Topic: Newbie about BTC lendig (Read 775 times)
After looking more in depth on BTC loaning and collateral and how AM shares work I see the difficulties in the suggestions I posed.. At that amount of BTC I would need to wait until I get into AM shares and build a better foundation. That being said I would still be interested in getting into the BTC market and would still pose my offer for a much smaller amount, maybe 1BTC.. 2 month Loan.. I was looking into exchanges and my best bet looks to be coinbase in which I can link my bank account.. This is still going to be about a week before I get that coin.. I would like to play around a bit with bits today (no pun intended lol)..So I would still like to put up an offer for a single BTC.. with the lump sum offer and interest.. payback being after 1 month.. 0.6BTC and after 2 month 0.6BTC, lump sum 0.2BTC for a total payback of 1.4BTC.. I would still offer the direct deposit in which I link my Bank Account to lenders third party account or other account in which they have access to pull within repayment cycle time frame.
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
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Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
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Well, the bank covers money overdrawn, the lender would receive their money and if I couldn't keep funds in the account then I would owe the bank.. I just don't have AM shares right now unfortunately
I have my overdraft turned off to prevent someone stealing my card details and racking up thousands in spending, I'm sure you can too.
i would advise not to lend money that is irreversible.
if he wants, he won't pay back. simple
if he wants, he won't pay back. simple
Well, the bank covers money overdrawn, the lender would receive their money and if I couldn't keep funds in the account then I would owe the bank.. I just don't have AM shares right now unfortunately
What if you fail to keep funds in that account, the payments would bounce and you could just close the account. If I was a lender I wouldn't be happy with that arrangement. You should look into other means to make money and then buy the amount of BTC you need. For example, sell some items you don't need on eBay. The time frame you need the money in also won't happen, the loan you're asking for is a unrealistic amount unless you had collateral. If I was you just understand what you're asking for isn't possible and move on.
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. This would be where I would need to get creative to figure out some type of collateral / third party / something to give investor peace of mind.
for deadweasel.. I see how you say nothing could be less profitable but this is why I offer the lump sum and current rate garunteed minumum repay
The 'garuntee' I refer to is payback at current rate of BTC price.. so if BTC price goes down I pay to current rate but if BTC goes up I ay to that BTC rate.. as for collateral.. how much ASICMiner share etc for 10btc... also I would over increase interest/ late charge if I were late on any months payment
That's worthless. Most people I know will lend BTC for BTC (if BTC goes up/down the same amount of BTC is repaid) if it was backed by something. An example share collateral I would do is: 100 ASICMiner shares are transferred to me, and I transfer around 90BTC to you. I reserve the means of liquidating the shares if the mean share/BTC falls to around 0.95 each unless the difference is repaid to me within 24hours. If you default I possess the shares. It's that easy - most legit lenders agree to such arrangements. If the lender does not have an equivalent collateral he probably shouldn't be getting a loan anyway as he most probably won't have the means to repay it.
I see what you mean, but the loan I need is only 10BTC , so are there any other suggestions of collateral? I mean, I would be willing to figure out even some means to tie my Bank Account number + Routing to something for lenders peace of mind, knowing that if it is not repayed by end of payment cycle they have means for direct pulling.. now I would need a trusted lender for that and ifpullling starts appening early or of a greater amount then specified I would take legal action but otherwise with trusted lender account could be set up to directly pull fund if not payed by payment cycle.. and then after full repay removing direct deposit
Hmm ... your suggestion would be quite troublesome for this amount, not to mention that the lawyer fees to set this up (I assume) will blow the loan away.
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. This would be where I would need to get creative to figure out some type of collateral / third party / something to give investor peace of mind.
for deadweasel.. I see how you say nothing could be less profitable but this is why I offer the lump sum and current rate garunteed minumum repay
The 'garuntee' I refer to is payback at current rate of BTC price.. so if BTC price goes down I pay to current rate but if BTC goes up I ay to that BTC rate.. as for collateral.. how much ASICMiner share etc for 10btc... also I would over increase interest/ late charge if I were late on any months payment
That's worthless. Most people I know will lend BTC for BTC (if BTC goes up/down the same amount of BTC is repaid) if it was backed by something. An example share collateral I would do is: 100 ASICMiner shares are transferred to me, and I transfer around 90BTC to you. I reserve the means of liquidating the shares if the mean share/BTC falls to around 0.95 each unless the difference is repaid to me within 24hours. If you default I possess the shares. It's that easy - most legit lenders agree to such arrangements. If the lender does not have an equivalent collateral he probably shouldn't be getting a loan anyway as he most probably won't have the means to repay it.
I see what you mean, but the loan I need is only 10BTC , so are there any other suggestions of collateral? I mean, I would be willing to figure out even some means to tie my Bank Account number + Routing to something for lenders peace of mind, knowing that if it is not repayed by end of payment cycle they have means for direct pulling.. now I would need a trusted lender for that and ifpullling starts appening early or of a greater amount then specified I would take legal action but otherwise with trusted lender account could be set up to directly pull fund if not payed by payment cycle.. and then after full repay removing direct deposit
Try to listing at the btcjam.com, hope you will find someone who interesting for the invesment.
Good luck ...
Good luck ...
By the way, I absolutely do not recommend investing on BTCJam unless you're experienced and willing to soak up the losses. I've never loaned on there before, but based on multiple reviews many 'loaning' offers there turn out to be scams.
Try to listing at the btcjam.com, hope you will find someone who interesting for the invesment.
Good luck ...
Good luck ...
