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legendary
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I think he is saying, that all the ugly nerds sitting at this table are involved in cryonics together with the guy from Grateful Dead and they are all Satoshi Nakamoto, right Bruno?

Well now, I'm starting to get really confused. One of them could possibly be Satoshi Nakamoto? I don't think so. Again the same question, why is cryonics involved in this kind of discussion on finding who is the person behind Satoshi?


It is not involved, I think they are talking about Hal Finney but this is not related with Nick Szabo (the one in the image) and neither Satoshi Nakamoto ...

Haha Bruno has always long stretching theories but there's always some links to back it up with, he is a deep-digger.

And ofcourse Hal Finney is related, he was the receiver of the very first Bitcoin transaction. It must have been a way to honor him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(cypherpunk)

With this in mind I do not think Hal Finney is/was Satoshi because he would not send coins to himself.
legendary
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I think he is saying, that all the ugly nerds sitting at this table are involved in cryonics together with the guy from Grateful Dead and they are all Satoshi Nakamoto, right Bruno?

Well now, I'm starting to get really confused. One of them could possibly be Satoshi Nakamoto? I don't think so. Again the same question, why is cryonics involved in this kind of discussion on finding who is the person behind Satoshi?


It is not involved, I think they are talking about Hal Finney but this is not related with Nick Szabo (the one in the image) and neither Satoshi Nakamoto ...

I know Hal Finney's body is cryopreserved, and at some point, people thought that Hal Finney is Satoshi himself. Okay I'm getting the picture now. Smiley
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What if he is Nicolas van Saberhagen. Mind you this is a compliment, cryptonote is superior.
legendary
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#Free market
I think he is saying, that all the ugly nerds sitting at this table are involved in cryonics together with the guy from Grateful Dead and they are all Satoshi Nakamoto, right Bruno?

Well now, I'm starting to get really confused. One of them could possibly be Satoshi Nakamoto? I don't think so. Again the same question, why is cryonics involved in this kind of discussion on finding who is the person behind Satoshi?


It is not involved, I think they are talking about Hal Finney but this is not related with Nick Szabo (the one in the image) and neither Satoshi Nakamoto ...
legendary
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I think he is saying, that all the ugly nerds sitting at this table are involved in cryonics together with the guy from Grateful Dead and they are all Satoshi Nakamoto, right Bruno?

Well now, I'm starting to get really confused. One of them could possibly be Satoshi Nakamoto? I don't think so. Again the same question, why is cryonics involved in this kind of discussion on finding who is the person behind Satoshi?

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Because most of Bitcoin's forefathers want to be Popsicles®.


lol
vip
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http://borg.uu3.net/ldetweil/medusa/cypherpunks/bigmacs/apology

Wait wait wait, I already lost track of the discussion. Why is cryonics involved in the discussion of Satoshi Nakamoto = Nick Szabo? I'm getting confused now. Huh

Because Hal Finney was cryonized (is that the right word?). That and fridge logic.

Because most of Bitcoin's forefathers want to be Popsicles®.

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I think he is saying, that all the ugly nerds sitting at this table are involved in cryonics together with the guy from Grateful Dead and they are all Satoshi Nakamoto, right Bruno?

Nailed it, like a coffin.

http://borg.uu3.net/ldetweil/medusa/cypherpunks/bigmacs/apology

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I am sorry to have upset anyone who has ever watched this mailing list.
I was continually prodding you to discover the truth, but there was
nothing to discover! I  kept telling you to send mail to your leaders
yourself, to put pressure on them to reveal their knowledge, to
investigate the claims of reality of identity that were extremely
suspicious, and follow up past inert, passive, lifeless viewing of the
text that scrolls by your faces and hypnotizes you daily, more
mesmerizing and psychologically dangerous and deadly than television!
But we all know that this was a delusion now, a faded dream. The list
is our outlet to reach out to other real people, to make friends, to
achieve grand goals. As the leaders reassure us, upon their honor as
patriot Cryptoanarchists and honest human beings, there are no fake
identities anywhere in all of cyberspace, and on the Cypherpunks list
in particular! All my past claims are nothing but bizarre, wretched,
pathetic, deluded fantasies and hallucinations. In psychology, it is
called `projection'.
AGD
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Wait wait wait, I already lost track of the discussion. Why is cryonics involved in the discussion of Satoshi Nakamoto = Nick Szabo? I'm getting confused now. Huh

Because Hal Finney was cryonized (is that the right word?). That and fridge logic.
legendary
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I think satoshi is probably more than one person but Nick could very well be involved  (is that even his real name as well?)

This all seems very illuminati like with how they are having secret meeting without anyone knowing.

A secret meeting where they post a picture of it? Not very secret. I'm sure the event was publicly known as well.
vip
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Another poor guy

Does it really matter who invented fire  Roll Eyes



Og: What you got there, Max?
Max: I invented fire.
Og: Aren't you the guy who changed his name and runs that cryonic lab with your fringe sect at Caveapolis over yonder?
Max: Maybe.
Og: Hey, everybody, look at my memememe!



Max:
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You, too, could join the party - the Extropaganza Maximum! Just remember, when you get there, that it's ... right hand out in front of you, fingers spread and pointing at the sky. Grasp the other person's right hand, intertwine fingers, and close.

Then zoom your hand up, straight up, all the way up!

Upward! Outward!

To the moon!

I'm leaning toward the blockchain being an experiment in developing a mechanism for the transfer of information over and beyond money, smart contracts, etc.: DNA, et al.

yep was always my 'bet' if it survives as a mechanism the price of BTC will follow..looked at it that way from day one

in my newbie youth...
legendary
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Another poor guy

Does it really matter who invented fire  Roll Eyes



I guess it does.... Most countries want to know, that this is not a big N$A wack job... or a big hidden conspiracy to dominate digital money.

It's not as if they did not try it before... Eg.. The backdoor they created on hardware, like Cisco routers.  Sad

If the inventor or creator of Bitcoin was known, a lot of countries would have most probably already adopted it as a currency.

The clandestine nature of the currency, created it's own bumps in the road towards success. A public global team, with a joint goal of creating a transparent digital currency, would have been more successfull from the start, in my opinion.

Just read all the discussions on those old Bulletin boards and you would know what I am saying...   Wink
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You, too, could join the party - the Extropaganza Maximum! Just remember, when you get there, that it's ... right hand out in front of you, fingers spread and pointing at the sky. Grasp the other person's right hand, intertwine fingers, and close.

Then zoom your hand up, straight up, all the way up!

Upward! Outward!

To the moon!

I'm leaning toward the blockchain being an experiment in developing a mechanism for the transfer of information over and beyond money, smart contracts, etc.: DNA, et al.
legendary
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..like bright metal on a sullen ground.
http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/extropians.html?pg=5&topic=

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Is it possible that Tom Morrow aka T.0.Morrow penned the nym Satoshi Nakamoto?

Nick Szabo on learning from the Japanese


And learning Japanese:

"Au contrair!  Tongue twisters, palindromes, etc. are very good and fun
for practicing my Nihongo and when I get them right, it gets my confidence
up!  Can we have more please?
--
Nick Szabo"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.lang.japan/JYgfT8jNqw0

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Proper noun
Nihongo

     1. the Japanese language

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nihongo
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http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/extropians.html?pg=5&topic=

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Along the way there was an attempt to create a nomenclature that lived up to Extropian doctrine. And why not? This was a total philosophy, and so it deserved its own proprietary rhetoric. Soon a whole panoply of extropically flavored neologisms had sprung into existence: Extropia (coined by Tom Morrow), a community embodying Extropian values; Extropolis (from Max More), an Extropian city located in space; extropiate (from Dave Krieger), any drug having extropic effects. There was smart-faced (from Russell Whitaker), "the condition resulting from social-use extropiates: 'Let's get smart-faced.'" And there was the instantly-memorable disasturbation (another Dave Krieger invention), "idly fantasizing about possible catastrophes (ecological collapse, full-blown totalitarianism) without considering their likelihood or considering their possible solutions/preventions."

Further along there was a concerted attempt to flesh out the Extropian dream. Tom Morrow, the Extropian legal theorist, wrote articles about "privately produced law," showing how systems of rules can and do arise spontaneously from voluntary transactions among free agents, without the assistance of Mother Government. He also wrote about "Free Oceana," a proposed community of Extropians living on artificial islands floating around on the high seas.

Is it possible that Tom Morrow aka T.0.Morrow penned the nym Satoshi Nakamoto?

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...And in a short time, Extropianism seemed to have acquired all the trappings of a major cultural phenomenon, with a succession of parties, weekly lunches, T-shirts ("Forward! Upward! Outward!"), and even an Extropian "nerd house," called Nextropia, in Cupertino.

Operated by Romana Machado, the aforementioned "Mistress Romana" who in real life works in the Newton division of Apple Computer (she's also the inventor of Stego, a program that compliments traditional encryption schemes - see "Security Through Obscurity," Wired 2.03, page 29), Nextropia is an Extropian boarding house, a community of friends. Just don't call it a "commune."

Who lived there?

Romana Machado - Geoff Dale - David Gordon - Nick Szabo - Russell Whitaker

  Shocked
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i have heard many stories about who is satoshi nakamoto and many people also claim that they were satoshi nakamoto
but i think most of it are not true
vip
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Wait....
I am a little bit confused.
I thought Nick Szabo was a pseudonym...
You guys are now saying it's a real name?

Yes, that's what they're saying. They also have a photo above proving that Greg Maxwell is a former roadie for Crosby, Stills & Nash. It may be Maxwell in the rear left of this image but the face is cut off.



He got the roadie gig because he's the bastard child of Jerry Garcia (humor at the expense of Greg's mother).  Grin



You, who choose to lead, must follow
But if you fall you fall alone.
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home.

No wonder! I just thought there were no barbers in his local area. lol

Today in History: Google is fucking with me!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Perry_Barlow

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John Perry Barlow (born October 3, 1947) is an American poet and essayist, a retired Wyoming cattle rancher, and a cyberlibertarian[1] political activist who has been associated with both the Democratic and Republican parties. He is also a former lyricist for the Grateful Dead and a founding member of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Freedom of the Press Foundation. Since May 1998, he has been a Fellow at Harvard University's Berkman Center for Internet and Society. He has been identified by Time magazine as one of the "School of Rock: 10 Supersmart Musicians".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muUklk8pTCE



Who else was in that movie?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114597/



http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5725747/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

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Dr. Max More is an internationally acclaimed strategic philosopher widely recognized for his thinking on the philosophical and cultural implications of emerging technologies. Max's contributions include founding the philosophy of transhumanism, authoring the transhumanist philosophy of extropy, and co-founding Extropy Institute, an organization crucial in building the transhumanist movement since 1990. Since the start of 2011, he has served as President and CEO of the Alcor Life Extension Foundation, the world's leading cryonics organization.

Over the past two decades, Max has been concerned that our escalating technological capabilities are racing far ahead of our standard ways of thinking about future possibilities. Through a highly interdisciplinary approach drawing on philosophy, economics, cognitive and social psychology, and management theory, Max developed a distinctive approach known as the "Proactionary Principle"-a tool for making smarter decisions about advanced technologies by minimizing the dangers of progress and maximizing the benefits.

Max has a degree in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics from St. Anne's College, Oxford University (1984-87). He was awarded a Dean's Fellowship in Philosophy in 1987 by the University of Southern California and received his PhD in Philosophy from USC in 1995.

"We have a dreadful shortage of people who know so much, can both think so boldly and clearly, and can express themselves so articulately. Carl Sagan managed to capture the public eye but Sagan is gone and has not been replaced. I see Max as my candidate for that post." (Marvin Minsky)

And I'll call down thunder and speak the same and my work fills the
sky with flame
and might and glory gonna be my name and men gonna light my way.

http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/2014-August/082585.html

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[ExI] Hal Finney being cryopreserved now

Max More max at maxmore.com
Thu Aug 28 18:41:54 UTC 2014
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I am both sad and happy to tell you that long-time Extropy
Institute/Extropy magazine/Extropy chat list member -- and honored
cypherpunk and Bitcoin pioneer – was declared clinically dead this morning
and is now being cryopreserved.



Hal was diagnosed with ALS five years ago. He made it clear that once he
lost the ability to communicate, he did not want his vital functions
supported any further but should be allowed to cease functioning and
promptly be cryopreserved. Hal and Fran Finney arrived in Scottsdale,
Arizona on Tuesday where he was checked into ICU of a hospital near Alcor.
After administration of drugs to ensure no consciousness, his ventilator
was removed. Although the doctors expected all breathing to cease within an
hour, Hal’s body kept going until shortly before 9:00 am this morning,
August 28, 2014.



