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Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 04:24:18 PM

So I'm finding this about as simple as trying to program a monkey-driven rocket trip to Pluto.

Trying to get bitcoin today.

Went the paypal route to VirWox, put in a transaction that supposedly went through.

Downloaded Armory wallet.

Then had to download bitcoin, since I got a message directing me to do that.

Nothing in the Armory wallet from the paypal transaction though.

So I then try to fire off an interac-transfer through quickbt.com

Again, transaction goes through, but nothing in Armory wallet.

Armory is giving me this message "Downloading via Armory CDN", and a torrent rate, along with "7 hours" (was 8 earlier).

Can someone please advise me as to what is going on, and also if there is any possibility of actually getting some bitcoin today, please advise on that method as well.

Thank you.

I see you are a newbie, yes, you should not start with armory, because you need to download the blockchain and its hard for newbies.

Try electrum, and import your wallet there. You will see your money there instantly, electrum is a lightweight client, no download needed.

https://electrum.org/#download

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i suggest changing your wallet

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 18, 2015, 12:47:57 AM

Quote from: mark coins on October 18, 2015, 12:36:46 AM

Quote from: pjsonowal on October 18, 2015, 12:28:13 AM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 04:24:18 PM

So I'm finding this about as simple as trying to program a monkey-driven rocket trip to Pluto.

Trying to get bitcoin today.

Went the paypal route to VirWox, put in a transaction that supposedly went through.

Downloaded Armory wallet.

Then had to download bitcoin, since I got a message directing me to do that.

Nothing in the Armory wallet from the paypal transaction though.

So I then try to fire off an interac-transfer through quickbt.com

Again, transaction goes through, but nothing in Armory wallet.

Armory is giving me this message "Downloading via Armory CDN", and a torrent rate, along with "7 hours" (was 8 earlier).

Can someone please advise me as to what is going on, and also if there is any possibility of actually getting some bitcoin today, please advise on that method as well.

Thank you.

Dude when you download a wallet software ...they always download all the transactions from starting blocks to blocks now....so u have to wait to get the blocks downloaded

AFAIK only bitcoincore downloads the whole blockchain, other wallet software doesnt

Its not the only full verification wallet. Armory also is full verification, according to bitcoin.org. Tho most others are indeed SPV- Simplified Payment Verification.

If you want one that downloads quick get a lightweight wallet. When you say It's not making it have you looked at the address on a site like blockchain?

I would suggest looking there and seeing if transaction made it to address.

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Quote from: mark coins on October 18, 2015, 12:36:46 AM

Quote from: pjsonowal on October 18, 2015, 12:28:13 AM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 04:24:18 PM

So I'm finding this about as simple as trying to program a monkey-driven rocket trip to Pluto.

Trying to get bitcoin today.

Went the paypal route to VirWox, put in a transaction that supposedly went through.

Downloaded Armory wallet.

Then had to download bitcoin, since I got a message directing me to do that.

Nothing in the Armory wallet from the paypal transaction though.

So I then try to fire off an interac-transfer through quickbt.com

Again, transaction goes through, but nothing in Armory wallet.

Armory is giving me this message "Downloading via Armory CDN", and a torrent rate, along with "7 hours" (was 8 earlier).

Can someone please advise me as to what is going on, and also if there is any possibility of actually getting some bitcoin today, please advise on that method as well.

Thank you.

Dude when you download a wallet software ...they always download all the transactions from starting blocks to blocks now....so u have to wait to get the blocks downloaded

AFAIK only bitcoincore downloads the whole blockchain, other wallet software doesnt

Its not the only full verification wallet. Armory also is full verification, according to bitcoin.org. Tho most others are indeed SPV- Simplified Payment Verification.

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Quote from: pjsonowal on October 18, 2015, 12:28:13 AM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 04:24:18 PM

So I'm finding this about as simple as trying to program a monkey-driven rocket trip to Pluto.

Trying to get bitcoin today.

Went the paypal route to VirWox, put in a transaction that supposedly went through.

Downloaded Armory wallet.

Then had to download bitcoin, since I got a message directing me to do that.

Nothing in the Armory wallet from the paypal transaction though.

So I then try to fire off an interac-transfer through quickbt.com

Again, transaction goes through, but nothing in Armory wallet.