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. This would be where I would need to get creative to figure out some type of collateral / third party / something to give investor peace of mind.
for deadweasel.. I see how you say nothing could be less profitable but this is why I offer the lump sum and current rate garunteed minumum repay
The 'garuntee' I refer to is payback at current rate of BTC price.. so if BTC price goes down I pay to current rate but if BTC goes up I ay to that BTC rate.. as for collateral.. how much ASICMiner share etc for 10btc... also I would over increase interest/ late charge if I were late on any months payment
That's worthless. Most people I know will lend BTC for BTC (if BTC goes up/down the same amount of BTC is repaid) if it was backed by something. An example share collateral I would do is: 100 ASICMiner shares are transferred to me, and I transfer around 90BTC to you. I reserve the means of liquidating the shares if the mean share/BTC falls to around 0.95 each unless the difference is repaid to me within 24hours. If you default I possess the shares. It's that easy - most legit lenders agree to such arrangements. If the lender does not have an equivalent collateral he probably shouldn't be getting a loan anyway as he most probably won't have the means to repay it.
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. This would be where I would need to get creative to figure out some type of collateral / third party / something to give investor peace of mind.
for deadweasel.. I see how you say nothing could be less profitable but this is why I offer the lump sum and current rate garunteed minumum repay
The 'garuntee' I refer to is payback at current rate of BTC price.. so if BTC price goes down I pay to current rate but if BTC goes up I ay to that BTC rate.. as for collateral.. how much ASICMiner share etc for 10btc... also I would over increase interest/ late charge if I were late on any months payment
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. This would be where I would need to get creative to figure out some type of collateral / third party / something to give investor peace of mind.
for deadweasel.. I see how you say nothing could be less profitable but this is why I offer the lump sum and current rate garunteed minumum repay
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. This would be where I would need to get creative to figure out some type of collateral / third party / something to give investor peace of mind.
for deadweasel.. I see how you say nothing could be less profitable but this is why I offer the lump sum and current rate garunteed minumum repay
For reference, a ~BTC10 equivalent personal loan from my bank for 12 months would be charged at 29.9% APR, and bear in mind they know where I live, how much I earn and (more importantly for them) they have the legal resources to chase up their repayments.
10% less for a more risky venture doesn't sound very appealing.
10% less for a more risky venture doesn't sound very appealing.
I see that my original post has been a bit confusing.. I hope my later post makes more sense as far as interest ate and additional charges fr it bein a BTC loan..
As for security measures, all my information will be given, along with any creative way to maintain security even after loan cycle.. in other words loop hole to the fact a regular bank loan would have legal resources to chase up their repaymets.. a loop hole in which I would provide collateral means to provide resources for investor to chase up investment IF I were not able to pay.. For peace of mind
For reference, a ~BTC10 equivalent personal loan from my bank for 12 months would be charged at 29.9% APR, and bear in mind they know where I live, how much I earn and (more importantly for them) they have the legal resources to chase up their repayments.
10% less for a more risky venture doesn't sound very appealing.
10% less for a more risky venture doesn't sound very appealing.
I see that my original post has been a bit confusing.. I hope my later post makes more sense as far as interest ate and additional charges fr it bein a BTC loan..
As for security measures, all my information will be given, along with any creative way to maintain security even after loan cycle.. in other words loop hole to the fact a regular bank loan would have legal resources to chase up their repaymets.. a loop hole in which I would provide collateral means to provide resources for investor to chase up investment IF I were not able to pay.. For peace of mind
Just give your bank a call, they love to throw Credit Cards at people. It's how they make money, they rely on people to default on payments and rack up payments but if your positive about it being successful then you shouldn't have any problems paying it back. You have to treat a lender as if they are a bank lending to you anyway so you should have a problem with a Credit Card.
For reference, a ~BTC10 equivalent personal loan from my bank for 12 months would be charged at 29.9% APR, and bear in mind they know where I live, how much I earn and (more importantly for them) they have the legal resources to chase up their repayments.
10% less for a more risky venture doesn't sound very appealing.
10% less for a more risky venture doesn't sound very appealing.
I see that my original post has been a bit confusing.. I hope my later post makes more sense as far as interest ate and additional charges fr it bein a BTC loan..
As for security measures, all my information will be given, along with any creative way to maintain security even after loan cycle.. in other words loop hole to the fact a regular bank loan would have legal resources to chase up their repaymets.. a loop hole in which I would provide collateral means to provide resources for investor to chase up investment IF I were not able to pay.. For peace of mind
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
You're doing it wrong. Nothing could be less profitable than lending BTC.
Do you have a bank account? Get a credit card through them... it doesn't take that long.
Well I meant 19% a month.. but I do understand how unlikely it is I will recieve a loan.. It is just that CC/Bank loans will take too long for me to recieve and are tough for me to get, I have no credit card open for cash advance and loan will take too long. I would need within the next few days and since I am now very into the BTC economy I figured it my best option. I have even opened an account on BTCjam however I am a brand new user so it is unlikely I will get funding off the bat and if so itd take too long. So I figured those with big BTC must be around on here to invest.. The other benefit I would provide would be a garuntee minumum of the dollar amount of 10 btc at current rate, if rate lowers over the 12 months I will still pay to current rate. However if rate rises I will still pay to 10 btc minumum plus 19% a month.. Which means giving loan now will not take away from investment of holding btc. Another offer would be a 400 dollar lump sum at end of payment cycle or 150 lump sum at beginning and 150 lump sum at end of repayment cycle.. Reason being is due to the fact that this is the btc market not a bank loan or CC.. The expenses over the course of 12 months are no problem for me to pay, I just need an investor with 10 BTC for within the next couple days
How would the investor make you pay up if you just ignore him? It's not like the banks who can destroy your credit ratings or repossess your stuff. Jump to: