think you know 4000 people that you could refer.
Vod
legendary
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March 27, 2015, 03:31:06 AM
#34
Vod requires you contact him only after 1 month of cool down period.
Noting that Vod gave him negative trust on 26th March, OP needs to wait until 26th April before contacting Vod.

Also OP needs to stay away from his ponzi during this period, which I think won't happen.

I'm willing to remove negative feedback sooner, but in this case the OP won't even admit they are trying to scam, much less take the scam offline.

They want everyone to believe I could buy 4,000 "brackets" for 1btc (0.001 each four) and earn a return of 16btc (0.016 each four)

1btc to 16btc   Huh

If the OP could do this, he would be on his own private island, not trying to scam fractions of bitcoins from other users.
sgk
legendary
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March 27, 2015, 01:57:30 AM
#33
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/want-to-get-your-negative-trust-removed-887515

Contact Vod, he'll probably ask you to close down what he called a ponzi

By the way, if you have a web designing portfolio, I could do a good deed and help you find a job. But you having ran a pyramid scheme isn't an advantage.

Vod requires you contact him only after 1 month of cool down period.
Noting that Vod gave him negative trust on 26th March, OP needs to wait until 26th April before contacting Vod.

Also OP needs to stay away from his ponzi during this period, which I think won't happen.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 27, 2015, 12:41:48 AM
#32
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/want-to-get-your-negative-trust-removed-887515

Contact Vod, he'll probably ask you to close down what he called a ponzi

By the way, if you have a web designing portfolio, I could do a good deed and help you find a job. But you having ran a pyramid scheme isn't an advantage.

But I believe in what I have made here. I don't see it as a pyramid scheme. I could always get a new identity, but no, I don't have a portfolio put together.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 27, 2015, 12:38:06 AM
#31
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/want-to-get-your-negative-trust-removed-887515

Contact Vod, he'll probably ask you to close down what he called a ponzi

By the way, if you have a web designing portfolio, I could do a good deed and help you find a job. But you having ran a pyramid scheme isn't an advantage.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 27, 2015, 12:34:00 AM
#30
Welp, good luck whatever you do... But my sugestion would be for you to work on something else because to me this seems like a waste of time to me.

Thank you for being cordial. If you are looking to hire just let me know Tongue

Anyway for you to get rid of my negative trust? Or does it have to be Vod? He would never remove it because he's set on this is a ponzi.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
March 27, 2015, 12:21:55 AM
#29
Welp, good luck whatever you do... But my sugestion would be for you to work on something else because to me this seems like a waste of time to me.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 27, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
#28
First off it's not a ponzi. Second, I am not stealing anything and cannot steal anything. The bitcoin goes directly user to user. There are no deposits paying off old deposits because you're paying other users, and not "paying off" anything. Thank you for the negative trust, I really appreciate it.


Cloudflare is currently under maintenance, so in the meantime you'll have to use the alternative domain

http://bitcoinmatrix.x10host.com

Let me get some things clear, If I wanted to be a beta tester for your website I'd have to buy brackets. Those would allow me to get paid by the users that I referred. Ok well, you're right it's not a ponzi, it looks like a pyramid scheme. If you think that it's a great and unique idea you're wrong. You're wasting your time trying to promote this.

If you're good at web design, try providing a service or creating something unique.

Obligatory to add an image from your website here..

Also, this is how you look right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a231RLKyfPw

I realize that this idea is not unique. But It is unique to bitcoin (I think). I also realize that most websites like this are actually scams, so I was trying to create a website that wasn't a scam and you really could make bitcoin referring users.

The brackets allow users to sign up underneath you. If they were to type in your username as their referrer when registering, and you had no brackets, It would give them a message: This user has no open brackets please find someone else.

Thank you for that video. I will learn from it and work on my presentation. Also, I am going to be changing the brackets to .001 which is equivalent to about 25 cents so you guys can test it out and see that you don't lose anything.
legendary
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March 26, 2015, 11:44:16 PM
#27
First off it's not a ponzi. Second, I am not stealing anything and cannot steal anything. The bitcoin goes directly user to user. There are no deposits paying off old deposits because you're paying other users, and not "paying off" anything. Thank you for the negative trust, I really appreciate it.


Cloudflare is currently under maintenance, so in the meantime you'll have to use the alternative domain

http://bitcoinmatrix.x10host.com

Let me get some things clear, If I wanted to be a beta tester for your website I'd have to buy brackets. Those would allow me to get paid by the users that I referred. Ok well, you're right it's not a ponzi, it looks like a pyramid scheme. If you think that it's a great and unique idea you're wrong. You're wasting your time trying to promote this.

If you're good at web design, try providing a service or creating something unique.

Obligatory to add an image from your website here..


Also, this is how you look right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a231RLKyfPw
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