Immediately after pronouncement of legal death, Alcor’s standby team went
into action, restoring circulation, ventilation, administering an array of
medications, and initiating external cooling. Surgery is currently underway
to enable us to replace Hal’s blood and interstitial fluids with
cryoprotectant. Once perfusion is finished we will be able to plunge Hal’s
temperature down past the freezing point without any significant ice
formation. Once he is down to around -110 degC we will slow cooling and
take a couple more days to reach the final storage temperature of -196
degC. After that, Hal will be placed in long-term storage and cared for
until the day when repair and revival may be possible.



Hal’s wife, Fran (also an Alcor member) has stayed by Hal’s side throughout
and is observing our procedures firsthand.



Since Hal is open about his Alcor membership and said that he would be
happy for us to tell people about his choice if it might be good for
cryonics, we will be issuing a press release, as well as writing something
more extensive for *Cryonics* magazine and elsewhere. If you have thoughts
on Hal and his life and work, please send them to me.



Hal, I know I speak for many when I say that I look forward to speaking to
you again sometime in the future and to throwing a party in honor of your
revival.



--Max

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Max More, PhD
Strategic Philosopher
Co-editor, *The Transhumanist Reader*
http://www.amazon.com/Transhumanist-Reader-Contemporary-Technology-Philosophy/dp/1118334310/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372225570&sr=1-1&keywords=the+transhumanist+reader
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vip
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This all seems very illuminati like with how they are having secret meeting without anyone knowing.

Well wouldn't you if you had created a monster wanted to keep it private and anonymous and have people wondering after I sure as hell would want to keep my privacy until it was much bigger and mainstream. Even if was fully mainstream lot of people want to ask so many questions and in a way am sure wants to remain but again only time will tell if will announce where he is what he or she is doing and no doubt satoshi is reading among bitcointalk somewhere. Hello to you Miss or Sir Tongue

I think that this secrecy thingy runs much deeper: http://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.2Q99/3838.html (note the URL, and read more here: http://extropians.weidai.com/)

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Nextropians.

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Dear list members,

Call me an anonymous coward, a 'deepthroat', a Judas. If and when you're done calling me names, I hope you hear what I have to say.

I am one of the trusted, one of the select, one of the chosen. Chosen you say? Yes, believe it or not there very much is an in-crowd within the transhumanist community. If you hang out long enough you may figure out who is part of the in-crowd and who is is not. For the remainder of the post, lets just call them the 'Nextropians'.

This elite network of Nextropians have their own exclusive and very secret list. No, it is not the extropians-select or the Polymath lists. How do you join this secret society? You don't, you're invited. It helps if you are already signed up for cryonic suspension. To them, that financial commitment is a sign you take seriously your extropic goals.

Don't beleive me? Ask Dr. Ralph Merkle, if there is not a secret society of cryonicists. He may say 'no', but I can assure you otherwise.

So what is the point of my post? Ask yourself, why the secrecy in the first place? Doesn't the knowledge that their are some extremely smart people conducting their most extropic affairs in secret give you the warm fuzzies? What is their motivation? Are they tired of all the mundanes encroaching on their territory? Are they afraid of the mortals shutting them down? Are they afraid of the government opressing their strong drive for freedom?

Although I have not revealed the exact identity of the group or their virtual wearabouts, I must make public their existence.

**As we approach the future at ever faster speeds, I believe it is the existence of such secrecy that fosters increasingly dangerous memes - those of 'Elitism', 'Superiority' and 'Exclusivity'. Can we say 'Ubergoo'?!

Spread the Knowledge!

Anonymous Coward out.
legendary
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This all seems very illuminati like with how they are having secret meeting without anyone knowing.

Well wouldn't you if you had created a monster wanted to keep it private and anonymous and have people wondering after I sure as hell would want to keep my privacy until it was much bigger and mainstream. Even if was fully mainstream lot of people want to ask so many questions and in a way am sure wants to remain but again only time will tell if will announce where he is what he or she is doing and no doubt satoshi is reading among bitcointalk somewhere. Hello to you Miss or Sir Tongue
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