Armory is giving me this message "Downloading via Armory CDN", and a torrent rate, along with "7 hours" (was 8 earlier).

Can someone please advise me as to what is going on, and also if there is any possibility of actually getting some bitcoin today, please advise on that method as well.

Thank you.

Dude when you download a wallet software ...they always download all the transactions from starting blocks to blocks now....so u have to wait to get the blocks downloaded

AFAIK only bitcoincore downloads the whole blockchain, other wallet software doesnt

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Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 04:24:18 PM

So I'm finding this about as simple as trying to program a monkey-driven rocket trip to Pluto.

Trying to get bitcoin today.

Went the paypal route to VirWox, put in a transaction that supposedly went through.

Downloaded Armory wallet.

Then had to download bitcoin, since I got a message directing me to do that.

Nothing in the Armory wallet from the paypal transaction though.

So I then try to fire off an interac-transfer through quickbt.com

Again, transaction goes through, but nothing in Armory wallet.

Armory is giving me this message "Downloading via Armory CDN", and a torrent rate, along with "7 hours" (was 8 earlier).

Can someone please advise me as to what is going on, and also if there is any possibility of actually getting some bitcoin today, please advise on that method as well.

Thank you.

Dude when you download a wallet software ...they always download all the transactions from starting blocks to blocks now....so u have to wait to get the blocks downloaded

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 17, 2015, 05:45:51 PM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 17, 2015, 04:04:49 PM

Am using quickbit with Multibit HD to do interac to bitcoin.

Did a <0.25B transaction yesterday from quickbt.com that took about one minute to convert to come through.

Today I did a 0.25B transaction (apparently the max) that, after three + hours, is still "receiving."

Is this normal for interac transactions? I thought they were supposed to be fairly speedy.

Many quick BTC purchase services are prone to having transaction manually approved or the wallet manually refilled. If you want reliable BTC purchase at little fee, you're going to have to deal with a reliable exchange.

I never heard of quickbt before, the only reliable quick BTC purchase service i used was Circle and i don't use it anymore because of the fees.

Many thanks.

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Quote from: Stallionforce on October 17, 2015, 04:04:49 PM

Am using quickbit with Multibit HD to do interac to bitcoin.

Did a <0.25B transaction yesterday from quickbt.com that took about one minute to convert to come through.

Today I did a 0.25B transaction (apparently the max) that, after three + hours, is still "receiving."

Is this normal for interac transactions? I thought they were supposed to be fairly speedy.

Many quick BTC purchase services are prone to having transaction manually approved or the wallet manually refilled. If you want reliable BTC purchase at little fee, you're going to have to deal with a reliable exchange.

I never heard of quickbt before, the only reliable quick BTC purchase service i used was Circle and i don't use it anymore because of the fees.

Stallionforce

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Am using quickbit with Multibit HD to do interac to bitcoin.

Did a <0.25B transaction yesterday from quickbt.com that took about one minute to convert to come through.

Today I did a 0.25B transaction (apparently the max) that, after three + hours, is still "receiving."

Is this normal for interac transactions? I thought they were supposed to be fairly speedy.

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Quote from: Stallionforce on October 16, 2015, 02:12:51 AM

Got it working eventually through both paypal and interac.

Unreal -- definitely a currency for eggheads. I feel that's the reason it isn't more universally popular.

that's why i recommend for new user to download core directly and use that at first, you don't need armory or other spv at first, you can play with them later

i know there is the boring synching wait, but you can speed it up with a good ssd, everyone has oen nowaday

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Got it working eventually through both paypal and interac.

Unreal -- definitely a currency for eggheads. I feel that's the reason it isn't more universally popular.

Stallionforce

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thanks, miraculously I think I had it right.

I'm going to go with the SPV wallet and see if I can get some bitcoin more quickly.

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You could always just call support and have them fix it for you.

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Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 10:14:55 PM

Thanks, appreciate it.

I did not enter receiving addresses in my address book. (What are those anyway?)

Does that mean I will not be able to get the bitcoin after all this?

If I download SPV wallet, will I be able to get some bitcoin tonight? tomorrow?

Thanks for your patience.

I hadn't realized you went in and bought BTC with 0 idea of how it work, even conceptually.

Should read the 101 stuff on bitcoin.org;
https://bitcoin.org/en/how-it-works

In a nutshell, the blockchain is a super ledger that merely say which address control X bitcoin. The address looking like this; 1Bd5wrFxHYRkk4UCFttcPNMYzqJnQKfXUE

Whoever has the secret privkey to this address can use any BTC sent to this address.

When you have a wallet, your wallet doesn't keep BTC it hold the private key, that should remain hidden and for each private key it will give you a public address.

Wherever you bought BTC, what you do is withdraw money from there and input an address you generated with your wallet. Then the wallet will let you send BTC from that address to wherever you want and so forth.

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Thanks, appreciate it.

I did not enter receiving addresses in my address book. (What are those anyway?)

Does that mean I will not be able to get the bitcoin after all this?

If I download SPV wallet, will I be able to get some bitcoin tonight? tomorrow?

Thanks for your patience.

VirosaGITS

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Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 07:51:33 PM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 15, 2015, 06:59:41 PM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 05:01:56 PM

Thanks, I am in Canada too -- do you use quickbt.com?

No i used to use Bylls and do payments to my credit cards to "cash out" BTC when needed. Now i use Coinbase as they have a bit better exchange rate and the fee is 1%+1$ to sell and 1%+0.7$ to buy.

Its also much faster.

If you don't mind me asking, how much time does it take between sending the interac transfer and receiving the bitcoin to spend?

Its supposed to be instant with Interact. A few days with bank transfer.

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 10:08:23 PM

Now the friggin program is entering a second phase, "Synchronizing with Network." Then apparently there are two more phases, "Build Databases" and "Scan Transaction History".

That first phase took about 8 hours. Does anyone have an idea of how long these three other phases will take?

Depending on your computer speed, it can be overnight or days. That is why a SPV wallet is highly recommended for daily usage. Takes a few minutes to sync fully from scratch.

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Now the friggin program is entering a second phase, "Synchronizing with Network." Then apparently there are two more phases, "Build Databases" and "Scan Transaction History".

That first phase took about 8 hours. Does anyone have an idea of how long these three other phases will take?

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 15, 2015, 04:32:50 PM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 04:24:18 PM

So I'm finding this about as simple as trying to program a monkey-driven rocket trip to Pluto.

Trying to get bitcoin today.

Went the paypal route to VirWox, put in a transaction that supposedly went through.

Downloaded Armory wallet.

Then had to download bitcoin, since I got a message directing me to do that.

Nothing in the Armory wallet from the paypal transaction though.

So I then try to fire off an interac-transfer through quickbt.com

Again, transaction goes through, but nothing in Armory wallet.

Armory is giving me this message "Downloading via Armory CDN", and a torrent rate, along with "7 hours" (was 8 earlier).

Can someone please advise me as to what is going on, and also if there is any possibility of actually getting some bitcoin today, please advise on that method as well.

Thank you.

Well Armory is a full validation wallet as far as i know, which means you need to download the whole blockchain first if its labeled correctly.

The blockchain size is massive;
https://blockchain.info/charts/blocks-size

If you want a quick sync wallet, thats not one. You'll want a SPV wallet like Multibit HD or GreenAddress if you want 2FA. Some recommend Electrum but i'm not familiar with that one.

I recommend the regular btc client. You can't get much safer than that.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 15, 2015, 06:59:41 PM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 05:01:56 PM

Thanks, I am in Canada too -- do you use quickbt.com?

No i used to use Bylls and do payments to my credit cards to "cash out" BTC when needed. Now i use Coinbase as they have a bit better exchange rate and the fee is 1%+1$ to sell and 1%+0.7$ to buy.

Its also much faster.

If you don't mind me asking, how much time does it take between sending the interac transfer and receiving the bitcoin to spend?

Stallionforce

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 15, 2015, 06:59:41 PM

Quote from: Stallionforce on October 15, 2015, 05:01:56 PM

Thanks, I am in Canada too -- do you use quickbt.com?

No i used to use Bylls and do payments to my credit cards to "cash out" BTC when needed. Now i use Coinbase as they have a bit better exchange rate and the fee is 1%+1$ to sell and 1%+0.7$ to buy.

Its also much faster.

Perfect, thanks

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